Geeta Dutt Sings For Or With Hemant Kumar, songs sung for or with Hemant Kumar by Geeta Dutt Options

[r&d]

simple logic would help in this case instead of relying on 50 year old gossip rumors.

HMV is the copyright in this case. HK is just contract employee.
He didn't get any royalty payment from it. Movie producer own the movies copyright.
So HK cannot be sued for copyright infringement.
Furthermore any infringement has to go to court litigation.
Either money has to be exchanged or the offending material has to be
withdrawn from the market.
Unless that can be provided as proof instead of someone's memory
of reading gossip magazine than it has to be taken with grain of salt.

[simplefable]

Are you aware of a song called "Oh oh oh oh baby" from the same film sung by Geeta ji and Hemantda ?
This song got Hemantda in trouble due to copy rights issues...
Cheers
Parag

Parag-bhai,

Could you kindly elaborate what sort of trouble related to copyright issues HK got into because of the 'oh baby' song? Is this trouble documented anywhere (magazine article, interview etc)? I know that the song's mukhda is inspired by 'O bernadine' but, I hadn't heard of this 'trouble with copyright issue' thing earlier.

-Prithvi

Parag
I don't have this song and would like to know about this controversy too.
Do provide the details.
Regards
Hildebrand

Prithvi, HB

I also dont know the exact details but I just read somewhere on net (or in some magazine years ago) that Hemantda was in some kind of trouble over the copyright issue of this song "Oh oh oh oh baby" from Police.

Thanks HB for the song from Police..very melodious number.
And mahesh..thanks for the song Oh baby...from Police. Interesting to read about the controversy regarding copy right. I learnt from another site about so many songs which were replicas of some western songs...

"Bad artists copy. Great artists steal."
-- Pablo Picasso

American's didn't complain about copyright when they were stealing from
Brits. and When Brits were stealing from Indians. For example
Parcheesi is an American adaptation of the Indian Cross and Circle game Pachisi.
Cotton Gin was rework of device used in India for hundreds of year.
I can give more example if you don't know.

R&D..I never meant what i said in a derogatory way...After all Americans doesnt have anything of thier own..not even a Culture. So please let us not compare with them.

IMO, none of these contain an iota of truth and serious music lovers better refrain from repeating them while associating singers' names.
Finally, Police('57) was not the first instance nor the last instance, when Hemant looked at another composer's tune for inspiration - and this is provable.

-Prithvi

simple logic would help in this case instead of relying on 50 year old gossip rumors.

HMV is the copyright in this case. HK is just contract employee.
He didn't get any royalty payment from it. Movie producer own the movies copyright.
So HK cannot be sued for copyright infringement.
Furthermore any infringement has to go to court litigation.
Either money has to be exchanged or the offending material has to be
withdrawn from the market.
Unless that can be provided as proof instead of someone's memory
of reading gossip magazine than it has to be taken with grain of salt.

The important factor is to know whether a song has its roots in western song..and nothing else. Actually, We do know that every MD has taken inspiration from one or more western songs, which in no way belittle the Legendary Composers of that time. With the kind of work load and the tastes of Producers and Heroes coming in their way, a composer has a tough scene to manage.

I got the information of the songs from here...

http://www.itwofs.com/hindi-others.html

which is a reputed site. You can see the english songs marked along the Hindi ones..and can download them..and listen to them . Legalities are not the concern here. And given today's scenario, where Rajesh Roshan shelled out 2 Crores...to stop a case being filed against the music of his film..and goes to press with that...We have come a long way in advertising about Films. I think the old timers would have settled it quite silently ..and in dignity.

[hildebrand]

Here is List 1 excluding song that I requested above.



