Famous Songs & Their Inspiration, Original song & later better-known version Options

[Faraaj73]

I'm uploading 2-3 famous songs which most music-lovers are familiar with and the original (and lesser known) song that inspired them. The audio of the extremely rare originals is quite good even if the bit rate is low.

Please note, there is no knowing how old some original tunes are. The original song that I attach may very well be inspired by an original dating back to the 19th century. Credit is certainly due to the later composer for the re-packaging and presentation of the song.

For nearly everyone Mohe Panghat Pe Nandlal equals Mughal e Azam as rendered by Lata. I attach below at 192 kbps mp3 the Mughal e Azam song as well as the original Indubala version of the 1920s. Indubala, now forgotten was a great name of the 1920s and was trained by Gauhar Jaan.




Enjoy! And members having similar examples are welcome to share them here.

Kind Regards
Faraaj

[RajanCS]

Recently, EXON had uploaded a Asha-Shammi Kapoor song from the film Jeevan Jyoti - Chaandni Ki Paalkhi Mein Baith Kar - under Shammi Kapoor songs in Sangeet Ke Sitare. The song starts with a humming by Asha followed by a slow line "Chaandni Ki Paalkhi Mein Baith Kar....". This is then followed by the main mukhda line "Tasveeren Banti Hain ....Mere Khayalon Mein Aa, Mamta Ki Baahon Mein, Jeevan Ki raahon mein...".

This song appears to have been the inspiration for Dil Pukare Aare Aare of Jewel Thief. You will notice that the line Mamta Ki Baahon Mein, Jeevan Ki raahon mein.." of this song and the line "Jo bhi hai Apna Layi hun Sab kuchh saath Hamare" of Jewel Thief song have same tune. However, The similarity ends here. Burman Dada has provided music for both the movies.

There is one more Bangla song set to music by Hemantda from the film Monihar - Nijhum Sondhay whose mukhda also appears to be influenced by the main mukhda of Jeevan Jyoti song mentioned above. They have very similar tunes. Here also the similarity is limited to mukhda only.

Uploading the songs from Jeevan Jyoti and Monihar for ready reference. Jewel Thief song is easily available and therefore not uploading here.

Duration: 00:04:14
Bitrate: 128 kbps


Duration 00:03:16
Bitrate: 192 kbps


Rajan

This post has been edited by RajanCS: Dec 2 2008, 10:19 PM

[Amalesh]

Interesting thread.....

Faraaj ji, I do not know what you had in mind when you started the thread, instances when the Music Director has reused his tunes/composition skillfully or when we have had lifters brazenly copying someone else's tunes or taken a tune and added beats or increased or decreased the tempo etc but mostly not even doing that much....

For the second category we have a wonderful site on rampant plagiarism in Indian films http://www.itwofs.com/

Those of you who have not been there...it is a must visit. The site is very shabbily organized, but the content is great. Just scroll down a little and then on the right hand side you will see a list of Indian Music Directors. Click on any of the name and they will take you to the page where all of that particualr Director's lifted songs are listed along with the originals. For a majority of them a short audio clip is also attached.....you can just listen to both one after another and get an idea of what the copycats have done...and you would see Anu Malik lifting from Simon and Garfunkel (Taare Hain Baarati - El Condor Pasa) to Beethoven (Jaane Mujhe Kya Hua - Fur Elise), Boney M (Jawani Diwani - Bahama Mama) to Nina Rota (Raja ko Rani Se - Godfather tune) Mehdi Hasan (Dheere Dheere - Rafta Rafta) To Najam Sheraz (Bheegey Hont - Mainu Tere Naal)...... That guy is probably the most shameless lifter but he has had no monopoly on getting "inspired"......O P Nayyar to Viju Shah, Snehal Bhatkar to Chitalkar, SD Burman to AR Rahman have all succumbed to this temptation occasionally.....

On the previous more healthy category of Music Directors using their own tunes......this is a nice one...
Roshan in Soorat Aur Seerat....in this Mukesh number


Bahut Diya Denewale Ne Tujhko.....the prelude and interlude music was later used in Karan Arjun by his son Rajesh Roshan......Yeh Bandhan To Pyaar Ka Bandhan Hai....

Copying/reusing your father's tune is not plagiarism right....
It is your legal inheritance

This post has been edited by Amalesh: Dec 3 2008, 10:59 PM

[Faraaj73]

Interesting thread.....

For the second category we have wonderful site on rampant plagiarism in Indian films http://www.itwofs.com/

...and you would see Anu Malik lifting from Simon and Garfunkel (Taare Hain Baarati - El Condor Pasa) to Beethoven (Jaane Mujhe Kya Hua - Fur Elise), Boney M (Jawani Diwani - Bahama Mama) to Nina Rota (Raja ko Rani Se - Godfather tune) Mehdi Hasan (Dheere Dheere - Rafta Rafta) To Najam Sheraz (Bheegey Hont - Mainu Tere Naal)...... That guy is probably the most shameless lifter but he has had no monopoly on getting "inspired"......O P Nayyar to Viju Shah, Snehal Bhatkar to Chitalkar, SD Burman to AR Rahman have all succumbed to this temptation occasionally.....

Copying/reusing your father's tune is not plagiarism right....
It is your legal inheritance

Amalesh Saab

Interesting reply and site you directed me to!

Yes, Anu Malik has built quite a reputation - I think I read an article on his plagiarism in Time Magazine some time back!

I don't know if Copyright laws will support a claim on legal inheritance....but I can tell you my esteem for Roshan grows with each song I listen to...and you have to admit its difficult to grow under the shadow of and equal the achievements of such a man!

Thanks for your comments and contributions....please continue to contribute....

Kind Regards
Faraaj

[Exon]

Faraaj,

Very good topic.
Here is a song by Ashok Kumar which was made famous later by Kishore Kumar and Manna Dey in Padosan. The song audio originated from HF member.

Film: Jhoola (1941)
Music: Saraswati Devi
Singer: Ashok Kumar
Title: ek chatura naar (1:47 \ 160)


Exon

This post has been edited by Exon: Dec 3 2008, 05:53 PM

[Faraaj73]

Faraaj,

Very good topic.
Here is a song by Ashok Kumar which was made famous later by Kishore Kumar and Manna Dey in Padosan. The song audio originated from HF member.

Exon

Exon Ji

Glad to see you participating and thanks for this beautiful song....

Kind Regards
Faraaj