Jodi Dhamaal Ke, Gaane Kamaal Ke, Few Favourite Duets of Guru and his Co-singers Options

[HumTum]

Walkerbhai and Nimiiji thanks.

[azad]

18 Do Deewane Pyar Ke Pyar Mein Marne Chale ----- Karate ----- 1983 ----- Duet

MD: Bappi Lahiri

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10:08 @128/44 kbps





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Achchha abke baar khayal rakhunga. I will definitely wait for you to upload first. Petrol bharna important hai.

[Walker]

18 Do Deewane Pyar Ke Pyar Mein Marne Chale ----- Karate ----- 1983 ----- Duet

MD: Bappi Lahiri

Walker sahab here is your request. Courtesy HF

10:08 @128/44 kbps



Upload ho raha tha! Azad ko dekha jaldi jaldi reply pe click maara nahi to petrol kaise bharti

9 mb!!! Pehle gaana dhoondh raha tha ab petrol pump dhoondhna padega!!!!

[azad]

18 Do Deewane Pyar Ke Pyar Mein Marne Chale ----- Karate ----- 1983 ----- Duet

MD: Bappi Lahiri

Walker sahab here is your request. Courtesy HF

10:08 @128/44 kbps



Upload ho raha tha! Azad ko dekha jaldi jaldi reply pe click maara nahi to petrol kaise bharti

9 mb!!! Pehle gaana dhoondh raha tha ab petrol pump dhoondhna padega!!!!

I amost fell off my chair...........

[eskayes]

18 Do Deewane Pyar Ke Pyar Mein Marne Chale ----- Karate ----- 1983 ----- Duet

MD: Bappi Lahiri

Walker sahab here is your request. Courtesy HF

10:08 @128/44 kbps





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Thanks Nimii for this song...well, at 10 mins this must amongst the longest songs of Guru....

[eskayes]

You talk of prolific male Jodies of Guru, you can't leave out the father and son combo....Kishore Kumar and Amit Kumar....only Rafi, Mahendra Kapoor and Manna Dey have sung more songs with Guru than what this father-son combo sang together....this duo sang 31 songs together which includes 2 songs that were never released...they panned out some memorable songs like Nazar Lage Na Saathiyon, which remains a favourite for many a stage-shows even today....my personal favourite of this duo though is Aati Rahengi Bahharein Jaati Rahengi Bahaarein

Here is the complete listing of this combo....

