Guru,Rafi saab,Lataji,Asha ji has sung so many songs in this language.
So,lets start a class on teaching this language.Believe me its a very very easy language 2 pick up.
js

Yaa... my introduction to this language started with...

Roshgulloh bishon meetha

I am for it

N

Its,

rosogolla bhisan mishti

Mishti means sweet

N

Usually the first Bengali phrase one learns is "Ami tomakey bhalo-baashi".

Ye lo Unni learns all the right phrases!! I am hope you use it on the right person

N

Starting with Bipasha.

UNNI?????????????????? Bips??????????????

Grrrrrrrrrrrrr what happened to MS??

I thought u were fida over her??

tch tch!! Iss rang badalti duniya mein.. insaan ki neeyat...

With all the posters being featured in HF, it's become difficult to remain loyal.

So many women. So little time.

"Kaathalikka Neramillai". Or should that go into the Tamil thread?

Lo karlo baat.. Blame it on the WP thread hahahaha

Ok, we are moving away from the real discussion of this thread :E

Btw is there any site where english can be translated to bengali and vice versa!!

N ?

task for 2day.Tell me what is meant here.Specially for UNNI.

BANGALI MEYERA KHUB SUNDARI HOY

PLZ, don't disturb me - i'm trying to learn English

"Bengali girls are very beautiful"

Don't I know. I was born and bred in Calcutta.

*Thud* Unni I didnt know that !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

N

I'll be very much present here jayantda .....

Have not heard many of GURU's bengali numbers ....

But now this section will help me in learning BENGALI

rgds,

Hey,,,,,,,,Not sure....whether this is like "Waking up a sleeping gaint" or something...A post coming into this thread after ages, I suppose....But I'm also interested in Learning Bengali.......Actually me interested in learning lots of new languages......like that very much.......So thought........why not start off with Bengali........will also begin on others soon enough........So........Any takers for a new student out here???? Do reply!!!!!!

dun forget abt other legends like

BEGUM AKHTAR
MEHDI HASSAN
MUKESH
TALAT MEHMOOD

GK ji, believe it or not (I mean - pleeeease believe it ), I spent one full year at the Bongo Bhasha Proshar Shomiti learning Bangla JUST (and I mean JUSSSST) to understand Kishore-da's Bengali songs. Believe me, the trouble was well worth it.

Wow!!!! Mandrake.....that was One Helluva effort!!!! Hope I make some progress atleast......with my learning of Bengali out here.........Sure the sweet language's gonna come well in handy.......Excitedly waiting for someone to 'start' the teaching!!!!

I mean......I dunno whether I'll enough time to go to classes........definitely will give it a thought......as and when I get a bit free.......But......as of now......looking for a decent start here at HF.....

BENGLA is the second sweetest language after FRENCH

Hmmm......So...the classes for the second sweetest language....not yet begun......Still waiting!!!!

So let's begin somewhere!

Aami tomaar bondhu (I am your friend)

Tumi aamaar bondhu (You are my friend)

Aami taar (t is soft) bondhu (I am his/her friend)

Mandrake when did you learn bengali?!?!?!?

N

Amon toh aami shikhechhi, kintu bhalo boltey paari na... practice jey neyi aamaake
(That way, I have learnt, but cannot speak it well... don't have enough practice)

Nimii, spent a solid year studying Bangla (also acted in a Bengali play in front of an all-bengali crowd). Joined the course JUST to understand what Kishore was singing so beautifully.

WOW THAT IS GREAT MANDRAKE!! To understand GURU songs u actually spent a year learning Bangla! AMAZING!

HATS OFF TO YOU

n

Wow!!!! Mandrake.......thanks for starting off my lessons in Bengali.....YES.... Tumi Aamaar Bondhu!!!!! Excitedly awaiting the next lessons!!!!!!

well...

how about starting the day with..

Aaj Shokalta Ki Shundor... meaning the morning is so wonderful today
Dorja ( Door)
Janla( Windows)

see u got to know some words in bengali

WOW....Good progress.....Bhalo Bhalo.....(does that mean nice???) HEHE.....Just trying my hand at something new.......please contniue the classes.....

Bhalo is 'good'.
Bheeshon bhalo is 'very good'.
GK ji, let me point out something interesting (to me):
Bheeshon is the same word that is 'bheeshan' in marathi.
But in marathi, 'bheeshan' has a very negative shadow.
'Bheeshan' is used as 'horrible'. 'Bheeshan apaghaat' is 'horrible accident'.
But in Bangla, bheeshon is used with good words, as in 'bheeshon shundor' - very beautiful.
A word-to-word translation of 'bheeshon shundor' in marathi would be 'horribly beautiful'

Hey!!!! That is so very different usage of the same word in two different languages .......from two different extremes (West and East) of the same country.......Really surprising to note the same word used both in a very positive sense as well as a negative term....Guess what would be the case if Sundar (Shundor) might have carried some other meaning in Marathi!!!!

Ehhh Bondhu......Kee Korche??? Where are the next lessons?????

Amaar Bondhu??? Where are you???? (Great rhyming na???? I must try my hand at Bengali Poetry!!!! )
Next lessons long pending....(this is not Bheeshon Bhaalo.....)

