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post Mar 23 2005, 04:26 PM
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QUOTE(roy_bachnoe @ Mar 23 2005, 12:28 PM)
Sharad Bhai,

Don't you have any titles of those songs ?
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QUOTE(Sharad @ Mar 23 2005, 11:16 AM)
There are also Rafi songs from movie SUPERMAN!

how can we get those!
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1: Dil ki halat jan gaye

2. Thodi goi hein

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post Mar 23 2005, 04:30 PM
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QUOTE(suhana_safar @ Mar 23 2005, 03:54 PM)
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Dear Music Lover,

The song is most probably from Film Zimbo Ki Beti.(59)...........It starts as"Duniya Chala Chali Ka Mela.......Do Din Ki Zindagi Hai..is it?


Zimbo Ki Beti 59..........Duniya Chala Chali Ka Mela........Do Din Ki Zindagi Hai......... ...........By Mohd.Rafi   Record No. N 53216.Please confirm further
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The upload doesn't have "duniya chala chali". Does the Geetkosh say anything about this movie?
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I am quite certain the song is from Jeevan Chaya which was released in mid 50's and not in mid 40's as mentioned by someone.


JIMBO KI BETI (1959)
NAAZI, SAMAR ROY, MANJU,. TUNTUN, HEERA SAWANT
Music By: PREM

The above details were taken by a website some time back.
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Dear Music lover,

The song from jeevan chaya is Do Din ki zindagi Hai Do Din Ka tamasha Hai
where as this song is do din ki zindagi hai do din ki zindagi hai.The starting doha may be missing from zimbo ki beti because most of the records were made without
starting doha in the film.Also the sound of rafi does not match of 46,47 the release of jeevan chaya.The above information of Zimbo Ki Beti is given in geet kosh


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post Mar 23 2005, 05:03 PM
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QUOTE(Flex001 @ Mar 23 2005, 01:52 AM)
QUOTE(Guest @ Mar 22 2005, 10:05 PM)
The song is from film Zimbo Ki Beti(59)
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I couldn't find this film on the EarthMusic website. However, it threw up some other films with equally funky names:

Hatim Tai Ki Beti

Zimbo Comes To Town

and my fav.....

Zimbo Finds a Son

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AND WHAT ABOUT "ROCKET TARZAN"

Rafisab has ctaually sung in a film with this name.


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post Mar 24 2005, 06:54 AM
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QUOTE(dharmvir @ Mar 23 2005, 04:00 AM)
QUOTE(suhana_safar @ Mar 23 2005, 03:54 PM)
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QUOTE(dharmvir @ Mar 22 2005, 03:22 AM)
Dear Music Lover,

The song is most probably from Film Zimbo Ki Beti.(59)...........It starts as"Duniya Chala Chali Ka Mela.......Do Din Ki Zindagi Hai..is it?


Zimbo Ki Beti 59..........Duniya Chala Chali Ka Mela........Do Din Ki Zindagi Hai......... ...........By Mohd.Rafi  Record No. N 53216.Please confirm further
dharmvir

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The upload doesn't have "duniya chala chali". Does the Geetkosh say anything about this movie?
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I am quite certain the song is from Jeevan Chaya which was released in mid 50's and not in mid 40's as mentioned by someone.


JIMBO KI BETI (1959)
NAAZI, SAMAR ROY, MANJU,. TUNTUN, HEERA SAWANT
Music By: PREM

The above details were taken by a website some time back.
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Dear Music lover,

The song from jeevan chaya is Do Din ki zindagi Hai Do Din Ka tamasha Hai
where as this song is do din ki zindagi hai do din ki zindagi hai.The starting doha may be missing from zimbo ki beti because most of the records were made without
starting doha in the film.Also the sound of rafi does not match of 46,47 the release of jeevan chaya.The above information of Zimbo Ki Beti is given in geet kosh
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post Mar 24 2005, 09:42 AM
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I had seen the zimbo ki beti entry but discarded it as the song as per geet kosh

goes like this

duniya chala chali ka mela......do din ki chandni hai


I don't think the other wordings match

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QUOTE(cinemaniac2 @ Mar 23 2005, 09:12 PM)
I had seen the zimbo ki beti entry but discarded it as the song as per geet kosh

