Shooting Stars Of Hindi Film Music, A tribute to the lesser known music composers... |
Shooting Stars Of Hindi Film Music, A tribute to the lesser known music composers... |
HumTum |
Feb 20 2008, 08:34 AM
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Starting this new series "Shooting Stars of Hindi Film Music". This thread would be handling the lesser known music directors who gave us great compositions but were hardly known or spoken of while discussing music. As is the usual practice, we often tend to discuss well known composers and their music and these forgotten composers have practically been erased off the book of Hindi film music. I am amazed how many such composers have been missed out when we music lovers discussed music. A fleeting glance at the databases on the net made me wince in pain to notice that so many melodies we know were composed by these forgotten composers and I decided to work on collecting information and albums of these lesser known MDs.This thread would be our own small way to pay tributes to the music they gave us.
Friends please do join in to add your bit to this thread. Thank you. HT Lesser Known MDs : (This post will be updated regularly. Thanks to Erum Sis and Pinky Sis for their input on these Lesser Known Mds.) #1. Ajay-Vishwanath #2. Dhaniram - Refer thread - http://www.hamaraforums.com/index.php?s=&a...st&p=467944 #3. Ajay Merchant #4. Bipin-Babul - Refer thread - http://www.hamaraforums.com/index.php?s=&a...st&p=468816 #5. Kanu Roy - Refer thread - http://www.hamaraforums.com/index.php?s=&a...st&p=469594 #6 Anil-Arun - Refer Post - http://www.hamaraforums.com/index.php?s=&a...st&p=535158 This post has been edited by HumTum: Nov 4 2008, 08:51 PM |
HumTum |
Feb 20 2008, 09:11 AM
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First in one such series is Music composers AJAY VISHWANATH. I tried to gather more information, but all search went in vain. They probably have composed just this one album that dates back to 1974. This devotional movie Hanuman Vijay (1974) featuring a few known actors like Kanan Kaushal, has popular singers churning out melodies. Some of the names will definitely make us happy --- Mohd Rafi, Asha, Suman and Vani Jayaram.
To me it was worth my collections and I am sure it would be an added asset to yours too. Don't bother thanking me for this album, but atleast give a few minutes after downloading to listen to these songs and let it not just be another file in your folder of many such collections. I would then say it was worth all my effort to share them here. (a post note : The Rafi sahab songs were already uploaded on this board by Steve bhai on Mohd Rafi Forum. ) (Vcd) --- 160 kbps The lyricists are B.D. Mishra and Madan. Mohd Rafi --- Jai jai ram jai sri ram-1 --- 00:54 min Suman Kalyanpur --- Chanda ki sundarta chandan ki sheetalta --- 03:00 min Unknown voice --- Raam ke charan --- 00:53 min Asha Bhosle --- Haan kehde to laaj ka aanchal aaj hata doon --- 03:49 min Unknown voice --- Raam ke naina bhar bhar aaye --- 01:52 min Mohd Rafi --- Jai jai ram jai sri ram-2--- 05:36 min Suman Kalyanpur - Vani Jayaram --- Ambar ke neeche dharti --- 04:30 min Mohd Rafi --- Kaahe dhoondhe raam ko dharti gagan mein --- 04:08 min [appendix: Erum Sis just gave the details that they have composed for one more movie but alas an unreleased one. (aside that they are two people and not one person. ) QUOTE Quoting Erum Sis - JAAN BACHI LAAKHON PAAYE, an unreleased film from 60s having 6songs by RAFI, MAHENDER KAPOOR, MANNA DEY, SHARDA & KRISHNA KALLE! This post has been edited by HumTum: Feb 20 2008, 08:50 PM |
Sangeet |
Feb 20 2008, 09:58 AM
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Chanda ki sundarta chandan ki sheetalta part 2- Suman Kalyanpur Sangeet
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Obscure Albums of 60s/70s/80s/90s Random Obscure Tracks from 70s-90s Kavita K - Down The Years Need Info |
parag_sankla |
Feb 20 2008, 10:07 AM
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Starting this new series "Shooting Stars of Hindi Film Music". This thread would be handling the lesser known music directors who gave us great compositions but were hardly known or spoken of while discussing music. As is the usual practice, we often tend to discuss well known composers and their music and these forgotten composers have practically been erased off the book of Hindi film music. I am amazed how many such composers have been missed out when we music lovers discussed music. A fleeting glance at the databases on the net made me wince in pain to notice that so many melodies we know were composed by these forgotten composers and I decided to work on collecting information and albums of these lesser known MDs.This thread would be our own small way to pay tributes to the music they gave us. Friends please do join in to add your bit to this thread. Thank you. HT HT , thanks a lots for starting this special thread on such an unusual yet so imaginative and informative topic. I would be more than happy to add details on a few composers from the fifties if you like. Best Regards Parag Please visit www.geetadutt.com
