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urzung khan
post Aug 31 2009, 03:53 AM
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Khawar Saab

In Rarest of Rares, can you also upload some Jaddanbai. I already have Lagat Karejwaa Mein Chot. Anything else would be much appreciated...

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Here is your request of jaddan Bai at 128 kbps duration = 3.23....khawar


khana e dil se numaayaaN hai bayaabaaN hona

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Please have a look at the spectrum/waveform of this song
and comment.
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post Aug 31 2009, 06:13 AM
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Both these recordings of Jaddan Bai are from Columbia VE 1701 record.

As per the record, these are Thumris in Raag Durga.
The problem in correctly identifying the voices
of such old records is that generally the uploads are very heavily filtered
and choked with tempered tempo. They give an entirely different impression
when you compare the voice with the original records.






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post Aug 31 2009, 03:55 PM
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Can any body kindly upload songs from film Sawan aaya re 1947 again here....khawar



Khawar Saheb, here is the requested full album of Sawan Aaya Re (1949)

Movie: Sawan Aaya Re (1949)
Music: Khemchand Prakash
Lyrics: Bharat Vyas, Arzoo Lucknawi, Gulshan Jalalabadi & Rammurti Chaturvedi

All tracks are in MP3--128 kbps and track duration is provided in the track listing:

01-3.20-Aya aya re sawan-Amir Bai-Lyrics: Rammurti chaturvedi
02-3.35-Aye dil na mujhe yaad dila-Mohd. Rafi & Shamshad Begum-Lyrics: Bharat Vyas
03-2.24-Baghon meinh aule haule-Shamshad Begum-Lyrics: Bharat Vyas
04-2.52-Khushi ki aas rahi-Khan Mastana-Lyrics: Arzu Lackhnawi
05-3.29-Main to chanda si gori-Shamshad Begum-Lyrics: Gulshan Jalalabadi
06-3.06-Nahin fariyad karte ham-Shamshad Begum-Lyrics: Bharat Vyas
07-3.23-Pahne peeli rang sari-Amir Bai-Lyrics: Rammurti Chaturvedi


That should be Lalita Deulkar and chorus.



Yes Mahesh Bhai as per Earthmusic.net its Lalita Deolkar but I have heard the song again I feel its Amir Bai Karnataki. I will check with Dr. Mahesh Bhai as he has also given the singer to be Amir Bai when uploaded the album.

Mohd. M.

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post Aug 31 2009, 05:42 PM
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Mohd Bhai I have not downloaded the song but I heard the song available with
me from the 78 rpm record and then posted my views.

I have not heard the movie version for quite a bit of time. May be, the movie
version was sung by Amirbai. Is that a movie version uploaded by you? In
such a case, records are to be kept straight after hearing the movie version.

How are the things at your end?

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Both these recordings of Jaddan Bai are from Columbia VE 1701 record.

As per the record, these are Thumris in Raag Durga.
The problem in correctly identifying the voices
of such old records is that generally the uploads are very heavily filtered
and choked with tempered tempo. They give an entirely different impression
when you compare the voice with the original records.


Did you view the waveform ?
Forget everything else.. atleast for the time being.
I am interested to know how could the audio wave
be shifted above or below the Zero Crossing
Point. Here the audio is mostly above the ZC resultng
in some compression at the top.



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post Sep 1 2009, 03:17 AM
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Saw it. It happens when you try to increase the lower frequencies or bass
more than the permissible limits. This is the reason that in the uploaded
song you hear an excessive humming.

The record is of early 30s and hence recorded at lower bias, as prevalent at that time
due to lack of advanced technology. Any increase in the bias, as is the instant
case, would give humming.

Corrected it and now download and listen.

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Saw it. It happens when you try to increase the lower frequencies or bass
more than the permissible limits. This is the reason that in the uploaded
song you hear an excessive humming.

The record is of early 30s and hence recorded at lower bias, as prevalent at that time
due to lack of advanced technology. Any increase in the bias, as is the instant
case, would give humming.

Corrected it and now download and listen.


