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post Oct 16 2006, 10:35 PM
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Similar to the topic that I had started in SKS, I am starting a thread here in the Tamil
forum where I will upload all the songs from a film. I recently downloaded software
to rip songs from DVD and so I have downloaded the songs from a few nice films.
I have no geetkosh for Tamil cinema. SO information will be more spotty for these
films. If I watch the film, I will provide some information about that as well.
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post Oct 17 2006, 05:51 AM
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I am starting the series with songs from the film "Pudhiya paravai" (1964).
The film starred Sivaji Ganeshan with Saroja Devi and Sowcar Janaki. It
was a thriller/mystery loosely based on the James Hadley Chase novel "To
chase a crooked shadow". The film itself is not watchable (IMO) due to the
gross over-acting by the lead actors, but it was quite a hit in its time. So
who am I to judge.
The highlight of the film however was the exceptional music composed by
Vishwanathan-Ramamurthy. They created magic when they composed
together. While M S Vishwanathan did go on to be very very successful on
his own for almost 20 years, I felt that the music always lacked that special
touch that was their when the composed as a team. T K Ramamurthy never
quite managed to make it solo.
The songs from this film come from the DVD, but they still needed to be
cleaned up.

While I would normally start with the title music of the film, I am going to do it a
bit differently. I will start this series with what is among my top 20 favorite compositions
in Tamil film music. There are 2 versions of the song, both solos by P Susheela.
The first is a faster version sung with a huge band while the second version is
slower and softer and with minimal orchestration. Susheela is great in the first one,
but just superb in the second.

Songs 1 and 2: Unnai onDru keTpen unmai solla venDum
Singer: P Susheela
Both versions are included in this upload.
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post Oct 17 2006, 05:56 AM
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Song 3: Title music
I find this music to be kind of loud and all over the place. The scene
however is that of a woman who is being chased by somebody in a
car while she is running along some railroad tracks. There is a train
approaching as well. It ends with her dying. One cannot see anybody's
face during this sequence since it is all in silhouette.
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post Oct 17 2006, 06:04 AM
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The next song was the most popular one in this film. It is again in 2 parts and
both parts are solos. The first is the happy version that is picturized on Sowcar
Janaki in a nightclub, the first time that Sivaji Ganeshan sees her.
The second version is sung by the wife who has allegedly returned from the
dead. It begins with an excellent piano piece. The orchestration of the second
version is excellent.

Songs 4 and 5: Paartha nyaabagam illaiyo
Singer: P Susheela

Both parts are included in this upload.
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post Oct 17 2006, 06:08 AM
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Song 6: ChiTTukuruvi muthham koDuthhu
Singer: P Susheela

Despite the film having 2 heroines (both attached to the same hero), there
are no duets at all. All the songs are solos. Here is another of those solos.
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post Oct 17 2006, 06:14 AM
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Now let us move to the 2 male solos in the film.
Both tunes are nice. But the funniest part of this song for me are
the inaptness of they lyrics. The words say "Undhan chinna iDai
vaLaindhaaDum" and it is picturized on a rather ample Saroja Devi
sacheting in front of a very very ample Sivaji. Then again, it was
a different time, long before the current days of excellent figures.
Oh, I should not forget to mention this really really awful muslin-material
shirt that Sivaji is wearing in this scene. Sivaji in semi-see-through
clothing. As I said, it was a different time smile1.gif

Song 7: Aaha mella naDa mella naDa meni yennaagum
Singer: TMS
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post Oct 17 2006, 06:20 AM
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The last song from this film was also quite popular. It is not among
my favorites, but the composition has grown on me over time.

Song 8: Yenge nimmadhi
Singer: TMS
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post Oct 17 2006, 07:33 AM
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Great thread SB! Will you join in this project in a few minutes!
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post Oct 17 2006, 07:44 AM
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QUOTE(Nimii @ Oct 16 2006, 07:03 PM) *

Great thread SB! Will you join in this project in a few minutes!

Thank you.
But did not understand what you are saying about project.
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post Oct 17 2006, 08:24 AM
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Project - matlab uploading songs from one movie! Sigh! I have been attending workshops, discussing projects, so plz dont mind my language! I am still in a zombie state of mind!
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post Oct 17 2006, 09:56 AM
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Very nice concept indeed, sangeetbhaktji !!

