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Sahir Ludhianvi: Silver Memories

, Romantic Sahir

 
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mmuk2004
post Jun 2 2006, 07:45 PM
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Hi

I am starting a topic on Sahir Ludhianvi that has been posted in another forum before. It was started on his death anniversary, a nostalgia trip beginning with some of his romantic lyrics. Feel free to add on songs that make you feel mmmm....warm and woolly-headed wub.gif, angry and passionate mad.gif, sad and philosophical sleep.gif or just plain confused wacko.gif and... all those other complex emotions related to the thing called ...love??? ninja.gif



Remembering him through his romantic duets:

Situation: Dream Sequence.
To expand upon it: the impoverished hero and the heroine express their love for each other in gorgeous surroundings, which would otherwise not be possible given the hero's depressing penury. Moreover the situation is literally a dream, which is not realised as the heroine later on opts for a more stable marriage with a well established publisher.

Note the wonderful lyrics, the entire song is posed as question upon question with the female counteracting the male's romantic metaphors with her teasing counter images... Wonderfully captures the mood of the film and yet stands on its own as classic romantic chedkhani.



Hum aap ki aankhon mein is dil ko basa dein to
Hum moond ke palkon ko is dil ko saza dein to
Hum aap ki aankhon mein is dil ko basa dein to

In zulfon mein goondege hum phool mohabbat ke
Zulfon ko jhatak kar hum yeh phool gira dein to

Hum aap ko kwaabon mein la la ke satayenge
Hum aap ki aankhon se neendein hi uda de to

Hum aap ke kadmon par gir jayenge ghas khakar
Is par bhi na hum apne aanchal ki hawa dein to

Hum aap ki aankon mein is dil ko basa dein to
Hum moond ke palkon ko is dil ko saza dein to



"This isn't right, this isn't even wrong."
Wolfgang Pauli (1900-1958)

"There are no facts, only interpretations."
Friedrich Nietzsche (1844-1900)

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post Jun 7 2006, 02:11 AM
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Thanks Parag, for your response.

To continue with Sahir
Still talking of mohabbat...

Here are two songs in very different styles talking about the rest of the world vis a vis the lovers. The mood, the expressions, the perception of love and the world is so different and yet they make the same assertion,that when one is in love, the rest of the world can go take a jump!


The first song is from Tajmahal(1964),a historical film.

The world is ready to punish the lovers, yet it will only stoke the fires...Lata's voice rises to the grand assertion of sahir's verse... Takht kya cheez hai aur lal-o-jwahar kya hai/Ishq wale to khudai bhi luta dete hain...

The lovers have already exchanged their vows, and this precious, unique experience gives them the strength to defy the world: "aap ab shauq se de len jo sazaa deten hain"

Now shift your focus to a contemporary setting, Kabhi Kabhi(1976),two young lovers,rich,without a worry in the world, who don't have a clue about the past passions of their parents, are passionately in love and express their thoughts, in the man's voice...

Pyar is not a jurm, it is not even a "khata" in their context. Pyar kar liya to kya, pyar hai khata nahin(it is love, not a mistake). Love is more accepted."teri meri umr mein kisne ye kiya nahin" The carefree lovers breezily take love in their stride, everyone has experienced it, at least when they were young, and they are not going to let anything stop them.

Main bhi hoshmand hoon, tu bhi hoshmand hai, Us tarah jiyenge hum jis tarah pasand hai...Unki baat kyun sune jinse waasta nahin...

Rasm kya riwaaz kya, dharm kya samaj kya/Dushmano ka khauf kyun,Doston ki laaj kya...They will defy everything for it...