1 O Daddy Bura Paisa Ka Pyar ----- Aap Beeti ----- 1976 ----- Duet
2 Hum To Aapke Deewane Hain ----- Aap Ke Deewane ----- 1980 ----- Alongwith Others
3 Cheers Bete Cheers ----- Awara Baap ----- 1985 ----- Duet
4 Apne Bas Ki Baat Nahin Bhai ----- Badhati Ka Naam Daadhi ----- 1974 ----- Duet
5 Tum Jo Mile Duniya Mili Jeevan Huya Ujiyara (Unreleased)---Badhati Ka Naam Daadhi---1974---Alongwith Others
6 Kya Kya Armaan Dil Mein The Apne ----- Bagula Bhagat ----- 1979 ----- Duet
7 Main Kachche Angoor Ki Bel ----- Chori Mera Kaam ----- 1975 ----- Alongwith Others
8 Haseenon Ke Chakkar Mein Padna Nahin ----- Deewangee ----- 1976 ----- Duet
9 Nazar Lage Na Saathiyon ----- Des Pardes ----- 1978 ----- Alongwith Others
10 Ja Jaldi Bhaag Ja Nahin Baba Nahin ----- Desh Premee ----- 1982 ----- Duet
11 Woh Hai Ek Bahuroopiya ----- Dhongee ----- 1976 ----- Alongwith Others
12 Prem Se Humko Jeene Do ----- Do Aur Do Paanch ----- 1980 ----- Alongwith Others
13 Beeti Jaaye Jaaye Zindagi (Unreleased) ----- Door Ka Rahi ----- 1971 ----- Duet
14 Aage Se Dekho Peechhe Se Dekho ----- Ghazab ----- 1982 ----- Duet
15 Ik Din Sapne Mein Dekha Ek Sapna ----- Golmaal ----- 1979 ----- Duet
16 Pal Yahi Hain Masti Ke Geet Chhed Do Khushi Ke ----- Hanste Khelte ----- 1984 ----- Alongwith Others
17 Bachna Aye Haseenon Lo Main Aa Gaya ----- Hum Kisi Se Kam Nahin ----- 1977 ----- Alongwith Others
18 Do Deewane Pyar Ke Pyar Mein Marne Chale ----- Karate ----- 1983 ----- Duet
19 Maa Aye Maa Ye Bhi Gale Ka Haar Hai ----- Karate ----- 1983 ----- Duet
20 Aati Rahengi Bahaarein Jati Rahengi Bahaarein ----- Kasme Vaade ----- 1978 ----- Alongwith Others
21 Rol Gol Makonisha Makonisha Kobara ----- Khatta Meetha ----- 1977 ----- Duet
22 Pyar Bhi Nahin Sharab Bhi Nahin ----- Khoon Ka Rishta ----- 1981 ----- Duet
23 Asli Kya Naqli Kya Hai Inko Aaj Bata Denge ----- Mahaan ----- 1983 ----- Duet
24 Maal Hai To Taal Hai - Part 1 ----- Malamaal ----- 1988 ----- Alongwith Others
25 Maal Hai To Taal Hai - Part 2 ----- Malamaal ----- 1988 ----- Alongwith Others
26 Apni Laila Ka Jo Pyar Nahin Payega ----- Mohabbat ----- 1985 ----- Duet
27 Khuli Nazar Kya Khel Dekhega Duniya Ka ----- Parvarish ----- 1977 ----- Duet
28 Milte Rahiye Milne Se Dil Mil Jayenge ----- Prem Vivah ----- 1979 ----- Duet
29 Mera Dil Tera Dil Haye Re Dil ----- Pyas ----- 1982 ----- Duet
30 Pyar Aur Shadi Duniya Ne Ye Reet Bana Di ----- Shabbash Daddy ----- 1978 ----- Duet
31 Zindagi Ye Kaisi Hai Jaise Jeeyo Waisi Hai ----- Swami Dada ----- 1982 ----- Alongwith Others


Both #5 and #13 were not released though they were recorded....interesting part is that #13, which was originally recorded in the voices of the father and son for the film Door Ka Rahi, never found a place in the movie, but was later released in the film Mamta Ki Chhaon Mein re-recorded as a solo by Amit Kumar...

While the unreleased version of #13 from Door Ka Rahi continues to be elusive, here is the same song re-recorded as a solo by Amit Kumar in the film Mamta Ki Chhaaon Mein...

Beeti Jaaye Jaaye Zindagani ----Mamta Ki Chhaaon Mein---1989---Solo by Amit Kumar---03:19@128

[Aurous]

While the unreleased version of #13 from Door Ka Rahi continues to be elusive, here is the same song re-recorded as a solo by Amit Kumar in the film Mamta Ki Chhaaon Mein...

Beeti Jaaye Jaaye Zindagani ----Mamta Ki Chhaaon Mein---1989---Solo by Amit Kumar---03:19@128

eskayes...Thanks for this re-released track by Amit Kumar

[OMkar]

You talk of prolific male Jodies of Guru, you can't leave out the father and son combo....Kishore Kumar and Amit Kumar....only Rafi, Mahendra Kapoor and Manna Dey have sung more songs with Guru than what this father-son combo sang together....this duo sang 31 songs together which includes 2 songs that were never released...they panned out some memorable songs like Nazar Lage Na Saathiyon, which remains a favourite for many a stage-shows even today....my personal favourite of this duo though is Aati Rahengi Bahharein Jaati Rahengi Bahaarein

Here is the complete listing of this combo....