I fully agree with your view on Viswanathan-Ramamoorthy vs M.S.Viswanathan. I felt that the most brilliant aspect of the combo's music was the brilliant orchestration which was missing when MSV went solo. Listen to such songs as "Yen vaazvil pudhu paadhai kanden" and "Mayangugiraal oru maadhu" - the superb usage of the violins, flutes and sitar is what makes these songs so amazing to hear, in addition to the composition and the singers.

As to "Pudhiya paravai", the film came at aroun 1964-5 when Sivaji was living on days as a Star than an Actor. I think Sivaji during the 1952-3 to 1961-2 period was the greatest actor India saw. Unfortunately, after this, I think he saw himself too much of a star.
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post Oct 17 2006, 10:10 AM
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QUOTE(shriram @ Oct 16 2006, 09:26 PM) *

Very nice concept indeed, sangeetbhaktji !!

Please please please drop the "ji". Totally unnecessary.

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I fully agree with your view on Viswanathan-Ramamoorthy vs M.S.Viswanathan. I felt that the most brilliant aspect of the combo's music was the brilliant orchestration which was missing when MSV went solo. Listen to such songs as "Yen vaazvil pudhu paadhai kanden" and "Mayangugiraal oru maadhu" - the superb usage of the violins, flutes and sitar is what makes these songs so amazing to hear, in addition to the composition and the singers.

There was a softness to the compositions which I always assumed to be the TKR influence.
MSV had a very strong sense of rhythm/percussion and certainly composed some great tunes.
But if I compare the duo v/s the solo compositions, there is a delicacy to the compositions.
P Susheela never sang better than when she sang for them.

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As to "Pudhiya paravai", the film came at aroun 1964-5 when Sivaji was living on days as a Star than an Actor. I think Sivaji during the 1952-3 to 1961-2 period was the greatest actor India saw. Unfortunately, after this, I think he saw himself too much of a star.

I was never in the camp that thought Sivaji was a good actor. His style was always to over-emote.
And that just does not work for me. One of my favorite actors/actresses of the time was Savitri.
Despite all the melodrama in the films of the period, she generally managed to underplay her roles.
And the other actor who always amazed me by his versatality was Nagesh. But I am digressing into
areas that are not relevant to this thread. So I will stop.
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post Oct 18 2006, 09:32 AM
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Paava Mannippu - 1961 release featuring Shivaji, Gemini Ganeshan, Savithiri, M.R.Radha.
Music: Vishwanathan Ramamoorthy
Lyrics: Kannadasan

Some great numbers from this movie are
Tracks
1. Athaan Ennathaan - P Susheela
2. Ellorum Kondaduvom - TMS (chorus)
3. Kalangalil Aval Vasantham - PBS - Beautiful Solo
4. Paal irukkum - TMS and P.Susheela - Another Sweet duet.
5. Silar Sirupaar Silar Azhuvaar - TMS
6. Vantha Naal Mudhal - TMS

Will uploading in a few minutes.
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post Oct 18 2006, 10:01 AM
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The first track Athaan ennathaan - a soft number by P Susheela.

Lyrics:

aththaan...ennaththaan...avar ennaiththaan...
eppadi solvaenadi
avar kaiyaiththaan kondu mellaththaan vandhu kannaiththaan
eppadi solvaenadi

(aththaan)

aenaththaan ennaip paaraththan kaelaththaan enru solliththaan (2)
senra pennaiththaan kandu thudiththaan azhaiththaan siriththaan anaiththaan
eppadi solvaenadi

mottuththaan kanni chittuththaan muththuththaan udal pattuththaan (2)
enru thottuththaan kaiyyil inaiththaan valaiththaan siriththaan anaiththaan
eppadi solvaenadi

(aththaan)






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post Oct 18 2006, 10:12 AM
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Nice thread SB !!

Looking forward to musically good times ahead !!

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"Jis din is duniya se nafrat aur khudgarzi mit jaayegi, us roz yeh insaan naachega, us roz yeh dharti gaayegi" - Rajinder Krishan (Maa baap 1959)
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