Tajmahal 1964

Jurm e ulfat pe hamen log sazaa dete hain
kaise nadan hain sholon ko hawa dete hain
Jurm-e-ulfat pe

Ham se deewane kahin tarq e wafa karte hain
Jaan jaaye ke rahe baat nibha dete hain

Aap daulat ke tarazu mein dilon ko tolen(2)
Hum mohabbat se mohabbat ka sila dete hain

Takht kya cheez hai aur Lalo jawahar kya hai(2)
Ishq wale to khudai bhi luta dete hain

Ham ne dil de bhi diya ehde wafa le bhi liya(2)
Aap ab shauq se de len jo sazaa dete hain

Jurm-e-ulfat pe hamen log sazaa dete hain..
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Kabhi Kabhi(1976)

Pyar kar liya to kya
Pyar hai khata nahin
Teri meri umar mein kisne yeh kiya nahin
Pyar kar liya to kya

Tere honth mere hoth sil gaye to kya hua
Dil ki tarah jism bhi mil gaye to kya hua
Isse pehle kya kabhi yeh sitam hua nahin

Main bhi hoshmand hoon tu bhi hoshmand hai
Us tarah jiyenge hum jis tarah pasand hai
Unki baat kyun sune jinse waasta nahin
Pyar kar liya to kya pyar hai khata nahin

Rasm kya riwaaz kya dharm kya samaj kya
dushmano ka khauf kyun, doston ki laaj kya
Yeh wo shauk hai ke jisse koi bhi bacha nahin
Pyar kar liya to kya



