Did Rafi Saab Sing A Couple Of Pakistani Songs, Around 1963?? Options

[venkat]

Definitely not Rafi. Ahmed Rushdi was a pale imitation. I'm not a Rafi fan, but have to admit the man knew his stuff backwards! If he had taken this very song and sung it, he would have added so much depth to it.

unrelated to the topic.....n probably inappropriate here.......but if rafi new his stuff backwards...and cuddav added much more depth to the song......why dont u like rafi/r not a rafi fan ?

Hey BTM

Thats not a yes/no question

I guess the reason I'm not a Rafi fan is because he has a pronounced Punjabi accent. Having lived in Punjab for the first half of my life and seen many punjabi singers on PTV consciously or unconsciously imitate Rafi, I grew a bit weary of the voice/style of singing.

A Shamshad or Zohrabai may also have suggested a punjabi accent in singing urdu/hindi songs. But they were not copied nearly as much. But, that does not detract from his obvious ability as a singer.

Oh, go home, brother!

You and I are peanuts before the maestro MD, Shankar. Read his views and introspect. I have respect for you, otherwise, as a music-lover!

Attaching Shankar's interview.



This post has been edited by venkat: Jul 1 2009, 08:10 PM

[myawan]

Definitely not Rafi. Ahmed Rushdi was a pale imitation. I'm not a Rafi fan, but have to admit the man knew his stuff backwards! If he had taken this very song and sung it, he would have added so much depth to it.

unrelated to the topic.....n probably inappropriate here.......but if rafi new his stuff backwards...and cuddav added much more depth to the song......why dont u like rafi/r not a rafi fan ?

Hey BTM

Thats not a yes/no question

I guess the reason I'm not a Rafi fan is because he has a pronounced Punjabi accent. Having lived in Punjab for the first half of my life and seen many punjabi singers on PTV consciously or unconsciously imitate Rafi, I grew a bit weary of the voice/style of singing.

A Shamshad or Zohrabai may also have suggested a punjabi accent in singing urdu/hindi songs. But they were not copied nearly as much. But, that does not detract from his obvious ability as a singer.

Dear I've lived whole of my life in Punjab and believe me Rafi's accent is very very clear without any deviation towards certain regional language.

[behenji.turned.mod]

i had to go stir a hornetz nest eh

faraaj....of course...personal preferences kii baat alagh hai.....ppl trying to emulate his style seems to have done in ur liking for rafi.....but if its just that...irritation for others copying him....ud let sumthing like that take away from ur enjoyment of his art...?

[venkat]

Definitely not Rafi. Ahmed Rushdi was a pale imitation. I'm not a Rafi fan, but have to admit the man knew his stuff backwards! If he had taken this very song and sung it, he would have added so much depth to it.

unrelated to the topic.....n probably inappropriate here.......but if rafi new his stuff backwards...and cuddav added much more depth to the song......why dont u like rafi/r not a rafi fan ?

Hey BTM

Thats not a yes/no question

I guess the reason I'm not a Rafi fan is because he has a pronounced Punjabi accent. Having lived in Punjab for the first half of my life and seen many punjabi singers on PTV consciously or unconsciously imitate Rafi, I grew a bit weary of the voice/style of singing.

A Shamshad or Zohrabai may also have suggested a punjabi accent in singing urdu/hindi songs. But they were not copied nearly as much. But, that does not detract from his obvious ability as a singer.

Dear I've lived whole of my life in Punjab and believe me Rafi's accent is very very clear without any deviation towards certain regional language.

Yusuf,

I also love his other formulation, namely, whichever singer is copied/imitated/emulated is not to be liked!!!!

Venkat

[rafisahab]

venkatji,
thanks for bringing the two songs to the attention of many rafi sahab fans to this singer ahmed rushdi sahab. I have never heard of his name before and in the two songs there is a striking similarity to rafi sahab's 50's/60's voice. have googled/wikipedied about rushdi sahab and listened to one of his songs from mid 70's naseeb apna apna which apparently won awards, in this rushdi sahab sounds very different and no where near rafisahab, so it was the early years there was that similarity, rushdi saab also died at a very young age of 44, April 24, 1938 – April 11, 1983.

