Sanskrit Lessons Anyone ? |
Sanskrit Lessons Anyone ? |
hits |
Aug 28 2005, 04:39 AM
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visuja |
Aug 28 2005, 07:35 AM
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Hits ! Trust you to see the obvious! Even shyam wouldnt have realised he was typing Sanskrit !!
Yahaan to sirf do Vivek hain HF par...teesra kaun ?? Ok.. proceeding by trial and error, let me make a few blunders and the gurus here can correct me: atra Bhavatah biBhAsah pashyAmi. sah kimapi 'post' (=sUchih ?) na karishyati iti kA ? Let me also translate what i tried to write: (kya pata..galti se theek likh diya ho ) --- I see bibhas Sir here. He doesnt post anything. Why so? |
Mandrake |
Aug 28 2005, 09:46 AM
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QUOTE(visuja @ Aug 26 2005, 10:41 AM) I think hits shd be the teacher here.. for acc to me, you have a pretty good understanding of the language ..... er.. care to lead us here too ? VISUJA. Tumne toh mera patta directly kataa diya (M wanders through the gali-koochas, in tatters, singing 'kuchh log yahaan per aise hain..' sometimes he changes the song and also sings 'matlab nikal gaya hai oh pehchaantey nahi..') Self - belief is the most potent force.
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visuja |
Aug 28 2005, 08:19 PM
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Mandrake. Mujhe kya pata tumhein sanskrit mein bhi dilchaspi hai (though did give u some credit !! I did expect u that u'd have taken a formal training in this one too !!)
chalo.seems hits is busy with something...why dont u fill in for him ? |
Mandrake |
Aug 28 2005, 08:40 PM
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QUOTE(visuja @ Aug 28 2005, 08:19 PM) Mandrake. Mujhe kya pata tumhein sanskrit mein bhi dilchaspi hai (though did give u some credit !! I did expect u that u'd have taken a formal training in this one too !!) chalo.seems hits is busy with something...why dont u fill in for him ? Fill in??? Fill in????? Kyon? Mujhmein zara-si bhi originality nahi hai kya? (M changes record/cassette/CD : 'ye kya kiya re duniyawale, jahaan ke ghum...' Mukesh-mode shuru hota hai) Self - belief is the most potent force.
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visuja |
Sep 4 2005, 01:08 PM
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kEnapi EtAni pOsTAni pashyanti ??
Me gonna have a field day obliterating all rules of Sanskrit grammar with no one to correct me ! ..... on second thoughts... ... mAta mitram pita chEti svabhAvAt trtayam hitam kAryakAraNataschAnyE bhavanti hitabuddhayah mAtA = mother mitram = friend pita = father chEti -- cha + iti cha = and iti = thus svabhAvAt = by behaviour / nature trtayam = trio hitam = for benifit By nature, the trio of mother, friends and father (worry about your) welfare. kAryakAraNataschAnyE --- kArya-kAraNatah + cha + anyE kArya-kAraNatah = (own) work (and) reason / personal benefits anyE = others bhavanti = become hitabuddhayah = make-believe / feign (your) welfare (any sandhi here ? ) For their own personal needs, others feign being your well-wishers Me making any sense .. O Panini's at HF ?? |
Mandrake |
Sep 4 2005, 01:32 PM
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O Krishna, what did you say in the Geeta? krodhadbhavati sammoha...buddhinaasha.... (M logs onto the net, and books a flight to the Himalayas....) Self - belief is the most potent force.
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Mandrake |
Sep 4 2005, 01:44 PM
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Suddenly M pauses.... what if Visuja cannot understand?
He quickly turns, strides to the computer, and deftly taps the keyboard: krodhAdbhavati saMmohaH saMmohAtsmRtivibhramaH smRtibhraMshAdbuddhinAsho buddhinAshAtpraNashyati Then, whistling 'The Good, The Bad and The Ugly', he sauters to the door... Self - belief is the most potent force.