OK GKS, here you go:

Aami thaaki = I stay/live

Aami Kolkaataay thaaki = I live in Kolkata
Aami Mumbaitey thaaki = I live in Mumbai
Aami Bangalorey thaaki = I live in Bangalore

The rule is simple:
Names ending in 'aa' will have an 'aay' as suffix (pronounced like the letter 'I')
Names ending in 'ee' will have 'tey' as suffix (soft 'tey' as in rishtey/naatey)
Names ending in 'uh' (as in Bangalore/Nagpur/Gangtok) will have 'ey' as suffix (same 'ey' as in risht-ey/naat-ey)

So where do you live?

Ayyo I remember Guru song thaaki o thaaki o thaaki thaaki re ..(Bappida mewjick )

N

Oh WOWWW!!!! My first Bangla Grammar lessons!!! Thanks so much Mandrake!!! Good going..... Bheeshon Bhaalo...

Btw.....Aami Mumbaitey Thaaki

Tumi Pan Mumbaitey Thaaki na?? (I know first two words are Marathi......couldn't get that sentence in a better manner... ) But this is how I plan to learn.....by trying out.....(the permutation-combination technique;)) So....keep correcting me.....and start giving more regular lessons...(as today)


And Nimmi.....going by your post on Guru's song.....and Mandrake's translation.......it should mean...."Live..O..Live.....O Live Live..(Re)"??? (Or was it something to do with the philosophical context of 'Live and Let Live' ????

Does any1 know what is the SCRIPT(lipi) of BENGLA language?

i have asked many educated ppl they were confused.
link would be appreciated.

HR ji, Bangla uses the Bramhi script. This is very common in the eastern states. Bramhi (pronounced 'braamhi') comes from Bramha, the god. In the same region is the Mighty river Bramhaputra.
It might interest you to know (or you may already know it), that Burma was formerly Bramhadesh.
The eastern part of India was Bramha's territory. That's why the rare (I guess one and only) Bramha temple in Pushkar, Rajasthan evokes so much surprise.

GKS, you'll be surprised you are almost right.
Tumi = you (so you were correct here)
For also, the word is 'o'.
Tumi o thaako.

Aami mumbaitey thaaki.
Tumi mumbaitey thaako
Shey mumbaitey thaakey (shey rhymes with they - shey is he/she)

Aamraa thaaken (we) (...ken rhymes with 'men')
Tomraa thaaken (you plural)
shey thaaken (they)

Oh wow!!!! This seems to be a very interesting language.....I'm enjoying every moment of my learning experience....

So....Mandrake Bondhu, Tumi O Mumbaitey Thaako?
Humble_Rafi Delhitey Thaaki....

Delhi Bhaalo Shahar.....Mumbai Bheeshon Bhaalo Shahar???

(My experiments with Truth....er.....the Permutation-Combination technique continues..... )

Good going GKS
But HR is he=shey
so HR thaaki nahi, thaake

Oh yes.....Sorry....I forgot that 'shey' rule.... ...... HF Delhitey Thakey..

Btw......was that sentence on the 'bhaalo shahar right in any way???

Yes, the 'bhaalo shahar' was fine
That also brings to mind the brevity of bangla grammer.
It is a good city - english
woh achchha shahar hai - hindi
tey changley shahar aahe - marathi
shey bhaalo shahar - bangla

see how they do away with 'is'. Often, bangla sentences sound clipped, because of this economy of words. However, one is always free to use the longer sentence.

Aamar baadi bodo aachhe (My house big is)
Tomaar baadi? Bodo, ki chhoto?

Aamar baadi Chhoto aache.... Chhoto O Shundor!!!!

Time to move ahead

o = also
aar = and

perhaps u meant chhoto aar shundor?

bangla bhaasha bodo mishti, bodo shundor.
Porontu 'practice' chaaee. (needed)

Yes......What I wanted to mean was 'Small, but beautiful too.....'......or 'small & beautiful'....And with the existing list of words I had learnt from you....the 'closest' I could get was 'Small, ALSO Beautiful' (Chhoto O Shundor) Hehehehe.....But I knew you would very well understand my problem on reading it.... hehehe Didn't know the word for "AND"......and Mishti means Sweet, I guess?

Khoob Practice Chaaee....

You are getting better, and how
mishti = sweet , that's right.

Remember a simple pronunciation rule:
when 2 'o' come in a word (bodo), the first o is pronounced as in 'clock', and the second as in 'cloak'.
Come to think of it, all o's that are second vowels go the way of 'cloak'.
Shundor, bheeshon...
getting it?

(Hey some real Bongo bondhus pls take over from here )

GKS - how will u pronounce 'bongo' and 'bondhu' now?

Wow!!!! Great going!!! Today seems to be my marathon day in leanring Bangla....Maximum learning today!!! Thanks...and keep it coming....

I guess in Bongo...the first 'O' will go the way of clock and the second (the one after G...) will go the way of cloak.....Hence...Pronunciation very similar to 'Bodo'..... Will be Bongo...(the way we pronounce the percussion instrument of the same name... )

Bondhu...well.....has only one 'O'...which also happens to be the first vowel.....hence......will go the 'clock' way... .......

Aami barobar aache???

Eehh Bondhu??? Kee Korche??? Bangla Forum Khoob Chupp Aache....???