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HarshBhatt |
Feb 20 2008, 10:20 AM
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Nice effort HumTum, keep up the good work
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Erum Hashmi |
Feb 20 2008, 03:03 PM
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First in one such series is Music composer AJAY VISHWANATH. I tried to gather more information, but all search went in vain. He probably has composed just this one album that dates back to 1974. This devotional movie Hanuman Vijay (1974) featuring a few known actors like Kanan Kaushal, has popular singers churning out melodies. Some of the names will definitely make us happy --- Mohd Rafi, Asha, Suman and Vani Jayaram. Bro, AJAY VISHWANATH are two people, AJAY & VISHWANATH! The only other film they did together is JAAN BACHI LAAKHON PAAYE, an unreleased film from 60s having 6songs by RAFI, MAHENDER KAPOOR, MANNA DEY, SHARDA & KRISHNA KALLE! woman is the mirror in which man sees the reflection of his own self, his own dormant and hidden powers of genius when she comes and stands before him A woman is a meaning to life ! Someone who loves, who cares ! |
HumTum |
Feb 20 2008, 08:48 PM
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First in one such series is Music composer AJAY VISHWANATH. I tried to gather more information, but all search went in vain. He probably has composed just this one album that dates back to 1974. This devotional movie Hanuman Vijay (1974) featuring a few known actors like Kanan Kaushal, has popular singers churning out melodies. Some of the names will definitely make us happy --- Mohd Rafi, Asha, Suman and Vani Jayaram. Bro, AJAY VISHWANATH are two people, AJAY & VISHWANATH! The only other film they did together is JAAN BACHI LAAKHON PAAYE, an unreleased film from 60s having 6songs by RAFI, MAHENDER KAPOOR, MANNA DEY, SHARDA & KRISHNA KALLE! Never found any info on them on the net Sis. Why did you not tell me last night? Anyway let me make the corrections accordingly. |
HumTum |
Feb 20 2008, 08:52 PM
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Starting this new series "Shooting Stars of Hindi Film Music". This thread would be handling the lesser known music directors who gave us great compositions but were hardly known or spoken of while discussing music. As is the usual practice, we often tend to discuss well known composers and their music and these forgotten composers have practically been erased off the book of Hindi film music. I am amazed how many such composers have been missed out when we music lovers discussed music. A fleeting glance at the databases on the net made me wince in pain to notice that so many melodies we know were composed by these forgotten composers and I decided to work on collecting information and albums of these lesser known MDs.This thread would be our own small way to pay tributes to the music they gave us. Friends please do join in to add your bit to this thread. Thank you. HT HT , thanks a lots for starting this special thread on such an unusual yet so imaginative and informative topic. I would be more than happy to add details on a few composers from the fifties if you like. Best Regards Parag Parag bhai please go ahead and add what you think is good for this thread. This thread is for all of us to give our tribute to these lesser known MDs. Thank you for your kind offer. |
HumTum |
Feb 20 2008, 08:53 PM
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Hari Ram |
Feb 20 2008, 09:05 PM
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HT bhai,
Congratulations for this much needed thread and best wishes. There is a movie named Romeo in Sikkim (1975) with music by Vishwanath. I don't if it is the same Vishwanath from the Ajay-Vishwanath team. Hari Ram |
HumTum |
Feb 22 2008, 09:46 AM
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HT bhai, Congratulations for this much needed thread and best wishes. There is a movie named Romeo in Sikkim (1975) with music by Vishwanath. I don't if it is the same Vishwanath from the Ajay-Vishwanath team. Hari Ram Thanks Hari Ram bhai. You are my inspiration. Vishwanath of Romeo in Sikkim... ummm... it could likely be him. From where I live, I do not get much literature except this internet and I was not able to avail any details. I will check other sites where they discuss Mds of yesteryears. Thank you once again. |
HumTum |
Feb 22 2008, 09:48 AM
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One more to add to our list is Dhani Ram. Erum sis has started a thread on this MD. We can get details from this thread. I have posted the link here.
