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[unni]

[unni]

[Priya]

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Duet with Rafisaab, from Chakradhari (56) has been uled here.
Post 688.

[leo boy]

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Duet with Rafisaab, from Chakradhari (56) has been uled here.
Post 688.

Well-known and popular songs of other singers just cannot compare with the lesser-known songs of Mohammad Rafi!!!

[leo boy]

Mohammad Rafi is inded the best singer the world has ever seen.

[leo boy]

sorry guys I meant 'indeed" the best singer

[leo boy]

The world hasn’t yet seen a singer like Mohammad Rafi.
The reasons for his invincibility:
1. Gifted with the sweetest voice possible
2. Had a lot of appeal in his voice
3. Had a crystal clear voice
4. Displayed superb breath control
5. Could pitch voice both ways (which no one could do)
6. Had a very youthful voice
7. Had outstanding variety �" ghazals, qawwalies, patriotic songs, comedies, romantic songs, fast songs, slow songs, loud songs, bhajans, classical songs, mythological songs, discos, rock-in roll, cabaret, intoxicated mood songs, songs with sex appeal, happy songs, sad songs, extremely sentimental songs and many more
8. Had the incredible ability to produce true and real feelings
9. Had outstanding voice modulation (absolutely unbeaten at it even today)
10. Had incredible fluidity ( amazingly smooth flow of words)
11. Could express all human feelings (every possible human feeling has been depicted by Rafi)
12. His Hindi and Urdu pronunciations were immaculate.

It’s really sad that all people do not realize the greatness of Mohammad Rafi. Look at point no.7 above.There is a big difference between a great singer and a complete singer.

Mohammad Rafi really had the voice of God. His golden voice worked as a perfect soothing balm on a tired body and a depressed soul.

My opinions are based upon careful research. I carried an extensive research along with my friends and other knowledgeable people and the final conclusion was:

There might be another AMITABH BACHCHAN, another SACHIN TENDULKAR, but there simply cannot be another MOHAMMAD RAFI.

MOHAMMAD RAFI is simply beyond compare.

Unless a singer is complete (as regards point no. 7 above), he or she just cannot compare with Rafi, and even if he or she is a complete singer will they ever fulfill the other criteria (point nos. 1 to 6 and point nos. 8 to 12 above)?

It’s a pity indeed that all do not realize this but as they say “Truth Alone Prevails�.

This nether world did not deserve a great soul like Mohammad Rafi hence God called him early. He actually deserved to sing on a planet where only Gods live.


This post has been edited by unni: Nov 6 2005, 10:12 PM

[Akhtar]

Wow !

Well put! Very well put.

[unni]

leo boy:

You'd note that your post has been edited.

It is the culture in Hamara Forums that, while appreciating/praising an artiste, we do not disparage other artistes.

It is just fine to praise a legend. But we believe it is inappropriate to discredit another legend, in the process.

This is out of respect for the sentiments of members who are fans of the other legends also featured in this forum.

Thanks!

[unni]

leo boy:

Your last post has been removed from view, since it was precisely the kind of personal opinion that, when expressed in an open forum, offends fans of other legends.

[sri]

The issue raised by you is most appropriate, Unni.

We are here to enjoy and appreciate the thousands of songs left behind by so many great artistes. Comparison is so out of place here. On the contrary, we should be able to expand our horizons to appreciate the beauty in artistes and songs that we have not yet been privileged to hear. Despite having been listening, for around 50 years, to songs from the golden era of Indian music - there is still so much that I am yet to discover - such is the vastness of the treasure left behind by these great musicians from the sub-continent.

In any case, who the hell are we (just mere mortals) to engage in comparison and arguments (emanating from such comparison) about such great people ? The whole idea is foolish to start with.

It is right to curb this trend and nip it in the bud. I sincerely hope that all our members will understand the spirit behind this approach and focus their efforts in appreciating and sharing the beauty of the vast legacy left behind for our unending pleasure.