goes like this

duniya chala chali ka mela......do din ki chandni hai


I don't think the other wordings match

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...and so the quest continues
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post Mar 24 2005, 12:03 PM
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QUOTE(hits @ Mar 24 2005, 09:44 AM)
QUOTE(cinemaniac2 @ Mar 23 2005, 09:12 PM)
I had seen the zimbo ki beti entry but discarded it as the song as per geet kosh

goes like this

duniya chala chali ka mela......do din ki chandni hai


I don't think the other wordings match

cinemaniac2
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...and so the quest continues
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Dear Music Lover,
As per Hindi Film Geet Kosh Part 3(51-60) by Harminder Singh Hamaaz Page 503 Film No.1006 Zimbo Ki beti the wording given of song is Duniya Chala Chali Ka Mela---Do Din Ki Zindagi Hai...and not do din ki chandni as shown in your geet kosh(I may write here that the geet kosh published by Harminder Singh Hamraaz of Kanpur Vol1-5) are the most accurate. I dont know which geet kosh you have which shows dodin ki chandni hai.
Now you may be knowing that in the past most of the thematic songs started with a doha(2 lines of a starting song) and the main song followed and in my record I have hundreds of songs in which there was a starting doha in the film but the same was not availabe on records and casettes.In Jeevan Chaya the wording written in the geet kosh is Do din ki zindagi hai..do din ka tamasha hai.Which I think do not match .
The film Jeevan Chaya was also released in 1945 as the Name "Kul KalanK" and singers were mumtaz begam,lalit parulkar,rajkumari,ameerbai and also Rafi.The Same film was re released as Jeevan Chaya 1946. If the song is from Jeevan Chaya them the words in the catalouge Do din ka tamasha hai should be wrong.
On hearing rafi songs the sound seems to matching the period 51-60.And as the starting para is absent in many songs on records and casettes so I think that the song is from Zimbo Ki Beti.I also have this song already in my collection and the name of film written was Zimbo ki beti.

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post Mar 24 2005, 09:01 PM
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QUOTE(dharmvir @ Mar 23 2005, 11:33 PM)
QUOTE(cinemaniac2 @ Mar 23 2005, 09:12 PM)

I had seen the zimbo ki beti entry but discarded it as
the song as per geet kosh goes like this

duniya chala chali ka mela......do din ki chandni hai

I don't think the other wordings match

cinemaniac2
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Dear Music Lover,
As per Hindi Film Geet Kosh Part 3(51-60) by Harminder Singh Hamaaz
Page 503 Film No.1006 Zimbo Ki beti the wording given of song is Duniya Chala
Chali Ka Mela---Do Din Ki Zindagi Hai...and not do din ki chandni as shown in
your geet kosh(I may write here that the geet kosh published by Harminder Singh
Hamraaz of Kanpur Vol1-5) are the most accurate. I dont know which geet kosh
you have which shows dodin ki chandni hai.
......
......
On hearing rafi songs the sound seems to matching the period 51-60.And as the starting para is absent in many songs on records and casettes so I think that the song is from Zimbo Ki Beti.I also have this song already in my collection and the name of film written was Zimbo ki beti.

Thanks
dharmvir
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My version of the Geetkosh also said chaandni and not zindagi. HOwever, I have
an older version of it. I know that Hamraazji had re-released the GK of the 50s
with a lot of corrections/changes and I assumed that this was one he corrected.
Anyway, if Dharamvir has the song in his collection saying that it is "Zimbo ki
beTi", I think that is independent confirmation. So methinks the quest has ended.
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QUOTE(suhana_safar @ Mar 23 2005, 05:03 PM)

AND WHAT ABOUT "ROCKET TARZAN"

Rafisab has ctaually sung in a film with this name.
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By any chance was there a second part called Pocket Tarzan? tongue.gif

Who starred in RT?