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mmuk2004   Sahir Ludhianvi: Silver Memories   Jun 2 2006, 07:45 PM
mmuk2004   Scene: Rolling on the haystack singing in pristine...   Jun 2 2006, 07:51 PM
mmuk2004   Situation: 70s, An adorable Neetu Singh and an ado...   Jun 2 2006, 07:54 PM
parag_sankla   Hi I am starting a topic on Sahir Ludhianvi tha...   Jun 2 2006, 08:12 PM
mmuk2004   Thanks Parag, for your response. To continue wi...   Jun 7 2006, 02:11 AM
bawlachintu   Excellent writeups Madhavi. :)   Jun 8 2006, 05:45 PM
divz   madhavi...wonderful thread. and wonderful elucidat...   Jun 9 2006, 08:29 PM
Nimii   How did I miss this thread by Madhz!!...   Jun 9 2006, 08:32 PM
mmuk2004   Thanks BC, Divz and Nimii for your warm response. ...   Jun 9 2006, 09:37 PM
sri   Great idea Madhavi......and very well executed ...   Jun 9 2006, 09:56 PM
bawlachintu   Thanks BC, Divz and Nimii for your warm response....   Jun 11 2006, 04:31 PM
mmuk2004   As a critic and an admirer I would like to quote...   Jun 12 2006, 12:06 AM
Nimii   I am going to spend more time on this thread aaj s...   Jun 9 2006, 10:05 PM
divz   I am going to spend more time on this thread aaj ...   Jun 9 2006, 11:26 PM
Nimii   :afraid: Ayyo yaad mat dilaana tum!!!...   Jun 10 2006, 12:26 AM
Talaikya   Lo! In donon ne bhi rhyming shuru kar diya...   Jun 10 2006, 04:42 AM
Nimii   Tji :mellow: -_- We are trying to be reformed and...   Jun 10 2006, 07:25 AM
Nimii   Madhz dearest.. DEKHA HAI ZINDGI KO MAINE ITNA K...   Jun 10 2006, 07:29 AM
mmuk2004   Madhz dearest.. DEKHA HAI ZINDGI KO MAINE ITNA ...   Jun 10 2006, 10:43 PM
divz   Tji :mellow: -_- We are trying to be reformed an...   Jun 10 2006, 11:21 AM
deewani   Enjoying the lyrics and background mmuk, thank you...   Jun 10 2006, 11:55 AM
mmuk2004   Thanks Sri, Tji and Deewani, Wonderful to get suc...   Jun 10 2006, 10:36 PM
Nimii   Madhz I will come up with the description of the p...   Jun 10 2006, 11:26 PM
mmuk2004   Madhz I will come up with the description of the ...   Jun 11 2006, 12:33 AM
Jay   great thread, great tribute 2 Sahir.   Jun 11 2006, 03:50 AM
oye_sonu   :cool: waise apoon Majrooh grp ko belong karta hai...   Jun 11 2006, 05:46 PM
mmuk2004   :cool: waise apoon Majrooh grp ko belong karta ha...   Jun 12 2006, 12:41 AM
Nimii   The picturisation is in a hotel. Sharmila is seate...   Jun 11 2006, 06:29 PM
Nimii   Managed to rip the song.. in wmv format.. Hope it...   Jun 11 2006, 08:44 PM
mmuk2004   Nimz thank you, thank you :clap1: :clap1: Had al...   Jun 11 2006, 11:51 PM
Nimii   I am sure it should have been more than chai kaisi...   Jun 12 2006, 12:07 AM
Nimii   Another of my fav.. wordings are beautiful and sim...   Jun 12 2006, 12:27 AM
mmuk2004   Another of my fav.. wordings are beautiful and si...   Jun 12 2006, 07:20 PM
Nimii   Another of my fav.. wordings are beautiful and s...   Jun 12 2006, 07:40 PM
mmuk2004   A look now at a song from Trishul(1978), the big p...   Jun 12 2006, 07:35 PM
bawlachintu   Apart from Jaidev and Khaiyyam I don't think...   Jul 1 2006, 02:15 PM
Nimii   None that I can I think of Madhz.. Yesudas was m...   Jun 12 2006, 07:42 PM
oye_sonu   hi my request. EK ghazal jo Sahir saab ko kaafi ...   Jun 13 2006, 02:46 AM
mmuk2004   Lovely song Sonu, thank you for writing down the l...   Jun 15 2006, 02:08 AM
oye_sonu   Lovely song Sonu, thank you for writing down the ...   Jun 28 2006, 07:40 PM
mmuk2004   Pyar mein ek aur twist... The Scene: Initial stag...   Jun 22 2006, 02:49 AM
Nimii   Madhz.. haaye kya gaana chhuna hai aap ne :bow: B...   Jun 22 2006, 09:17 AM
joshi   Madhavi ji (if I may address you so), I've j...   Jun 28 2006, 12:40 PM
deewani   That last one is one of my favorites. I particular...   Jun 28 2006, 04:06 PM
mmuk2004   Madhavi ji (if I may address you so), I've ...   Jun 28 2006, 10:53 PM
r&d   Madhavi ji (if I may address you so), I've...   Jul 2 2006, 03:09 AM
mmuk2004   Thanks Nimz, Deewani and Sonu. Love and social co...   Jun 28 2006, 11:01 PM
oye_sonu   Thanks Nimz, Deewani and Sonu. Love and social c...   Jun 30 2006, 09:54 AM
pradeepasrani   Thanks Nimz, Deewani and Sonu. Love and social c...   Jun 30 2006, 12:28 PM
Nimii   Madhz in fact I was thinking of this Mukesh duet w...   Jun 29 2006, 10:48 AM
