Shamshad Begum Or Noorjahan Options

[sbfan]

Hi friends

Here I present a song from Khandaan- Nj movie 1941
This song

"MERI AMMI KA RAJ BHALA " is credited to noorjahan but on listening i am doubtful that it is by shamshad . other sources on net say we have only one song duet " chalo paniya bharan " by shamshad ,noorjahan(which is already u/l). Can anyone clear ,my doubt . It is an old recorded listen with high voulme.

regards

Ashish

[Ummer]

Hello Ashish,
I am Shamshad Begum fanatic. She is my most fav singer. I haven't downloaded the song, but "Meri Ammi ka Raaj" is Noor Jehan for sure.

My MOST FAVORITE Shamshad/Noor Jehan duet is "Maar gayie re hamien teri najariya, pyari najariya, tirchi najariya" Love it

[maheshks]

Ashishji you are correct...if you listen to both the songs

meri ammi ka raaj bhala and hum aankhmicholi khelenge from the movie khandan....the difference in voices is absolutely clear. The first one is sung by shamshad and the second one by noorjahan.

Those days there were different versions of the songs....we may have to wait for Urjungji to throw some light on this aspect.

[Inaam]

Does Anyone Have The Track Listing Of 'Khandan'?
Any help is appreciated.


Inaam

[sangeetbhakt]

Does Anyone Have The Track Listing Of 'Khandan'?
Any help is appreciated.


Inaam

Here's what the Geetkosh says:
Film: Khandaan (1942)
*ring: NoorjehaN, Ghulam Mohammad, Manorama, Ajmal, Durga Khote
Music: Ghulam Haider
Lyrics: Not mentioned

Tracks:
1. Ud ja panchhi uD ja -- NoorjehaN
2. Maar gayi re hameN teri najariya -- NoorjehaN, chorus
3. Mere man ka panchhi kyooN bole -- ?????
4. Shokh sitaaroN se hil milke -- NoorjehaN
5. Chalo paniya bharan ko chaleN -- NoorjehaN, Shamshad Begum, chorus
6. Meri amma ka raaj bhala -- NoorjehaN
7. Aa gaya mere baag ka maali -- NoorjehaN
8. Pee le pee le more raaja -- NoorjehaN
9. Tu kaun si badli me -- NoorjehaN
10. Mere liye jahaaN me chain na qaraar hai -- NoorjehaN

No male singers in the film at all.
Also, is the hero of this film the music director Ghulam Mohammad?

[Inaam]

Thank you very much sangeetbhakt sahab!

To my knowledge, Pran was the hero of the film.

BTW can you provide me the link of Geetkosh site?

Inaam

[maheshks]

Nadeem bhai ye dekho poster and the hero







PRAN AND NOORJAHAN


Music director was ghulam haider

[maheshks]

Some more interesting facts about the movie khandan....gathered from the net
This indicates that the song ud ja panchhi was a duet sung by Gulam Haider himself along with noorjahan.




In this film KHANDAN of D.Pancholi's produced in Lahore ,a juvenile
Nurjahan was introduced to the Indian audiences for the first time
after run away success of KHAZANCHI. Gulam Hyder had created 'waves'
with his haunting scores.

KHANDAN too repeated success with scintillating music.Out of
them,there was one redeeming duet rendered by Nurjahan/GH himself and
picturised on the heroine and actor Pran,the hero.The song: Ud jaa
panchi...created ripples in the music biz.Such a tune had never ever
been composed before,creating shock waves in the NT group, in Bombay
too in the Ranjit circle with Jnan Dutt/Khemraj in top form and Anil
Biswas too, for the National Studios and so too in the Prakash Studios
with Shankar Rao Vyas at the helm...Naushad herein was a
Liliputian,mind well!!

The 'asthaayi' itself in Ud jaa,panchee ee ee was an intricate piece
of improvisation that litterally stunned all GH's contemporaries.

One has to bear in mind that during the music making of KHANDAN around
'41,Shyamsundar was in GH's troupe as a violinist.It was Shyamsundar
who was the "first" MD who adapted this Ud jaa... style of 'mukhda' in
his first Bombay venture in Prabhat's NAI KAHANI ('43) in the song
penned by Walli: Aa jaa,aa-jaa;aa aa aaa aa-ja...MD: GH did it on
'panchee' and the 'shagird' did it on 'Aa jaa'

[sangeetbhakt]

Thank you very much sangeetbhakt sahab!

