 Sahir Ludhianvi: Silver Memories, Romantic Sahir |
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Sahir Ludhianvi: Silver Memories
, Romantic Sahir
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| bawlachintu |
 Sep 30 2006, 09:09 AM
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QUOTE(mmuk2004 @ Sep 28 2006, 04:35 AM)  BC, I have been busy of late, sorry.  Will definitely get back in a couple of days... Thanks for keeping the thread alive...  No probs Madhavi.  sabar ka phal meetha hota hai  Here is the best singer of universe "The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." -George Bernard Shaw ." |
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| bawlachintu |
Mar 24 2007, 04:12 PM
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Admin ji, is thread ko pin karenge ????
Here is the best singer of universe "The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." -George Bernard Shaw ." |
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| bawlachintu |
Apr 1 2007, 11:46 AM
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Ek gana Sahir ka idhar hai:
Kuchh bhi kar lo tumko ek din meri hona hoga Duet by Kishore and Lata Film: Joshila http://www.hamaraforums.com/index.php?s=&a...st&p=357128 Here is the best singer of universe "The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." -George Bernard Shaw ." |
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| bawlachintu |
May 16 2007, 07:37 PM
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Ek aur Sahir ka gana idhar:-
Tum ko dekha to-Lata Film: Deedar-e-yaar Music: Laxmi Pyare http://www.hamaraforums.com/index.php?s=&a...st&p=358697 Might be a rare occasion of Laxmi-Pyare appearing with Sahir in any film!!! Here is the best singer of universe "The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." -George Bernard Shaw ." |
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| mmuk2004 |
May 16 2007, 08:23 PM
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Don't forget the superb Daag tracks... and the earlier "Yeh dil tum bin kahin lagta nahin main kya karoon"
"This isn't right, this isn't even wrong." Wolfgang Pauli (1900-1958) "There are no facts, only interpretations." Friedrich Nietzsche (1844-1900) |
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| YaarMere |
May 16 2007, 08:44 PM
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QUOTE(mmuk2004 @ May 16 2007, 03:53 PM) "Yeh dil tum bin kahin lagta nahin main kya karoon" Rafi duet? If so, then its: "Yeh dil tum bin kahin lagta nahin hum kya kare" but, if no, then feel like a jackass right now.  |
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| bawlachintu |
May 16 2007, 08:55 PM
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QUOTE(YaarMere @ May 16 2007, 08:44 PM) QUOTE(mmuk2004 @ May 16 2007, 03:53 PM) "Yeh dil tum bin kahin lagta nahin main kya karoon" Rafi duet? If so, then its: "Yeh dil tum bin kahin lagta nahin hum kya kare" but, if no, then feel like a jackass right now. Typo errors do occur my friend.  Here is the best singer of universe "The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." -George Bernard Shaw ." |
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| mmuk2004 |
May 16 2007, 09:02 PM
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Okay touche...
 Sometimes typos need to be genuinely identified...  "This isn't right, this isn't even wrong." Wolfgang Pauli (1900-1958) "There are no facts, only interpretations." Friedrich Nietzsche (1844-1900) |
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| bawlachintu |
May 16 2007, 09:10 PM
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QUOTE(mmuk2004 @ May 16 2007, 08:23 PM) Don't forget the superb Daag tracks... and the earlier "Yeh dil tum bin kahin lagta nahin main kya karoon" Thanks for reminding me of Daag tracks. Here is the best singer of universe "The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." -George Bernard Shaw ." |
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| mmuk2004 |
May 16 2007, 09:24 PM
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Talking about Daag... and KK's siren call...
Mere dil mein aaj kya hai Tu kahe to main batadun (2) Teri zulf phir sawaroon Teri Maang phir saja doon Mere dil mein aaj kya hai Mujhe devta banakar teri chahaton ne pooja(2) Mera pyar keh raha hai main tujhe khuda bana doon Mere dil mein aaj kya hai... Koi dhoondne bhi aaye To hamen na dhoond paaye(2) Tu mujhe kahin chupa de Main tujhe kahin chupa de... Mere baazuon mein aakar Tera dard chain paaye(2) Tere gesuon mein chupkar Main jahan ke gham bhula doon... Teri zulf phir sawaroon teri maang phir saja doon... Promises and confessions... Extreme, heady romance... the blend of passion...iconoclasm and the private space... the lover is literally creating his world where they are the worshipped and the worshippers... The lover's tribute to the girl in the last stanza...combining physical and emotional fulfilment... The intensely passionate private gesture of "teri zulf phir sawaroon"...and following it ..."teri maang phir sajaa doon" somehow changes the typically symbolic marital/social metaphor to a private promise... And just in case anyone wants a quick refresher... . LP-Daag(1973)-Mere Dil Mein Aaj Kya Hai(KK_Sahir).mp3 192 (Did not want to mess with the rip... hope this escapes the eye... )  /4.14"This isn't right, this isn't even wrong." Wolfgang Pauli (1900-1958) "There are no facts, only interpretations." Friedrich Nietzsche (1844-1900) |
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| mmuk2004 |
Jun 4 2007, 11:30 AM
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Jaaneman Tum Kamal Karti Ho