mmuk2004   Thanks Sonu. Pradeep, I had changed my song tag, ...   Jul 2 2006, 01:52 AM
mmuk2004   Lata, I thought you had written out the lyrics fo...   Jul 2 2006, 01:55 AM
mmuk2004   Thanks Rajnish, Great space saving tactics... :D...   Jul 2 2006, 10:27 PM
bawlachintu   Kal hi is gaane ko cable pe dekha. Meena Kumari lo...   Jul 3 2006, 06:25 PM
Nimii   Sigh! I still wanna see the video!! R ...   Jul 3 2006, 10:17 PM
Nimii   Another of my favourite one, is this one... Would...   Jul 3 2006, 10:21 PM
bawlachintu   Har antara apne aap mein ek dastaan hai.   Jul 4 2006, 10:16 AM
Nimii   Now what does dastaan mean :confused: My hindi te...   Jul 4 2006, 12:04 PM
Nimii   Tji got ur sms - dastaan - story :o Thank you...   Jul 4 2006, 07:46 PM
visuja   Madhavi-ji, Wonderful write ups. Always a pleasu...   Jul 5 2006, 05:08 PM
mmuk2004   Whoa...got to get my Urdu to Hindi dictionary for ...   Jul 5 2006, 06:31 PM
Nimii   Definitely not me :lol: Tho' a classic I di...   Jul 5 2006, 07:00 PM
Nimii   Madhz how about this one?/ Asha and Rafi sahab nu...   Jul 5 2006, 10:19 PM
mmuk2004   Madhz how about this one?/ Asha and Rafi sahab n...   Jul 5 2006, 10:52 PM
Nimii   :headbang: How did I miss it :mad: :spank: -ing my...   Jul 5 2006, 11:18 PM
Talaikya   Lata, I thought you had written out the lyrics f...   Jul 6 2006, 12:03 AM
Lata   Lata, I thought you had written out the lyrics ...   Jul 6 2006, 11:36 PM
mmuk2004   [quote name='Talaikya' post='271492' date='Jul 6 ...   Jul 8 2006, 12:11 AM
Lata   Thanks Tji for the lyrics and Lata for your int...   Jul 9 2006, 02:58 AM
r&d   Sigh! I still wanna see the video!...   Jul 7 2006, 08:14 AM
Nimii   shhhhhhhhh :blab: dont let "me" out of ...   Jul 6 2006, 12:13 AM
Nimii   R & D Rip rip kijiye to wmv or avi or real med...   Jul 7 2006, 08:44 AM
Anupama   Wow! Excellent work, Madhvi. Very impressive a...   Jul 7 2006, 09:07 AM
mmuk2004   Wow! Excellent work, Madhvi. Very impressive ...   Jul 7 2006, 11:52 PM
Anupama   [quote name='Anupama' post='271947' date='Jul 6 2...   Jul 8 2006, 08:10 AM
Nimii   Anu :o :shocked: YOU AMAZE ME!!!!...   Jul 7 2006, 09:14 AM
pradeepasrani   Its indeed thrilling to see a very informed discus...   Jul 7 2006, 02:36 PM
mmuk2004   Its indeed thrilling to see a very informed discu...   Jul 8 2006, 12:01 AM
Nimii   Pradeep ji do keep posting whenever you do find ti...   Jul 7 2006, 04:01 PM
mmuk2004   Had this one saved... Khuda-e-Bartar - Lata - T...   Jul 26 2006, 06:09 AM
visuja   Thanks once again :smile: Do save your analysis o...   Jul 26 2006, 07:19 AM
mmuk2004   Thanks Vivek, and please call me Madhavi. Ji give...   Jul 26 2006, 10:26 PM
unni   Madhavi: Members like you and Nasir-bhai bring a ...   Jul 26 2006, 10:39 PM
nasir   HAM AAPKI MEHFIL ME.N BHOOLE SE CHALE AAYE, HO MU...   Jul 26 2006, 10:54 PM
mmuk2004   Unni and Nasir Ji Thank you for your warm appreci...   Jul 27 2006, 01:24 PM
bawlachintu   Unni and Nasir Ji Thank you for your warm apprec...   Jul 27 2006, 09:19 PM
nasir   Unni and Nasir Ji Thank you for your warm apprec...   Jul 27 2006, 11:15 PM
ashgupta3   Just realised that a longish post by Anupama is l...   Jul 28 2006, 12:43 AM
ashgupta3   Madhavi ji :bow: :bow: I have been watching this ...   Jul 27 2006, 09:13 PM
cinemaniac2   super thread Madhavi :clap1: :clap2: excellent j...   Jul 27 2006, 09:49 PM
bawlachintu   Saja dene ka niral tarika: Hum moond ke palkon ko...   Jul 28 2006, 09:47 PM
mmuk2004   Saja dene ka niral tarika: Hum moond ke palkon k...   Jul 28 2006, 09:59 PM
mmuk2004   Gumrah (1963) The siren call of illicit desires… ...   Jul 31 2006, 03:36 AM
mmuk2004   "Gumrah", the lost ones who are brought ...   Jul 31 2006, 03:44 AM
ashgupta3   Penned by the volatile, rebellious Sahir who alwa...   Aug 2 2006, 04:40 AM
Talaikya   Coming up shortly... and here it is. Consider it a...   Jul 31 2006, 04:25 AM
bawlachintu   Gumrah, a real alag-hatke story. Love-triangle.......   Jul 31 2006, 09:34 AM
cinemaniac2   great Madhavi-keep it up-we need more like u but ...   Aug 2 2006, 12:01 AM
cinemaniac2   non related there is a dmuk -usually posts in KK...   Aug 7 2006, 10:52 PM
ashgupta3   Just posting lyric of a song so that this thread m...   Aug 7 2006, 10:57 PM
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