http://www.hamaraforums.com/index.php?show...mp;#entry468063 (Thanks dear dear Sis. ) |
Erum Hashmi |
Feb 22 2008, 12:17 PM
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One more to add to our list is Dhani Ram. Erum sis has started a thread on this MD. We can get details from this thread. I have posted the link here. http://www.hamaraforums.com/index.php?show...mp;#entry468063 (Thanks dear dear Sis. ) You're always welcome, Bro! And thanks for starting such a nice thread! Please keep it up! woman is the mirror in which man sees the reflection of his own self, his own dormant and hidden powers of genius when she comes and stands before him A woman is a meaning to life ! Someone who loves, who cares ! |
pinky |
Feb 22 2008, 03:38 PM
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AJIT MERCHANT..a lesser known MD
Filmography Refugee(1948) Kariyawar(1948) Raj Kumari(1955) Indra leela(1956) Chandi pooja(1957) Ram bhakt vibhishan(1958) Sapera(1961) Challenge(1964) Lady killer(1958) A LISTENING SESSION ON A LESSER KNOWN MUSIC DIRECTOR – AJIT MERCHANT It must have been a year or more than that since I had been pursuing my desire to meet a living legend, Ajit Merchant. I came to know from the book by Prof. Yogesh Yadav on 150 Music Directors that he is living in Mumbai. From then on, I had been calling him on the number given by Prof. Yadav many a times. Unfortunately, due to his bad health the meeting never took place. I realized my dream of meeting Ajit Merchant on a Sunday, the 11th. Thanks to Dr. Madhav Rao, who had informed me about the event, where Ajit Merchant was coming as a Chief Guest. The occasion was forming of a new club for music lovers(My sincere apologies to Mumbaikars of the groups, that even though I was aware of the programme well in advance, in my anxiety to meet Ajit Merchant I forgot to post this in the Groups). One of the organisers was Subash Bhatt, who happens to be a record collector too. The venue was Gujarati Seva Mandal, located in Matunga. The Mandal is located inside a gully after passing through Kabutarkhana. I was a bit late in reaching the place. However, fortunately for me, the programme had not started. It so happened that the organizers had not expected these many people. There were some 70-75 individuals. I fortunately found seats very close to where all the VIP's were sitting. Ajit Merchant was there with his better half. So were Kishore Parekh, Prakash Purandare, Tarachand Savla, Jeetendra Gala and Gandhi Bhai. I could hardly find people of my age group. This has been a common feature of all events, which I am getting used to now. Anyhow, it was around 10:25 A.M. when the programme finally started. The chief guest, Ajit Merchant started the event, announcing the launch of the musical club `Geet Gunjan' in Gujarathi. I had a little bit trouble in understanding what he was saying. However, I could make out the name of Ardeshir Irani when he talked about `Alam Ara' and Music director Kersi Mistry. Then he talked about New Theatres famous personalities like K.C. Dey and R.C. Boral. He mentioned Zohrabai Ambalewali too and laterPankaj Mullick and Anil Biswas. After Ajit Merchant's foray into the past, there was an introduction of Ajit Merchant by Prakash Purandare. Ajit Merchant has given music in overall 45 films, in both Hindi and Gujarathi. He has been giving music for various stage plays in English, Marathi and Gujarathi too. Mr. Ajit Saraai, a writer by profession presented two books to Ajit Merchant. Later Mr. Ajit Saraai informed me that one of the books was on the plays of Shakespeare and the other on review of two films. Then it was time to listen to some