Jab Se Mile Tose Ankhiyan - Hemant Kumar & Geeta Dutt - Amanat (1955) - Salil Chowdhury - Shailendra
Jai Jagdish Hare - Hemant Kumar & Geeta Roy - Anandmath (1952) - Hemant Kumar - Jayadeva
Ye Mast Nazar - Hemant Kumar & Geeta Dutt - Bandi (1957) - Hemant Kumar - Prem Dhawan
Mujhko Tum Jo Miley - Hemant Kumar & Geeta Dutt - Detective (1958) - Mukal Roy - Shailendra
Gumsum Sa Yeh Jahan - Hemant Kumar & Geeta Dutt - Duniya Jhukti Hai (1960) - Hemant Kumar - Rajinder Krishan
Aaja Zara Mere Dil Ke Sahare Dilruba .. Tere Liye Mere Dil Mein - Hemant Kumar & Geeta Dutt - Ek Jhalak (1957) - Hemant Kumar - S. H. Bihari
Tum Aur Hum - Hemant Kumar & Geeta Dutt - Fashion (1957) - Hemant Kumar - Bharat Vyas
Mili Jo Tumse Nazar O Sajna - Hemant Kumar & Geeta Dutt - Heer (1956) - Anil Biswas - Majrooh Sultanpuri
Tuje Doon Main Kya Yeh Tu Hi Bata - Geeta Dutt & Hemant Kumar - Insaaf Kahan Hai (1958 - unreleased) - Hemant Kumar - Hairat Sitapuri
Dil Ki Dilli De Dali - Geeta Dutt & Hemant Kumar - Laalten (1956) - Hemant Kumar - Kaif Irfani
Dil Ki Umange Hai Jawan - Geeta Dutt, Hemant Kumar & Pran - Munimji (1955) - S. D. Burman - Sahir
Chale Hum Kahan - Hemant Kumar & Geeta Dutt - Police (1958) - Hemant Kumar - Majrooh Sultanpuri
Chup Ja Hamare Dil Mein - Hemant Kumar & Geeta Dutt - Police (1958) - Hemant Kumar - Majrooh Sultanpuri
O Baby - Hemant Kumar & Geeta Dutt - Police (1958) - Hemant Kumar - Majrooh Sultanpuri
Sau Baras Par Pritam Aaye Ghar - Hemant Kumar & Geeta Dutt - Rami Dhoban (1953) - Hiren Bose - Pt. Ram Murti
Yeh Mausam Yeh Hawa .. Nighaahein Mila Aur Ik Jaam Le Le - Hemant Kumar & Geeta Dutt - Shole (1953) - Pt. Dhani Ram - Sahir
Do Naina Tumhare Pyare Pyare - Hemant Kumar & Geeta Dutt - Shrimatiji (1952) - S. Mohinder - Raja Mehdi Ali Khan

Thanks for making the list rajnish ji.
Thankyou simplefable for liking the police song.
Lets not get emotional about this copyright issue. Its ok to get inspired as long as you don't rip the full thing.
Many have put a new twist to other songs.
For example some people claim the song from Kagaz Ke Phool - Kehte hain jisse shaadi is inspired from the hit
Doris Day Song - Whatever will be- from the Hitchcock movie The man who knew too much. But on listening I find it
quite different.
And I guess sometimes producers must be demanding inspirations and somewhere you have to say yes.
Regards
Hildebrand

[simplefable]

HB..thankyou for sane words.
My point is that even if they rip, it doesnt matter at all. Just a water drop in the huge, extraordinary contribution of the Maestros.. We love them, no matter what..Personally I wouldnt dare enough nor encourage anyone to point a finger at these Legends..

Just listen to this...






This post has been edited by simplefable: Apr 28 2008, 06:43 PM

[hildebrand]

HB..thankyou for sane words.
My point is that even if they rip, it doesnt matter at all. Just a water drop in the huge, extraordinary contribution of the Maestros.. We love them, no matter what..Personally I wouldnt dare enough nor encourage anyone to point a finger at these Legends..

Just listen to this...

Bands do covers all the time and they get inspired by everybody!
Lets close this discussion now.
Request all to put more songs of Geetaji with hemantda.

Regards
Hildebrand

[hildebrand]

http://www.hamaraforums.com/index.php?show...mp;#entry484940
has the song YE MAUSAM....NIGAAHEN MILAA from shole.
you can get it there.
YEAR=1953

FILM=SHOLE

SONG=YE MAUSAM....NIGAAHEN MILAA

LYRICIST=SAHIR

MUSIC=DHANI RAM

SINGERS=GEETA DUTT-HEMANT-SAATHI

RATE=160KBPS

TIME=04.30

FORMAT=MP3


http://www.hamaraforums.com/index.php?act=...t&id=199442

[parag_sankla]