Sri

[Harold]

Great analysis on Rafi-saab Leo Boy.

Unni-ji, you're absolutely right! Your message is in the spirit of Rafi-saab.

[Binod]

Great analysis on Rafi-saab Leo Boy.

Unni-ji, you're absolutely right! Your message is in the spirit of Rafi-saab.

I do agree with Harold when he gives credit to Unni-ji who has the unenviable task of maintaining Hf's high standards at the risk of causing displeasure and uncomfort to some people.

However, I do not endorse his views which brand the write-up of Leo Boy as "Great Analysis." Leo Boy claims that his opinions were based on 'careful research' and 'extensive research'. I would be wary of such tall claims unless I knew what sort of research methodology he employed to arrive at his conclusions and whether such research had any rigor, reliability or validity attached to it.

I am an avid RAFI fan but I try to see him in proper perspective and in reality. I know his limitations and his forte. That is why I find it sickening to praise him so as to exclude everything else. RAFI like all other artists is no God. Yet Sonu Nigam called him one. Here I find Leo Roy saying that Rafi "really had the voice of God. " What sort of research did he do to arrive at such a bizarre conclusion? Has he ever heard God's voice? I am anxiously waiting for a reply. Thanks.

Binod.

[tracknest]

Great analysis on Rafi-saab Leo Boy.

Unni-ji, you're absolutely right! Your message is in the spirit of Rafi-saab.

I do agree with Harold when he gives credit to Unni-ji who has the unenviable task of maintaining Hf's high standards at the risk of causing displeasure and uncomfort to some people.

However, I do not endorse his views which brand the write-up of Leo Boy as "Great Analysis." Leo Boy claims that his opinions were based on 'careful research' and 'extensive research'. I would be wary of such tall claims unless I knew what sort of research methodology he employed to arrive at his conclusions and whether such research had any rigor, reliability or validity attached to it.

I am an avid RAFI fan but I try to see him in proper perspective and in reality. I know his limitations and his forte. That is why I find it sickening to praise him so as to exclude everything else. RAFI like all other artists is no God. Yet Sonu Nigam called him one. Here I find Leo Roy saying that Rafi "really had the voice of God. " What sort of research did he do to arrive at such a bizarre conclusion? Has he ever heard God's voice? I am anxiously waiting for a reply. Thanks.

Binod.

Binod

I believe all Leo was trying to do is demonstrate his passion for Mohd Rafi. I dont think one needs to do any research on Mohd Rafi to find how good he was. All one requires is a set of ears and the job can be done. Surely Mohd Rafi or anyone else except God cant be god. Sometimes people do get carriied away and use such terminology. No human can qualify as a God. Also I believe every tom, dick and harry should not be bestowed with the word great,which is one of the most abused words.


Mohd Rafi definitely qualifies for the 'great' word just like others who have made invaluable contributions to the society in many ways.

As for Sonu, I am sure he did not mean it in real terms, all he was trying to state was the degree of respect and recognition he has for Mohd Rafi as an artiste.

I am sure you do understand this?


As long as anyone does not bring down another artiste, I believe the person has a full democratic right to shower praises for someone he /she likes. I don't think its in a good spirit to question their love and admiration for their star. If one does not like it or diasgree then simply do not read it.

However I am curious to know what analysis or tests did you do to find Rafi's limitations. I believe most music gurus like Naushad have stated that he had none.

BTW I agree with Unni completely.

Regards
T

[Harold]

I'm very well aware that all things Leo mentioned are not scientifically analysed. As Tracknest mentioned, he just praised Rafi-saab, and I liked the way he did it.

However, being a Muslim I'm against comparing anyone else with God. That is also against the believe of Rafi-saab himself, since he was a pious and devote Muslim. On the old MAS-forum I requested people who respect Rafi-saab, not to compare him with God, because I'm 100% confident that Rafi-saab wouldn't like that.

As for limitations? I don't know any. He was just more then perfect. For me: Out of this world!!!