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QUOTE(Flex001 @ Mar 24 2005, 09:09 PM)
QUOTE(suhana_safar @ Mar 23 2005, 05:03 PM)

AND WHAT ABOUT "ROCKET TARZAN"

Rafisab has ctaually sung in a film with this name.
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By any chance was there a second part called Pocket Tarzan? tongue.gif

Who starred in RT?
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dears,
Rocket Tqarjan 63..Inderjeet.Shanti,Rajan Kapoor,Nilofat Music dir.Robin Banerjeee
Songs
Ya Rabba Ho..Suman Kalyanpur
Aa Ja mere Humjuban...................Rafi ?
Hum Tumko Mana Rahe Hai.............Rafi?
Unko Humse badi shikayat............Suman
Raj Ki Bat Hai..................?
Anjuman Sitaron Ki....Suman +

Not so good songs to be discussed here I think. No.2&3 are by rafi as reported by
Robin Banerjee


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QUOTE(sangeetbhakt @ Mar 24 2005, 08:31 AM)
QUOTE(dharmvir @ Mar 23 2005, 11:33 PM)
QUOTE(cinemaniac2 @ Mar 23 2005, 09:12 PM)

I had seen the zimbo ki beti entry but discarded it as
the song as per geet kosh goes like this

duniya chala chali ka mela......do din ki chandni hai

I don't think the other wordings match

cinemaniac2
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Dear Music Lover,
As per Hindi Film Geet Kosh Part 3(51-60) by Harminder Singh Hamaaz
Page 503 Film No.1006 Zimbo Ki beti the wording given of song is Duniya Chala
Chali Ka Mela---Do Din Ki Zindagi Hai...and not do din ki chandni as shown in
your geet kosh(I may write here that the geet kosh published by Harminder Singh
Hamraaz of Kanpur Vol1-5) are the most accurate. I dont know which geet kosh
you have which shows dodin ki chandni hai.
......
......
On hearing rafi songs the sound seems to matching the period 51-60.And as the starting para is absent in many songs on records and casettes so I think that the song is from Zimbo Ki Beti.I also have this song already in my collection and the name of film written was Zimbo ki beti.

Thanks
dharmvir
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My version of the Geetkosh also said chaandni and not zindagi. HOwever, I have
an older version of it. I know that Hamraazji had re-released the GK of the 50s
with a lot of corrections/changes and I assumed that this was one he corrected.
Anyway, if Dharamvir has the song in his collection saying that it is "Zimbo ki
beTi", I think that is independent confirmation. So methinks the quest has ended.
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Zimbo Ki Beti it is, Dharmvir
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QUOTE(Flex001 @ Mar 24 2005, 08:39 AM)
QUOTE(suhana_safar @ Mar 23 2005, 05:03 PM)

AND WHAT ABOUT "ROCKET TARZAN"

Rafisab has ctaually sung in a film with this name.
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By any chance was there a second part called Pocket Tarzan? tongue.gif

Who starred in RT?
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http://www.searchamovie.com/fr/ROCKETTARZAN(1963).htm
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QUOTE(hits @ Mar 25 2005, 09:47 AM)
QUOTE(Flex001 @ Mar 24 2005, 08:39 AM)
QUOTE(suhana_safar @ Mar 23 2005, 05:03 PM)

AND WHAT ABOUT "ROCKET TARZAN"

Rafisab has ctaually sung in a film with this name.
*



By any chance was there a second part called Pocket Tarzan? tongue.gif

Who starred in RT?
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http://www.searchamovie.com/fr/ROCKETTARZAN(1963).htm
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Dears,

There was no release named Pocket Tarzen the information at the given url is
for Rocket Tarzen but the name shown is Pocket Tarzen.According to Geet Kosh of Harminder Haraaj it is Rocket Tarzen

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QUOTE(dharmvir @ Mar 24 2005, 11:33 PM)
Dears,

There was no release named Pocket Tarzen the information at the given url is
for Rocket Tarzen but the name shown is Pocket Tarzen.According to Geet Kosh of Harminder Haraaj it is Rocket Tarzen

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Dharvir-ji:

'suhana_safar' was just kidding and you fell right into his trap! blab.gif

Anyway, for all you guys who use the Geet Kosh as your reference. How does one go about getting a copy of it? Last time I checked the site, the book was "sold-out" and cyclostyled copies were being provided. Is it available now in India in book form?



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AND WHAT ABOUT "TARZAN AUR HERCULES"

2 RAFI DUETS IN THIS FILM camera.gif


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