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Gulzar - The Lyricist - The Genius
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| King Kishore |
 Apr 4 2007, 04:25 PM
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Gulzar
Want to share some of this Genius' works, friends. ----- Starting with 'Sunset Point' - The Album http://www.hamaraforums.com/index.php?act=...4785&st=45# -----
Aadmi Theek Se Dekh Paata Naheen, Aur Parde Pe Manzar Badal Jaata Hai, Ek Baar Chaley Jaate Hain Jo Din-Raat, Suboh-Shaam, Wo Phir Naheen Aate, Wo Phir Naheen Aate, Zindagi Ke Safar Mein Guzar Jaate Hain Jo Makaam, Wo Phir Naheen Aate, Wo Phir Naheen Aate... ----- |
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| Mandrake |
Jun 2 2007, 11:41 AM
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Is mod se jaate hain.... is loosely based on a poem written by Gulzar. It is said that the poem was written more in quiet angst than happiness. It was the time when his relationship with Rakhee was strained.
Us mod pe baitha hoon jis mode se jaati hain har ek taraf raahen... Ik roz toh yoon hoga jis mod pe baitha hoon us mod pe aakar tum ruk jaaogi, keh dogi woh kaunsa raasta hai jis raah se jaana hai... Self - belief is the most potent force.
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| mmuk2004 |
Jun 7 2007, 10:45 AM
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QUOTE(Mandrake @ Jun 2 2007, 01:11 AM)  Is mod se jaate hain.... is loosely based on a poem written by Gulzar. It is said that the poem was written more in quiet angst than happiness. It was the time when his relationship with Rakhee was strained. Us mod pe baitha hoon jis mode se jaati hain har ek taraf raahen... Ik roz toh yoon hoga jis mod pe baitha hoon us mod pe aakar tum ruk jaaogi, keh dogi woh kaunsa raasta hai jis raah se jaana hai... Suhas, That poem set me thinking about just how much of autobiography you can read into a work of art... I never realised it before or maybe I am reading too much into it now but it does seem that Aandhi has fairly strong autobiographical elements in in. Went back to Aandhi after years...Sanjeev Kumar is an amateur poet in the movie a fact that crops up at various points in the movie. and then I read a comment in some review of Meghna Gulzar's book on her father (which is apparently mentioned in the book) that Gulzar's fixed routines and his "lights-out-at-ten" schedule had provoked Rakhee to say "Agar aap shayar na hote to bade hi ordinary hote" Check this out... Suchitra on the phone listening to Sanjeev's recitation...wonderful love scene laced with just the right blend of realism and humor that comes alive in the perfect inflections brought to it by Sanjeev and Suchitra. Sanjeev: Aao tumko utha loon kandhon par Tum uchak kar shareer hothon se Choom lena ye chand ka matha... Aaj ki raat dekha na tumne Kaise jhuk jhuk ke kohiyon ke bal Chand itna kareeb aaya hai... Suchitra:Beautiful..wonderful.. Sanjeev: acchi hai na Suchitra:Bahut hi acchi hai Sanjeev:Pata hai... jab tum achha kehti ho... to bahut hi accha lagta hai. Suchitra:Tumhari saath ye kavita na hoti na, to tum bahut hi ordinary aadmi hote. Sanjeev:Kaise na hoti... barah saal ka tha jab mushairon mein padhna shuru kiya tha (Btw, this "barah saal ki umr mein kar liya tha" is Sanjeev's pet brag line in the movie...) Suchitra:Tumne Saare kaam barah saal ke umr mein kar liye the Sanjeev: Haan saare kaam barah saal ke umr mein kar liye the...siwaye shaadi ke... Suchitra: Woh kyun nahin kiya... Sanjeev:Tum jo nahin mili warna woh bhi kar leta... Suchitra:Bach gaye tum... nahin to kunware hi reh jaate... This scene leads to the other classic duet of Aandhi Tum Aa Gaye Ho Noor Aa Gaya Hai Nahin to charagon se lau ja rahi thi Jeene ki tumse vajah mil gayee hai Badi bevajah zindagi ja rahi thi Kahan se chale kahan ke liye Ye Khabar nahin thi magar Koi bhi sira jahan ja mila Wohin tum miloge Ki hum tak tumhari dua aa rahi thi Din duba nahin raat dubi nahin Jaane Kaisa hai safar Khwabon ke diye aankhon mein liye Wahin aa rahe the Jahan se tumhari sada aa rahi thi Tum aa gaye ho... All the three magnificent duets of Aandhi are redolent with an intense sense of regret, of loss...not just the "Tere Bina Zindagi Se" song but even the two other songs that are used as romantic duets... For some reason I have always been disappointed with the picturization of the songs..."Ke hum tak tumhari