To my knowledge, Pran was the hero of the film.

BTW can you provide me the link of Geetkosh site?

Inaam

I guess the film has both Pran and Ghulam Mohammad.
THe geetkosh is a book, actually a set of 5 volumes, not
a site.

[Shahrukh3000]

Hello Ashish,
                      I am Shamshad Begum fanatic. She is my most fav singer. I haven't downloaded the song, but "Meri Ammi ka Raaj" is Noor Jehan for sure.

My MOST FAVORITE Shamshad/Noor Jehan duet is "Maar gayie re hamien teri najariya, pyari najariya, tirchi najariya" Love it

hello ummar ji

can u try to find and upload this song for me pls

FILM: NAYA PAISA (1958)
SONG: AJI NA NA NA KAROJI KARO HAAN
SINGERS: MOHD RAFI & SHAMSHAD BEGUM

[Ummer]

Hello Guyz,
I think film had 2 heroes and heroines as the storyline goes. First generation hero and heroine were played by Ghulam Mohd and Manorama. Second generation hero and heroine were played by Pran and Noor Jehan.

[Ummer]

Also, is the hero of this film the music director Ghulam Mohammad?

No! Ghulam Mohammad, Ajmal etc were veteran actors. They stayed back in Lahore and after partition they acted in scores of Pakistani films. Ghulam Mohammad acted again with Noor Jehan in Intezar (1956).

[urzung khan]

Does Anyone Have The Track Listing Of 'Khandan'?
Any help is appreciated.


Inaam

Here's what the Geetkosh says:
Film: Khandaan (1942)
*ring: NoorjehaN, Ghulam Mohammad, Manorama, Ajmal, Durga Khote
Music: Ghulam Haider
Lyrics: Not mentioned

Tracks:
1. Ud ja panchhi uD ja -- NoorjehaN
2. Maar gayi re hameN teri najariya -- NoorjehaN, chorus
3. Mere man ka panchhi kyooN bole -- ?????
4. Shokh sitaaroN se hil milke -- NoorjehaN
5. Chalo paniya bharan ko chaleN -- NoorjehaN, Shamshad Begum, chorus
6. Meri amma ka raaj bhala -- NoorjehaN
7. Aa gaya mere baag ka maali -- NoorjehaN
8. Pee le pee le more raaja -- NoorjehaN
9. Tu kaun si badli me -- NoorjehaN
10. Mere liye jahaaN me chain na qaraar hai -- NoorjehaN

No male singers in the film at all.
Also, is the hero of this film the music director Ghulam Mohammad?

3. Mere man ka panchhi kyooN bole -- ?????
If anybody has this song, please share.

The lyricist for 'ur ja panchhi' was M D Taseer and for the
rest of the songs D N Madhok.

In the cast the correct name is Durga MoTa and not Durga
Khote.

5. Chalo paniya bharan ko chaleN -- NoorjehaN, Shamshad Begum, chorus
Which of the lines have been sung by Noor Jahan ?

urzung khan

[Ummer]

On second thoughts I think there is something wrong with the Geetkosh data.

8. Pee le pee le more raaja -- NoorjehaN<---- This song was sung by Shamshad Begum, NOT Noor Jehan, I am 100% sure about that. It was one of the Shamshad Begum biggest hits in 1942, and most magazines I read list it as Shamshad Begum song. I used to have this song, it doesnt sound like Noor Jehan at all. I dont like this song though.

On second thoughts, I think Ashish maybe correct. "Meri Ammi ka Raaj" maybe sung by Shamshad, instead of Noor Jehan.

[bibhas]

Thank you very much sangeetbhakt sahab!

To my knowledge, Pran was the hero of the film.

BTW can you provide me the link of Geetkosh site?

Inaam

I guess the film has both Pran and Ghulam Mohammad.
THe geetkosh is a book, actually a set of 5 volumes, not
a site.

It does have a website though (like everything else these days).
Inaam, the URL is http://hamraaz.org/index.htm