[prakashs]

But, the point is that I have listened to at least 5 or 6 of Ahmed Rushdi's other songs just now and his performance in those 5 or 6 other songs is quite different and not exactly like Rafi Saab.

I heard the song .. and its NOT Rafi sahab.

He goes off the surr when he sings "koi na tumsa dekha" ... at 2:48

Ahmed Rushdie often went out of sur in his songs

[asjad_101]

Dear friends this is on record that Ahmed Rushdi never coppied Rafi or any other singer. When Ahmed Rushdi started his career in 1950, Rafi sab himself singing in KL Sehgal's style. I have been reading this argument that Rushdi coppies Rafi, that is not true and i assure you that. I am posting Rushdi's song,plz listen and then decide.Ahmed Rushdi live

[asjad_101]

Ahmed Rushdi is a great voice of south asia and this is very unfortunate to declair him a mimic of some one.Ahmed Rushdi was famously known as 'Magician of Voice' and 'Master of Stage'. Rafi sab is no doubt a great singer but sir vikant has no right to say something negative about Rushdi. He must listen to Rushdi's songs first then comment upon.I am a big fan of Rafi also but this is an established fact that Ahmed Rushdi has no competition in singing talents other than Rafi.Some people who dont have respect for legends and out of their sheer bias attitude are trying to undermine Rushdi's importance.Once great music director Nisar Bazmi said that Mohammad Rafi and Ahmed Rushdi are amongst those few singers of south asia who have their own unique styles and their voice cannot form 'cones' as they touch heigher notes.Once in an interview Rafi sab praised Ahmed Rushdi because of his uniqueness.Thanks

This post has been edited by asjad_101: Nov 11 2009, 04:47 PM

[asjad_101]

venkatji,
thanks for bringing the two songs to the attention of many rafi sahab fans to this singer ahmed rushdi sahab. I have never heard of his name before and in the two songs there is a striking similarity to rafi sahab's 50's/60's voice. have googled/wikipedied about rushdi sahab and listened to one of his songs from mid 70's naseeb apna apna which apparently won awards, in this rushdi sahab sounds very different and no where near rafisahab, so it was the early years there was that similarity, rushdi saab also died at a very young age of 44, April 24, 1938 – April 11, 1983.

Ahmed Rushdi sahab had his own famous style of singing.The song you are mentioning from Film Naseeb Apna Apna was released in 1969 and this is a very difficult song to sing.Rushdi sahab never copied Rafi sahab at any stage.Ahmed Rushdi's songs and singing style is being copied by many Indian singers.I have a lot of respect for Mohammad Rafi and Ahmed Rushdi and I expect same out of others.This is a stupid elegation that Rushdi copied Rafi.You listen his first song"Bander road se Kemari"(1954) to his last song "Ban ke Misra ghazal ka"(1983),no similarities will be there between Rafi sahab and Rushdi sahab.Just listen to this famous song Rushdi sahab sang in 1966.Thanks
Versatile Ahmed Rushdi sings for great Waheed Murad

[asjad_101]

Ahmed Rushdi had a very unique voice.He never copied Rafi sahab or any other singer.Rushdi sahab is famously known as "Magician of Voice" and "Master of Stage".Many singers from India and Pakistan tried to copy him.So plz cut this crap out.Ahmed Rushdi's career spanned over three decades and he has recorded the highest number of film songs in the history of Pakistani cinema.He had a sweet and melodious voice and any resemblence with any singer is just a coinsidence.Rafi and Rushdi never copied each other.


I guess the reason I'm not a Rafi fan is because he has a pronounced Punjabi accent. Having lived in Punjab for the first half of my life and seen many punjabi singers on PTV consciously or unconsciously imitate Rafi, I grew a bit weary of the voice/style of singing.