1 O Daddy Bura Paisa Ka Pyar ----- Aap Beeti ----- 1976 ----- Duet
2 Hum To Aapke Deewane Hain ----- Aap Ke Deewane ----- 1980 ----- Alongwith Others
3 Cheers Bete Cheers ----- Awara Baap ----- 1985 ----- Duet
4 Apne Bas Ki Baat Nahin Bhai ----- Badhati Ka Naam Daadhi ----- 1974 ----- Duet
5 Tum Jo Mile Duniya Mili Jeevan Huya Ujiyara (Unreleased)---Badhati Ka Naam Daadhi---1974---Alongwith Others
6 Kya Kya Armaan Dil Mein The Apne ----- Bagula Bhagat ----- 1979 ----- Duet
7 Main Kachche Angoor Ki Bel ----- Chori Mera Kaam ----- 1975 ----- Alongwith Others
8 Haseenon Ke Chakkar Mein Padna Nahin ----- Deewangee ----- 1976 ----- Duet
9 Nazar Lage Na Saathiyon ----- Des Pardes ----- 1978 ----- Alongwith Others
10 Ja Jaldi Bhaag Ja Nahin Baba Nahin ----- Desh Premee ----- 1982 ----- Duet
11 Woh Hai Ek Bahuroopiya ----- Dhongee ----- 1976 ----- Alongwith Others
12 Prem Se Humko Jeene Do ----- Do Aur Do Paanch ----- 1980 ----- Alongwith Others
13 Beeti Jaaye Jaaye Zindagi (Unreleased) ----- Door Ka Rahi ----- 1971 ----- Duet
14 Aage Se Dekho Peechhe Se Dekho ----- Ghazab ----- 1982 ----- Duet
15 Ik Din Sapne Mein Dekha Ek Sapna ----- Golmaal ----- 1979 ----- Duet
16 Pal Yahi Hain Masti Ke Geet Chhed Do Khushi Ke ----- Hanste Khelte ----- 1984 ----- Alongwith Others
17 Bachna Aye Haseenon Lo Main Aa Gaya ----- Hum Kisi Se Kam Nahin ----- 1977 ----- Alongwith Others
18 Do Deewane Pyar Ke Pyar Mein Marne Chale ----- Karate ----- 1983 ----- Duet
19 Maa Aye Maa Ye Bhi Gale Ka Haar Hai ----- Karate ----- 1983 ----- Duet
20 Aati Rahengi Bahaarein Jati Rahengi Bahaarein ----- Kasme Vaade ----- 1978 ----- Alongwith Others
21 Rol Gol Makonisha Makonisha Kobara ----- Khatta Meetha ----- 1977 ----- Duet
22 Pyar Bhi Nahin Sharab Bhi Nahin ----- Khoon Ka Rishta ----- 1981 ----- Duet
23 Asli Kya Naqli Kya Hai Inko Aaj Bata Denge ----- Mahaan ----- 1983 ----- Duet
24 Maal Hai To Taal Hai - Part 1 ----- Malamaal ----- 1988 ----- Alongwith Others
25 Maal Hai To Taal Hai - Part 2 ----- Malamaal ----- 1988 ----- Alongwith Others
26 Apni Laila Ka Jo Pyar Nahin Payega ----- Mohabbat ----- 1985 ----- Duet
27 Khuli Nazar Kya Khel Dekhega Duniya Ka ----- Parvarish ----- 1977 ----- Duet
28 Milte Rahiye Milne Se Dil Mil Jayenge ----- Prem Vivah ----- 1979 ----- Duet
29 Mera Dil Tera Dil Haye Re Dil ----- Pyas ----- 1982 ----- Duet
30 Pyar Aur Shadi Duniya Ne Ye Reet Bana Di ----- Shabbash Daddy ----- 1978 ----- Duet
31 Zindagi Ye Kaisi Hai Jaise Jeeyo Waisi Hai ----- Swami Dada ----- 1982 ----- Alongwith Others


Both #5 and #13 were not released though they were recorded....interesting part is that #13, which was originally recorded in the voices of the father and son for the film Door Ka Rahi, never found a place in the movie, but was later released in the film Mamta Ki Chhaon Mein re-recorded as a solo by Amit Kumar...

While the unreleased version of #13 from Door Ka Rahi continues to be elusive, here is the same song re-recorded as a solo by Amit Kumar in the film Mamta Ki Chhaaon Mein...

Beeti Jaaye Jaaye Zindagani ----Mamta Ki Chhaaon Mein---1989---Solo by Amit Kumar---03:19@128

eskayesji is this song recroded from VCD? The tempo seem to be fast..