songs, composed by Ajit Merchant. Subash Bhatt had compiled 20 songs especially for this event. I am listing the songs below serially. I am adding comments wherever there was a comment on the song. 1). Taraa Aankh No Afeeni Taraa Roop No Bandhaani Film Name: Deewar Daandi (Gujarathi) Singer/s: Dilip Dholakia Lyricist: Bal Mukund Dave 2). Vagdavacche Talaavadi Ne Film Name: Deewar Daandi (Gujarathi) Singer/s: Dilip Dholakia - Rohini Roy Lyricist: Bal Mukund Dave 3). Panchi Gaane Lage (Indra Leela) [Part One] Year: 1956 Singer/s: Mohammed Rafi Lyricist: Saraswati Kumar Deepak 4). Panchi Gaane Lage (Indra Leela) [Part Two] Year: 1956 Singer/s: Mohammed Rafi Lyricist: Saraswati Kumar Deepak 5). Parbhat Hat Jaa, Dharthi Fat Jaa (Indra Leela) Year: 1956 Singer/s: Asha Bhosle Lyricist: Saraswati Kumar Deepak ). Sun Lo Jiya Ki Baat (Indra Leela) Year: 1956 Singer/s: Asha Bhosle Lyricist: Saraswati Kumar Deepak 7). Purab Disa Ki Chanchal Badariya (Chandi Pooja) Year: 1957 Singer/s: Sudha Malhotra & Chorus Lyricist: Kavi Pradeep 8). Aji O Ji Kaho (Chandi Pooja) Year: 1957 Singer/s: Shamshad Begum – Mohammed Rafi Lyricist: Kavi Pradeep Then Prakash Purandare shared some unknown information about the song `Aye Mere Watan Ke Logon'. Kavi Pradeep wrote this song at Ajit Merchant's house during one of the visits. Prakash then asked two questions to Ajit Merchant. One was about the selection of Shamshad Begum for the duet and the other was about choosing a lyricist like Kavi Pradeep to sing a song for his film Chandi Pooja. Ajit Merchant answered the first question by saying that Shamshad Begum's voice suited the song hence she was taken. He went out further to state that Music directors did not have any say in the selection of singers. Further, he said that there was one more song of Shamshad Begum in this film, which was unfortunately, was not in Subash Bhatt's collection. This particular song `Ek Dharthi Ka Rajkumar' was a Radio Ceylon favourite. In fact, Gopal Sharma, an announcer with the station had said that if there was another children's song that was as popular as K.L. Saigal's `Ek Raaje Ke Beta Lekar' it was the Shamshad's song. Ajit Merchant answered the second question by saying that Kavi Pradeep was not averse to singing. He had been singing since his early days with New Theatres. He also informed that Kavi Pradeep and Ajit Merchant had an argument over the song `Koi Laakh Karein Chaturaayi'. Khayaal Gaayki inspired this song. 9). Suno Sunaao Tum Ek Kahaani (Chandi Pooja) Year: 1957 Singer/s: Kavi Pradeep Lyricist: Kavi Pradeep 10). Koi Laakh Karein Chaturaayi (Chandi Pooja) Year: 1957 Singer/s: Kavi Pradeep Lyricist: Kavi Pradeep Ajit Merchant informed us that out of the two instruments used in the song, Shehnaai and Majeera, Ramlal had played the Shehnaai. Then there was an announcement for an intermission. Most of the audiences were reluctant to go for a break. They were willing to sit out for the next one-hour or so. However, the organisers requested everyone to co-operate and since tea and light snacks was ordered for, it would be better if everybody had the same. I decided that I could make the best of this opportunity to meet Ajit Merchant and have a chat with him. Therefore, as soon as the crowd left for tea, I made my way gradually towards Ajit Merchant. Before meeting him, I decided to introduce myself to Subash Bhatt. He was pleased to know that I had come from Dombivli, which was according to him a sufficiently long distance. After that, I stood in the queue, which consisted of people wanting to talk with Ajit Merchant. Agreed that, others might wonder what was so special about meeting a lesser-known