A Shamshad or Zohrabai may also have suggested a punjabi accent in singing urdu/hindi songs. But they were not copied nearly as much. But, that does not detract from his obvious ability as a singer.
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This post has been edited by asjad_101: Nov 12 2009, 06:16 PM

[asjad_101]

Dear friends,

Can someone clarify the above query of mine?

I have raised this query because I have some evidence of it, but still am not 100% sure!!!

Venkat

Ahmed Rushdi sahab had his own famous style of singing.Rushdi sahab never copied Rafi sahab at any stage.Ahmed Rushdi's songs and singing style is being copied by many Indian singers.I have a lot of respect for Mohammad Rafi and Ahmed Rushdi and I expect same out of others.When Ahmed Rushdi sahab started his singing career in 1950,at that time Rafi sahab himself was singing in KL Sehgal's style.This is a stupid elegation that Rushdi copied Rafi.You listen his first song"Bander road se Kemari"(1954) to his last song "Ban ke Misra ghazal ka"(1983),no similarities will be there between Rafi sahab and Rushdi sahab.Any resebmlence is a coinsidence.Just listen to this famous song Rushdi sahab sang in 1966.Thanks

Versatile Ahmed Rushdi Sings for Great Waheed Murad

[asjad_101]

Dear friends,

Can someone clarify the above query of mine?

I have raised this query because I have some evidence of it, but still am not 100% sure!!!

Venkat

Ahmed Rushdi sahab had his own famous style of singing.Rushdi sahab never copied Rafi sahab at any stage.Ahmed Rushdi's songs and singing style is being copied by many Indian singers.I have a lot of respect for Mohammad Rafi and Ahmed Rushdi and I expect same out of others.When Ahmed Rushdi sahab started his singing career in 1950,at that time Rafi sahab himself was singing in KL Sehgal's style.This is a stupid elegation that Rushdi copied Rafi.You listen his first song"Bander road se Kemari"(1954) to his last song "Ban ke Misra ghazal ka"(1983),no similarities will be there between Rafi sahab and Rushdi sahab.Any resebmlence is a coinsidence.Just listen to this famous song Rushdi sahab sang in 1966.Thanks

Versatile Ahmed Rushdi Sings for Great Waheed Murad

[myawan]

Dear Asjad sahab, ofcourse Ahmed Rushdi is the biggest name in the Pakistani film industry when it comes to playback singing......but did you read what he said upon death of Rafi sahab?????

[myawan]

Dear Asjad sahab, ofcourse Ahmed Rushdi is the biggest name in the Pakistani film industry when it comes to playback singing......but did you read what he said upon death of Rafi sahab?????

Ahmed Rushdi said: "Main bachpan hi se Rafi sahab ka fan tha, aor aik waqt aisa aaya jab main khud singer bana to woh meray ideal ban gaye."

[asjad_101]

[quote name='myawan' date='Dec 29 2009, 02:41 PM' post='646088']
[quote name='myawan' post='645972' date='Dec 28 2009, 11:07 PM']
Dear Asjad sahab, ofcourse Ahmed Rushdi is the biggest name in the Pakistani film industry when it comes to playback singing......but did you read what he said upon death of Rafi sahab?????
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My sweet myawn sahab; Copying sumone is a different thing and declairing sumbody his favourate is a separate story.On Mukesh death in 1976 Rafi ahab said'' Mera ideal aaj iss dunya ko chor gaya ''.
It was only a complimemt but it does not mean that Rafi was copying Mukesh.Same is the case with Rushdi sahab.He only expressed his feelings.And as far as this 'Bachpan ka fan' is concerned,Rushdi sahab started his career in late 1940s and at that time Rafi himself was struggling.All these names are great and every one had his own style.Like Kishore sang a Rafi song in order to pay him a tribute.It doesnt mean that Kishore is a imitation of Rafi.Lastly kindly produced that interview of Ahmed Rushdi.Thanks