dua aa rahi thi..." such an evocative song... beautifully sung and beautifully composed... seems rather wasted when used in a very ordinary way with Suchitra and Sanjeev strolling along some ruins or mountains with sundry, close-up shots of flowers or an eagle circling the sky...Similarly with the "Is mod Se Jaate Hain" song... the lyrics of the song are somewhat sombre "Ye soch ke baithi hoon/Ik raah to woh hogi/Tum tak jo pohachti hai... " similar in tone with the poem really (Ik roz toh yoon hoga/jis mod pe baitha hoon/us mod pe aakar tum/ruk jaaogi). It fits rather uncomfortably in the movie as a romantic duet... While it is silly to look for exact parallels from Gulzar's life in Aandhi, the movie is heavy with the sense of a regret about a relationship gone wrong. The regret is expressed in the lyrics and dialogues and not really explored analytically in the movie...and for some reason the brouhaha over Aandhi's political parallels with Indira Gandhi's life mutes these other more personal parallels with Gulzar's life. "This isn't right, this isn't even wrong." Wolfgang Pauli (1900-1958) "There are no facts, only interpretations." Friedrich Nietzsche (1844-1900) |
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That's called REAL HELP :thumbs-u... May 17 2007, 10:21 AM Mandrake Dunno about you 'bidesi's ;) but in my cou... May 17 2007, 10:43 AM mmuk2004 Yes I love that... Can someone explain exactly wha... May 17 2007, 11:08 AM parag_sankla
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[quote name='mmuk2004' post='374780' date='May 17... May 17 2007, 11:36 AM Mandrake Why did Gulzar do this 'hazing'? Is it rel... May 17 2007, 11:33 AM mmuk2004
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Aashirwaad - 1968
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Just one song in it "Mora gora... May 17 2007, 12:00 PM parag_sankla
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Just one song in it "Mora gor... May 17 2007, 12:09 PM mmuk2004
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I must add, that "Mora gora ang lai le... May 17 2007, 03:52 PM HumTum But Paragbhai, so what if you are biased towards y... May 17 2007, 12:36 PM King Kishore Superb, - Madhavi, Mandrake, Nature, Parag and Hum... May 17 2007, 03:45 PM usrafian Dosto,
Moka Bhi Hai Aur Datur Bhi Hai....
..enjo... May 17 2007, 05:43 PM mmuk2004
Kaho Yaaro, Kaisi Rahii ??? :rolleyes:
USR
V... May 18 2007, 04:45 AM bawlachintu Could sumone post lyrics of "Anki chali banki... May 17 2007, 06:10 PM mmuk2004
Could sumone post lyrics of "Anki chali bank... May 18 2007, 04:31 AM bawlachintu
Could sumone post lyrics of "Anki chali ban... Jun 24 2007, 05:48 PM Mandrake Thanks Madhavi for the background. Yes, I haven... May 18 2007, 07:52 AM parag_sankla
Thanks Madhavi for the background. Yes, I haven... May 18 2007, 08:17 AM Mandrake Yes, I checked it. The site seems to be down, as n... May 18 2007, 09:23 AM mmuk2004 USRafian,
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Har Ek Gham Nichod Ke... May 19 2007, 11:58 AM usrafian
[quote name='usrafian' post='374919' date='May 17... May 19 2007, 01:12 PM parag_sankla
[quote name='usrafian' post='374919' date='May 1... May 19 2007, 10:44 PM shaibaal
which movie ? detail please.[/quote]
The name of... May 20 2007, 09:17 AM mmuk2004
which movie ? detail please.
The name of the ba... May 20 2007, 09:37 AM shaibaal
That's ok... your post was for more detailed... May 21 2007, 04:19 AM mmuk2004
There is this song - Roz akeli aaye, roz akeli j... May 21 2007, 08:54 AM shaibaal
http://www.hamaraforums.com/index.php?show...mp;... May 29 2007, 02:52 AM mmuk2004
She flavors the movie with her name... :smile: ... May 20 2007, 09:25 AM Mandrake And what about that lovely, lovely Khushboo song, ... May 19 2007, 10:15 PM mmuk2004
And what about that lovely, lovely Khushboo song,... May 20 2007, 09:18 AM mmuk2004 Okay googled for the song with "nazrul" ... May 21 2007, 09:01 AM usrafian
Okay googled for the song with "nazrul... May 29 2007, 11:21 AM mmuk2004 Shaibaal,
Thank you for the prompt upload... in t... May 29 2007, 09:15 AM shaibaal
Shaibaal,
Thank you for the prompt upload... in ... May 31 2007, 10:42 PM mmuk2004
Madhavi,
You can listen to the Asha Bhonsle vers... Jun 1 2007, 08:29 PM mmuk2004 USR ji,
That was straight from the heart... aapk... May 29 2007, 06:14 PM usrafian ThankU Madhavi Ji for your comment .