Music Director like him, but to me it was a pleasurable experience. He invited me to his house, now that he was feeling better. After meeting him, I went to have snacks and tea. There I met Jayanti Chheda. He has a shop in King's Circle by the name of `Musicraft'. Before I had finished my tea and returned, the post-interval part had already begun. The organisers introduced Nanjibhai Bahadur. He is an 86-year-old veteran Assistant Music Director. He had assisted Roshan, Anil Biswas & O.P. Nayyar to name a few. Along with that, he had sung as chorus for some legendary artists like Kundan. Lal. Saigal and Suraiyya. Nanjibhai Bahadur set the tunes to the popular `Bade Armaanon Se Rakha Hain Balam'. Bahadur had a good collection of English songs in the form of EP's and LP's. 11). Roop Tumhara Aankhon Se Piluun (Sapera) Year: 1961 Singer/s: Manna Dey Lyricist: Indeevar 12). Raat Ne Ghesu Bikhraaye (Sapera) Year: 1961 Singer/s: Manna Dey-Suman Kalyanpur Lyricist: Indeevar 13). Main Hoon Sapere Tere Jaadu Ke Desh Mein (Sapera) Year: 1961 Singer/s: Suman Kalyanpur Lyricist: Indeevar A lok geet had inspired the last song, as told by Ajit Merchant. Tarachand Savla then introduced us to Kishore Desai. He was the Maanas Putra of C. Ramchandra. It was in fact Kishore Desai, who was with C. Ramchandra in the hospital during his last few days. 14). Bairi Ched Na Aise Raag (Sapera) Year: 1961 Singer/s: Suman Kalyanpur Lyricist: Indeevar Prakash Purandare went on to say that, some Music Director/s had offered 10,000 Rs. Ajit Merchant in exchange for giving him/them the tunes composed by him. Even Raj Kapoor had asked for tunes from Ajit Merchant, but Ajit Merchant never parted with his tunes. 15). Bholo Bholo Bholo Piya (Sapera) Year: 1961 Singer/s: Suman Kalyanpur & Chorus Lyricist: Indeevar This song was based on Gorakh Kalyan Raag. 16). O Ri Piya, Mora Tadpe Jiya (Sapera) Year: 1961 Singer/s: Suman Kalyanpur Lyricist: Indeevar 17). Kuch Tum Ne Kahaan, Kuch Humne Sunaa (Challenge) Year: 1964 Singer/s: Asha Bhosle Lyricist: Prem Dhawan 18). Main Bhi Hoon Majboor Sajan (Challenge) Year: 1964 Singer/s: Mukesh-Asha Bhosle Lyricist: Prem Dhawan In his early days in Mumbai, Mukesh was staying in a flat donated by Ajit Merchant. Shanta Apte had sung her swan song for the film `Chandi Pooja' 19). Badle Re (3) Rang Badle Zamana Kahin (Challenge) Year: 1964 Singer/s: Lata Mangeshkar & Chorus Lyricist: Prem Dhawan 20). Main Ho Gayi Re Tere Liye Badnaam (Challenge) Year: 1964 Singer/s: Asha Bhosle Lyricist: Prem Dhawan Nanjibhai Bahadur then informed all that during his early years with HMV he had sung a solo `Tune Agar Pee Tho' and a duet with Snehlata. This was for a film `Bhaisahab' under Ninu Majumdar's compostion. Thus concluded the programme..... (source:Blog:Ramaswamy) Qatil hai teri adaa- Mukesh - 5.42mins/128kbps film-Lady Killer Anther song frm 'Challenge' was u/led last month on my thred at the following link..is still active http://www.hamaraforums.com/index.php?show...st&p=457406 (thanks to hf) "The best and the most beautiful things in the world cannot be seen, nor touched...but are felt in the heart." Far, very far, into the world of the farthest beyond My hope carries me and places me On the sweetest lap of the unknown. There i behold my self-form In the Dance-Delight of the Absolute Every Night and every Morn Some to Misery are born Every morn and every Night Some are born to sweet Delight Some are born to Endless night |
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Feb 22 2008, 10:02 PM
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Good Going HT Dost.
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