[eskayes]

eskayesji is this song recroded from VCD? The tempo seem to be fast..

No, I had it in my Amit Kumar folder which i had not visited for months....now i do not know from where, but i do not have its VCD....

It is generally believed (and i suppose found as well) that the pace of songs on VCDs/DVDs are a bit faster than LP/EP....now the question is which is the right speed?...since videos move at 28 frames per second which is perhaps closest to normal motion, shouldn't the video speed be the actual speed of the song? because the song would have been originally picturised at that speed (assumption being that at the time of picturisation, the speed actually meant for the song would generally be used by the director)....Any views from anyone on this please?

[OMkar]

eskayesji is this song recroded from VCD? The tempo seem to be fast..

No, I had it in my Amit Kumar folder which i had not visited for months....now i do not know from where, but i do not have its VCD....

It is generally believed (and i suppose found as well) that the pace of songs on VCDs/DVDs are a bit faster than LP/EP....now the question is which is the right speed?...since videos move at 28 frames per second which is perhaps closest to normal motion, shouldn't the video speed be the actual speed of the song? because the song would have been originally picturised at that speed (assumption being that at the time of picturisation, the speed actually meant for the song would generally be used by the director)....Any views from anyone on this please?

According to my opinion, any music director records the song as per the mood of the song and required tempo is decided before hand. Once the song is recorded a copy of spool is sent to the director of the movie for him to picturise the song. Now when director is picturizing the song, he may increase the tempo for various reasons. I have observed it quite many times that one video the song is slightly fast.

There may be many various valid reasons to do so. But to me (JMO) the right speed is the one decided by MD. Like in this case, the original speed of 'beeti jaye jaye jaye zindagani' is really fabulous. When u hear such gems, u realize what I mean... Its a kind of inspirational song which need to convey the message for which the right tempo is very important. If the tempo is tampered, the msg does not reach to the heart, it only reaches to the brain and the song is forgotten easily. But if the tempo is CORRECT, the song can NOT be forgotten.. THIS IS JUST MY OPINION.

[GURUFAN]

eskayesji is this song recroded from VCD? The tempo seem to be fast..

No, I had it in my Amit Kumar folder which i had not visited for months....now i do not know from where, but i do not have its VCD....

It is generally believed (and i suppose found as well) that the pace of songs on VCDs/DVDs are a bit faster than LP/EP....now the question is which is the right speed?...since videos move at 28 frames per second which is perhaps closest to normal motion, shouldn't the video speed be the actual speed of the song? because the song would have been originally picturised at that speed (assumption being that at the time of picturisation, the speed actually meant for the song would generally be used by the director)....Any views from anyone on this please?

According to my opinion, any music director records the song as per the mood of the song and required tempo is decided before hand. Once the song is recorded a copy of spool is sent to the director of the movie for him to picturise the song. Now when director is picturizing the song, he may increase the tempo for various reasons. I have observed it quite many times that one video the song is slightly fast.

There may be many various valid reasons to do so. But to me (JMO) the right speed is the one decided by MD. Like in this case, the original speed of 'beeti jaye jaye jaye zindagani' is really fabulous. When u hear such gems, u realize what I mean... Its a kind of inspirational song which need to convey the message for which the right tempo is very important. If the tempo is tampered, the msg does not reach to the heart, it only reaches to the brain and the song is forgotten easily. But if the tempo is CORRECT, the song can NOT be forgotten.. THIS IS JUST MY OPINION.

OMKar,

I dint even know that sometimes the filmi ver or the video ver has a faster tempo!!

is it???????

I thought what is recoerded by the MD is final.

can anyone give me an example? i mean a normal and a faster tempo version?

interesting discussion

[OMkar]

eskayesji is this song recroded from VCD? The tempo seem to be fast..

No, I had it in my Amit Kumar folder which i had not visited for months....now i do not know from where, but i do not have its VCD....

It is generally believed (and i suppose found as well) that the pace of songs on VCDs/DVDs are a bit faster than LP/EP....now the question is which is the right speed?...since videos move at 28 frames per second which is perhaps closest to normal motion, shouldn't the video speed be the actual speed of the song? because the song would have been originally picturised at that speed (assumption being that at the time of picturisation, the speed actually meant for the song would generally be used by the director)....Any views from anyone on this please?