Very nice de... May 30 2007, 10:18 AM mmuk2004 Can someone please post the lyrics of "Haal C... Jun 1 2007, 08:30 PM Hari Ram I have a question on Gulzar's Aandhi movie.
I ... Jun 1 2007, 08:38 PM mmuk2004
I have a question on Gulzar's Aandhi movie.
I... Jun 1 2007, 08:53 PM Hari Ram
I have a question on Gulzar's Aandhi movie.
... Jun 1 2007, 09:33 PM mmuk2004
Thanks for fetching the article on Aandhi so qui... Jun 7 2007, 10:39 AM Hari Ram
Can someone please post the lyrics of "Haal ... Jun 1 2007, 08:41 PM mmuk2004 Jahan Tum Le Chalo (1999)
Vishal Bharadwaj :wub: ... Jun 12 2007, 12:20 PM mmuk2004 Here are the lyrics of the song... could not catch... Jun 12 2007, 01:16 PM Hari Ram
Here are the lyrics of the song... could not catc... Jun 12 2007, 08:10 PM mmuk2004
[quote name='mmuk2004' post='380345' date='Jun 12... Jun 12 2007, 08:16 PM Hari Ram
Thanks Hari Ram for your prompt response. You ... Jun 12 2007, 08:26 PM mmuk2004 Uploading the rest of the songs
Jahan Tum Le Chal... Jun 12 2007, 07:16 PM anjvajay
Uploading the rest of the songs
[color=#CC0000][... Jun 14 2007, 12:34 PM OMkar Uploading the rest of the songs
[color=#3333ff]J... Jul 21 2007, 01:16 AM anjvajay
Uploading the rest of the songs
[color=#3333ff]... Jul 21 2007, 04:03 AM usrafian
Omkarji,
Gul chaho to niklo shoo-e-'Gulzar... Jul 21 2007, 04:18 PM anjvajay
Shukriya USRji,
Ye nazam Gulzar ki sabse behtar n... Jul 21 2007, 05:09 PM mmuk2004
[quote name='anjvajay' post='393880' date='Jul 21... Jul 21 2007, 11:22 PM anjvajay
Uploading the rest of the songs
[color=#3333FF]J... Jul 21 2007, 03:54 PM mmuk2004
Uploading the rest of the songs
[color=#3333FF]... Jul 21 2007, 11:12 PM anjvajay
[quote name='anjvajay' post='393985' date='Jul 21... Jul 21 2007, 11:42 PM mmuk2004
Speaking of Desh Deepak's 'first' th... Jul 26 2007, 09:34 PM mmuk2004 Thanks Anjvajay just corrected the info.
A shift ... Jun 14 2007, 08:15 PM mmuk2004 Ek Hi Khwab Kai Baar Dekha Hai Maine
Kinara(1977)... Jun 23 2007, 12:48 PM bawlachintu
RD always grumbled affectionately about this so... Jun 23 2007, 10:03 PM mmuk2004 Found a very informative interview in which Gulzar... Jun 23 2007, 12:48 PM Talaikya Goosebumps all over the place!!! Thank... Jun 23 2007, 06:54 PM bawlachintu Audio of " Ek hi khwab"
Gulzar ki comme... Jun 24 2007, 05:29 PM HumTum http://www.hamaraforums.com/index.php?s=&a...st... Jun 26 2007, 09:48 AM mmuk2004 Maya Memsaab (1992)
khud se baatein karte rehna
B... Jun 28 2007, 06:54 PM G.Nabee
Maya Memsaab (1992)
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... Jun 28 2007, 09:42 PM mmuk2004
[quote name='mmuk2004' post='385833' date='Jun 28... Jun 28 2007, 11:05 PM jairaj :sad: I missed Roz Akeli AAye Roz Akeli Jaaye
Can ... Jul 26 2007, 05:52 AM |
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