Trishul (1978) MD: Khayyam From heady private promises to breezy sophisticated "izhaar"... Aaj hum ishq ka izhaar karen to kya ho(KK) Jaan pehchan se inkaar karen to kya ho(LM) Bhari mehfil mein tumhein pyar karen to kya ho(KK) Koshishen aapki bekar karen to kya ho(LM) Note how different the mukhda is from the antaras... begins in typical Khaiyyam style... the words and the mode remind one of the Pyaasa song... "hum aapki aankhon mein is dil ko basa dein to... " where both the male and the female tease each other positing questions as answers to questions... Bhari mehfil mein tumhein pyar karen to kya ho..." Kishore's voice is perfectly pitched with its teasing threat... encompassing the song which is daring the girl to admit to her emotions...and Lata's voice, dealing with it and the situation... perfectly controlled with her crystal cool diction is so beautifully appropriate... Kehte darti ho dil mein marti ho Janeman tum kamal karti ho The attack is direct..."Kehte darti ho dil mein marti ho" ...and then couched in..."Jaaneman tum kamal karti ho..." A casual accusation turned on its head as a compliment... Sahir catches the colloquial phrase at its expressive best... Aankhon aankhon mein muskurati ho Baaton baaton mein dil lubhati ho Narm saanson ki garm lehron se Dil ke taaron ko gudgudati ho... In sab baaton ka matlab poochen to Rang chehre ka laal karti ho Jaaneman tum kamal karti ho... Chup bhi rahiye ye kya kayamat hai Aap ki bhi ajeeb aadat hai Itna hangama kis liye aakhir Pyar hai ya koi museebat hai Jab bhi milte ho jaane tum kya kya Ulte seedhe sawaal karte ho Jaaneman tum kamal karte ho Sahir's uses a combination of formal Urdu and everyday phrases very comfortably... "ye kya kayamat hai" "ajeeb adadat" "itna hangama Kyun aakhir" "pyar hai ya koi museebat hai" 'ulte-seedhe sawaal". Love's vocabulary has expanded, it is more accessible, more mundane too...Remember, "Mohabbat bade Kaam Ki Cheez Hai" and "Yehi Ek Araam ki Cheez Hai" are from the same movie... Mastiyan si faza pe chayi hain Waadiyan rang mein nahayin hai Narm sabz pe shokh phoolon ne Makhmali chaderein bichayen hain Chodo sharmana aise mausam mein Tabiyat kyun nidhal karti ho... Janeman tum kamal karti ho The "faza" and the "waadiyan" are there too to support the lover ... The use of lush surroundings is brought in casually, finally as a kind of final push by the lover to get the girl to admit to her emotions..."Chhodo sharmana aise mausam mein..." Jab bhi milte ho jaane tum kya kya Ulte seedhe sawaal karte ho... Janeman... Sahir did not write much in the seventies, concentrating on a few films but in this decade he seems to be experimenting with stretching the boundaries his romantic poetry to include new moods and attitudes in newer expressions..."Gapoochi gapoochi gum gum kishichi kishichi kum kum/o sanam hum dono saath rahen janam janam... " might be considered as pushing it to rather extreme limits as far as the "poetic" izhaar of love is concerned, but it certainly caugnt the attention of the nation at the time... even when one does not remember the rest of the lyrics... I think everyone remembers the first shocker line of the song...(okay it was underscored by the fact that it introduced a nubile Poonam Dhillon sporting a bikini ). Sahir seems much more at ease in the Jaaneman song...trying to express romance in the challenging, changing world of the Seventies...KH-Trishul(1978)-Jaaneman Tum kamal(KL_Sahir).mp3 128/5.39 "This isn't right, this isn't even wrong." Wolfgang Pauli (1900-1958) "There are no facts, only interpretations." Friedrich Nietzsche (1844-1900) |
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| anjvajay |
Jun 4 2007, 10:18 PM
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Madhavi,
Pata nahin ki 'Theory' ke critics ka kitna asar raha hai. Lekin aapko padte huve mujhe 'Derrida' jase post-structuralist yaad aate hain. Text ko Deconstruct karke resha-resha udhedte jane ka wahi andaj... lekin yahan ye Deconstruction mostly positive hai. Khair jo bhi ho aap ko padna hamesha ek behtar anubhav raha hai. Ummid hai agali baar Sahir ke lyrics ki kuchh aur parten khulengi... |
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| dsk |
 Jun 4 2007, 11:22 PM
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The all time great hit written by Sahir sahab...
[b]Main Pal Do Pal Ka Shayar Hoon Film - Kabhi Kabhie Year - 1977 Lyricist - Sahir Ludhianvi Musician - Khayyaam Singer - Mukesh Duration - 3.20 mins Bitrate - 128kbps Format - mp3 Download it [/b] |
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| mmuk2004 |
Jun 5 2007, 02:11 AM
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Anjvajay,
You make me blush...  Thank you for your encouragement... Derrida wale daudayen ya na daudayen... you have made my day. Seriously though, mujhe mainstream/popular cinema mein hamesha se interest raha hai and I do use (ulp...post-structuralist) cultural theories to justify that interest and make sense of my obsessions... Madhavi "This isn't right, this isn't even wrong." Wolfgang Pauli (1900-1958) "There are no facts, only interpretations." Friedrich Nietzsche (1844-1900) |
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| Talaikya |
Jun 6 2007, 12:46 AM
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Well blush some more then Madhavi
 (Not that anything you said after that made any sense to me ) I am glad this thread is back in action. You really have a knack of fleshing out a song such that it takes on added hues.  You must be the change you want to see in the world - Mahatma Gandhi |
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