According to my opinion, any music director records the song as per the mood of the song and required tempo is decided before hand. Once the song is recorded a copy of spool is sent to the director of the movie for him to picturise the song. Now when director is picturizing the song, he may increase the tempo for various reasons. I have observed it quite many times that one video the song is slightly fast.

There may be many various valid reasons to do so. But to me (JMO) the right speed is the one decided by MD. Like in this case, the original speed of 'beeti jaye jaye jaye zindagani' is really fabulous. When u hear such gems, u realize what I mean... Its a kind of inspirational song which need to convey the message for which the right tempo is very important. If the tempo is tampered, the msg does not reach to the heart, it only reaches to the brain and the song is forgotten easily. But if the tempo is CORRECT, the song can NOT be forgotten.. THIS IS JUST MY OPINION.

OMKar,

I dint even know that sometimes the filmi ver or the video ver has a faster tempo!!

is it???????

I thought what is recoerded by the MD is final.

can anyone give me an example? i mean a normal and a faster tempo version?

interesting discussion

Its not that the tempo is noticeably increased. The pitch of the song is slightly increased. Just take the example of 'Dakiya Dak Laya' song.. I have uploaded it here and look at the video uploaded by eskayes few days back in video thread. Hear it carefully, u will notice that the tempo in the video is sllllightly high... May be they film directors needs slightly high tempo for convenient movements in acting.. Just my thought.. Just imagine if the song was picturised in the original tempo, it might been difficult to act in that tempo.. I mean, to act on actual (slow) tempo might be slightly difficult..

But if I was a director I would have picturised in original tempo only Just kidding

[azad]

I dint even know that sometimes the filmi ver or the video ver has a faster tempo!!

is it???????

I

I don't believe this, the motor control circuitry in your VCR/VCD/DVD or in the original recorder's machine probably needs fine adjustments .

[eskayes]

I dint even know that sometimes the filmi ver or the video ver has a faster tempo!!

is it???????

I

I don't believe this, the motor control circuitry in your VCR/VCD/DVD or in the original recorder's machine probably needs fine adjustments .

I fully agree with you Azad...infact that's the reason i raked up this topic....because i feel the the song, as was picturised, was the right tempo at which everything starting from the original studio recording would have been done...the picturisation of any song in hindi movie (or for that matter any indian language movie) is the life of the song...the song is conceptualised, written, composed and recorded completely keeping the picturisation in mind.....now if the tempo is faster, then either video is running faster or the turntable is running slower...(assuming the video tempo is higher, else it will be the other way around)...

In my own opinion, in handful of songs ripped from LP/EP or cassette and uploaded here on the forum, i felt the tempo had been slower...and that, i always thought was because the turntable/tape recorder speed lost speed in time on use...like every mechanical gadget, these also need maintenance and re-adjustment from time to time.....

In short, if video is running fine at the right speed and your video player is in fact panning out 28 frames in a second (this is something which can be measured on computer with various refined softwares), then the song speed/tempo as on video has to be the correct one....this is what i feel....and i would not go by the speed of LP/RP, because the original recording on the disc itself might have had slight speed issue unless the disc cutting equipment is calliberated to say, at least two decimal places, at the start of each recording...a difference of 0.01 sec (second decimal place error) in speed of disc cutting equipment could result in about 2.5 secs of longer time for a 5 mins song...and if the error is 0.09 sec, then as much of a difference as 20 sec.....

[King Kishore]

I dint even know that sometimes the filmi ver or the video ver has a faster tempo!!

is it???????

I

I don't believe this, the motor control circuitry in your VCR/VCD/DVD or in the original recorder's machine probably needs fine adjustments .

I may not agree with Omkar on the reason why some songs on VCDs are faster in tempo/pitch but there is no denying the fact that some definitely are. I have not had one but several experiences of this. I agree with him on that def.

The same VCD which shows faster tempo/pitch in the VCD/DVD player does the same in my other players as well and also on different computers I have. Now ALL cant be mal-adjusted can they, Home players as well as CD/DVD drives on the computer ?
Just my observation.