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visuja |
Sep 4 2005, 01:50 PM
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M !! It is indeed one of my fav passages in the Geeta (and one of verrrrrry few that I manage to understand )
dhyAyato vishhayAn pumsah, sangastEshhUpajAyatE sangAt sanjAyatE kAmah, kAmAt krOdhObhijAyatE krOdhAdbhavati sammOhah sammOhAt smRtivibhramaH smRtibhramshAd buddhinAshah buddhinAshAt praNashyati Generally spot my own behaviour at the anger / sorrow stage and try to analyse what is it that I'm attached to ... budhhinaash tak pahuncha nahin hoon... ..shaayad.. |
Mandrake |
Sep 4 2005, 01:57 PM
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Arey agyaan baalak, buddhinaash tera nahi mera ho raha hai... :hair-pull:
(A quick FF on the player, and the air is filled with the soulful Mukesh: zinda hoon is tarah ke ghum-e-zindagi nahi jalta hua chiraag hoon par roshni nahi...) V instantly peeks in from behind the door!! His glance darts around, trying to find who this Roshni babe is... Self - belief is the most potent force.
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visuja |
Sep 4 2005, 02:08 PM
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Although translations would be widely available, lemme try and give meanings for individual words:
dhyAyato --- dhyAyatah = (he/she) concentrates vishhayAn - has a deeper meaning ... I think it means 'wordly objects' pumsah - person sangastEshhUpajAyatE --- sangah + tEshhu + upajAyatE sangah = association teshhu = among / with them upajAyatE - arises / starts (when) a person concentrates on 'wordly objects', he starts associating with them sangAt = from association sanjAyatE = arises / springs forth kAmah = desire kAmAt = from desire krOdhObhijAyatE --- krOdhah + abhijAyatE krOdhah = anger (also means sorrw here, I suppose ) abhijAyatE = arises From association, springs forth desire (and) from desire arises anger krOdhAt = from anger bhavati = exists (from) sammOhah = delusion sammOhAt = from delusion smRtivibhramah = forgetfullness (forgetting whats right and wrong) Delusion exists (due to) anger (and) from delusion (arises) forgetfulness smRtibhramshAt = from forgetfullness budhhinAshah = total loss (of) intellect / wisdom buddhinAshAt = from loss (of) wisdom praNashyati = utter destruction Forgetfullnes leads to loss of wisdom (and) loss of wisdom spells utter destruction *Vivek enjoys the free rein thats being given to him at this thread * poor bibhas .. u started the thread na ? |
bibhas |
Sep 6 2005, 09:36 PM
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QUOTE(visuja @ Sep 4 2005, 04:38 AM) *Vivek enjoys the free rein thats being given to him at this thread * poor bibhas .. u started the thread na ? Vivek, Enjoy it. I am enjoying reading all the translations (Dhanyosmi Vivekah) too. Though I knew the general meaning of the shlokas, it helps to see the sandhis broken down and roots displayed. Bhautika shAstrAdhyayanam karishyAmi, Me on a short break to learn physics before I tackle Sankrit. Bibhas A science that does not deliver us to the portals of metaphysics is a failed science and a religion that does not embrace physics is not grounded in reality.
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visuja |
Sep 20 2005, 08:43 AM
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Bibhas, your impromptu sanskrit is quite excellent ! Mujhe 5 min sochna padta hai to come up with a short sentence, that too after referring to google and a dictionary!
kutra sarvE janAh? atra kopi (kah + api) na pashhyAmi ! |
bibhas |
Sep 20 2005, 08:18 PM
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Bibhas, your impromptu sanskrit is quite excellent ! Mujhe 5 min sochna padta hai to come up with a short sentence, that too after referring to google and a dictionary! vivekah, mama samskrutamapi bahu durbalam. atah EtAni shubhavachanAni svIkAranEchhAmi. kutra sarvE janAh? atra kopi (kah + api) na pashhyAmi ! sarvE prAyah vibhinna vAda-vivAde vilInAh santi. A science that does not deliver us to the portals of metaphysics is a failed science and a religion that does not embrace physics is not grounded in reality.
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shivani |
Sep 20 2005, 11:51 PM
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QUOTE vivekah, mama samskrutamapi bahu durbalam. atah EtAni shubhavachanAni svIkAranEchhAmi. Vivek (multiple from an earlier lesson) meri sanskrit bahut kamzor hai. isliye itni prashansa swikar nahi kar sakta . QUOTE sarvE prAyah vibhinna vAda-vivAde vilInAh santi. sab log alag alag vaad vivaad ( threads) main vilagn hain ?? How did I fair |
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