Well done.
By the way... it is a ghazal and not a Thumri. Record label
is in error.
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post Sep 1 2009, 09:50 AM
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Mohd Bhai I have not downloaded the song but I heard the song available with
me from the 78 rpm record and then posted my views.

I have not heard the movie version for quite a bit of time. May be, the movie
version was sung by Amirbai. Is that a movie version uploaded by you? In
such a case, records are to be kept straight after hearing the movie version.

How are the things at your end?

regards


Yes Mahesh Bhai the one I have uploaded is movie version and I have not heard the record version.

When you get time just post the clip of the record version and I am sure there should be 2 different singer versions recorded for 78rpm and movie.

Mohd. M.
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Here are the remainng 2 tracks of the movie:

Movie: Sawan Aaya Re (1949)
Music: Khemchand Prakash
Lyrics: Bharat Vyas, Arzoo Lucknawi, Gulshan Jalalabadi & Rammurti Chaturvedi

All tracks are in MP3--128 kbps and track duration is provided in the track listing:

08-2.27-Thandi thandi raat mein-Shamshad Begum-Lyrics: Bharat Vyas
09-2.00-Title Music by Khemchand Prakash

Thanks a lot...got them ...khawar
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Here are the remainng 2 tracks of the movie:

Movie: Sawan Aaya Re (1949)
Music: Khemchand Prakash
Lyrics: Bharat Vyas, Arzoo Lucknawi, Gulshan Jalalabadi & Rammurti Chaturvedi

All tracks are in MP3--128 kbps and track duration is provided in the track listing:

08-2.27-Thandi thandi raat mein-Shamshad Begum-Lyrics: Bharat Vyas
09-2.00-Title Music by Khemchand Prakash

Thanks a lot...got them ...khawar



You are welcome Khawar Saheb.


I am uploading a radio version, if any body has record version please upload here.

Film: AMAR PREM (1948)
Singers: Mohammed Rafi & Rajkumari
Song title: Awo chale manwa more
Music: Dutta Thakkar
Lyrics: ?
File: MP3-128 kbps-3.13 mins
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QUOTE(mirsa @ Sep 1 2009, 10:38 AM) *

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QUOTE(mirsa @ Aug 30 2009, 03:31 PM) *

Here are the remainng 2 tracks of the movie:

Movie: Sawan Aaya Re (1949)
Music: Khemchand Prakash
Lyrics: Bharat Vyas, Arzoo Lucknawi, Gulshan Jalalabadi & Rammurti Chaturvedi

All tracks are in MP3--128 kbps and track duration is provided in the track listing:

08-2.27-Thandi thandi raat mein-Shamshad Begum-Lyrics: Bharat Vyas
09-2.00-Title Music by Khemchand Prakash

Thanks a lot...got them ...khawar



You are welcome Khawar Saheb.


I am uploading a radio version, if any body has record version please upload here.

Film: AMAR PREM (1948)
Singers: Mohammed Rafi & Rajkumari
Song title: Awo chale manwa more
Music: Dutta Thakkar
Lyrics: ?
File: MP3-128 kbps-3.13 mins

I will check this song but I think I do not have it. Here is another duet by same singers from film Shahkaar-1947. Music by my favourite composer K Dutta who had honour of first lata-Noor jahan film Bari maa...Duration = 3.21 min at 128 kbps.....khawar
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AK Durrani Peshawari in Sunhera Sansaar at 128 kbps Duration = 3.07 min. Can you guess transportation implied in the song folks? khawar
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A mannadey gem at 128 kbps, duration is = 3.03 min...khawar
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A punjabi rare by Zeenat begum at 128 kbps, duration = 2.47 min...khawar
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QUOTE(khawar Sohail @ Sep 1 2009, 08:30 PM) *

AK Durrani Peshawari in Sunhera Sansaar at 128 kbps Duration = 3.07 min. Can you guess transportation implied in the song folks? khawar

Thanks (AGAIN!!!) Khawar Saab biggrin.gif

I'll venture a guess and say a Train.....this 1936 song was composed by KC Dey.....


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