Requesting the following songs of Geeta ji composed by Hemantda

mini mini chik chik (w/ Geeta) - Police - 1958 - Hemant Kumar - Majrooh
dil par tune kaisa ye khanjar mara re (w/ Geeta) - Police - 1958 - Hemant Kumar - Majrooh
sun le piya dhadke jiya (w/ Geeta) - Police - 1958 - Hemant Kumar - Majrooh
Dil ka tattoo ad jaata hai - Geeta Dutt , Hemant Kumar (Laalten (1956) MD : Hemant Kumar
Lo aaya jaani lalten - Geeta Dutt (Laalten (1956) MD : Hemant Kumar
Maine tujhe pukaara - Geeta Dutt , Hemant Kumar (Laalten (1956) MD : Hemant Kumar

Thanks in advance

Best Regards
Parag

[hildebrand]

Erumji has uploaded the following geeta dutt songs from the Sardar Malik movie Saaranga which has some hemant songs.
Get them here http://www.hamaraforums.com/index.php?show...54684&st=75
1. Pag Pag Par
2. Yug Yug Se
3. Dohe (a collection)
It also has some solos by Geeta if you are interested.
Regards
Hildebrand

This post has been edited by hildebrand: May 11 2008, 07:14 PM

[Yadavagiri5]

Gori Tere Natkhat Naina

Here is a beautiful melody sung by Gita Dutt and Subir Sen. The quality of the recording is not great, but okay.



Song: Gori Tere Natkhat Naina

Singers: Gita, Subir Sen

Movie: Hum Bhi Insan Hain

MD: Hemant Kumar

Year: 1959

Format: mp3

Duration: 3:32

[parag_sankla]

Gori Tere Natkhat Naina

Here is a beautiful melody sung by Gita Dutt and Subir Sen. The quality of the recording is not great, but okay.



Song: Gori Tere Natkhat Naina

Singers: Gita, Subir Sen

Movie: Hum Bhi Insan Hain

MD: Hemant Kumar

Year: 1959

Format: mp3

Duration: 3:32

Hi Yadavagiri5

Thanks for sharing this song. I am kind of surprised to see that composer Hemantda has chosen Subir Sen as the playback singer. Subir Sen (and Dwijen Mukherjee)'s voice is so similar to that of Hemantda's voice.

Regards
Parag

[Yadavagiri5]

Gori Tere Natkhat Naina

Here is a beautiful melody sung by Gita Dutt and Subir Sen. The quality of the recording is not great, but okay.



Song: Gori Tere Natkhat Naina

Singers: Gita, Subir Sen

Movie: Hum Bhi Insan Hain

MD: Hemant Kumar

Year: 1959

Format: mp3

Duration: 3:32

Hi Yadavagiri5

Thanks for sharing this song. I am kind of surprised to see that composer Hemantda has chosen Subir Sen as the playback singer. Subir Sen (and Dwijen Mukherjee)'s voice is so similar to that of Hemantda's voice.

Regards
Parag

Dear Parag,
I agree. Hemant was probably unselfish and willing to encourage other talent.

[umeshg]

Gori Tere Natkhat Naina

Here is a beautiful melody sung by Gita Dutt and Subir Sen. The quality of the recording is not great, but okay.

Thanks for this duet, Yadavagiri5ji.

Requesting some Geetaji fan to u/l a better quality version, if available.

[parag_sankla]

Requesting the following songs of Geeta ji composed by Hemantda

mini mini chik chik (w/ Geeta) - Police - 1958 - Hemant Kumar - Majrooh
dil par tune kaisa ye khanjar mara re (w/ Geeta) - Police - 1958 - Hemant Kumar - Majrooh
sun le piya dhadke jiya (w/ Geeta) - Police - 1958 - Hemant Kumar - Majrooh
Dil ka tattoo ad jaata hai - Geeta Dutt , Hemant Kumar (Laalten (1956) MD : Hemant Kumar
Lo aaya jaani lalten - Geeta Dutt (Laalten (1956) MD : Hemant Kumar
Maine tujhe pukaara - Geeta Dutt , Hemant Kumar (Laalten (1956) MD : Hemant Kumar

Thanks in advance

Best Regards
Parag

This post has been edited by parag_sankla: Jun 8 2008, 08:51 PM

[mirsa]

Thanks Yadavagiri5 for the rare song from Ham bhi insaan hain (1959)

[r&d]

Requesting the following songs of Geeta ji composed by Hemantda

Maine tujhe pukaara - Geeta Dutt , Hemant Kumar (Laalten (1956) MD : Hemant Kumar

Thanks in advance

Best Regards
Parag

Faizel has u/l this song in his thread. enjoy.
I might clean it and u/l it here later.

http://www.hamaraforums.com/index.php?show...st&p=498680