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Posted by: cinemaniac2 Nov 18 2006, 12:44 PM

Eons have gone by but that voice left people awestruck. Kundan Lal Saigal was the pioneering singer of Hindi film music. He also popularised Ghazals in India. In the span of 15 years, Saigalsaab had acted in 36 films and rendered over 200 songs. A niche craved by the legend with his unique voice. The admirable part of Saigalsaab was that despite super-stardom, K.L. Saigal remained a simple man. Saigal created history with Devdaas - based on Bengali writer Sharadchandra Chaterjee`s novel released in 1935. People all over heard Songs Balam Aao Baso Morey Man Mein and Dukh Ke Ab Din Bitat Nahi.

K.L. Saigal was born at Jammu in Kashmir. His father Amarchand Saigal was employed with Maharaja Pratap Singh. K. L. Saigal was an Arian by birth born on 12th April 1904. At the age of twelve Saigalsaab gave a rendition of Meera Bahjan in the court of Pratap Singh`s court. The Maharaja was impressed and predicted that Saigal had a bright singing future. In Jalhandar, Saigal learnt to sing in Punjabi style. Surprisingly Saigalsaab did not undergo any formal training. The legend however wished to be Ustaad Faiyyaz Khan`s student over which Saigal received the compliment of his life. After listening to K.L. Saigal sing, Khan Saheb later said "I have no knowledge with me to make you a better singer than you are."

At the age of 13 Saigal realised that his voice was cracking. So shocked was the intense singer that he remained silent for many months. A worried family took Saigalsaab to a saint who advised him to practice and cultivate his voice. He did as advised by the saint singlemindedly for three years. Due to which, he was able to attain a difference in tone and texture of notes.

Before his resplendent super-stardom, Saigal was a clerk in Railways and later he became a Hotel Manager, thereafter took up a job with Remington Typewriter Co. for Rs. 80/- a month. Saigal was introduced to music due to his mother.

When he went to Calcutta to become a singer in films, Rai Chand Bhoral assayed his voice and he sang Jhoola Na Jhulao Ri. K. C. Dey, the renowned playback singer was in the adjoining room overheard Saigal. The senior diva came to room where Saigal was and showered compliments on the legend to be. He also gained knowledge after hearing singers like C.C. Saha. He was instrumental for Saigal`s meteoric rise in his film career.

In 1932 Kundan Lal Saigal`s successful career commenced after he signed a contract of Rs. 200/- a month, with New Theatre to act and sing in films. Some of the films in his early days were Subah Ke Sitare, Zinda Laash and Mohabbat Ke Aason. Later on sang songs like Premnagar Mein Basoongi Ghar Main, Tadapat Beeti Din Rain and Prem Ki Ho Jai from the first feature film Chandidas in which Saigal was the lead actor. The songs catapulted Saigal to stardom.

A year after Chandidas in 1935 Devdas benchmarked the star-singers popularity like no other singer before or after. The story of a love-struck and doomed Devdas. The Hindi version in which Saigal starred had immortal arias like Balam Aaye Baso and Dukh Ke Ab Din. The version by Bimal Roy starring Dilip Kumar, Vaijayanti Mala, and Suchitra Sen flopped.

The distinct voice of Saigal transcended Saigal the actor. K. L. Saigal could render light classical with utmost ease. Saigal normally sang in lower octaves, which was emulated by many but was unmatched. It was said that Saigal never recorded without drinking (he used to call a peg Kaali Paanch).

Up till 1946 right from 1932 the Hindi film world was called as K. L. Saigal musical era. According to composer, Naushad, for his last two films Parwana and Shahjahan, Saigal recorded his compositions without his Kaali Paanch (peg). Some believe that Saigalsaab had a premonition of his death and that is the reason why he quickly completed the shooting.


A day before his death, Saigal`s health suddenly took turn. His niece, Durgesh, then 15, read Bhagwad by his bedside throughout the night. Early in the morning, Saigal breathed his last. He was 42 when he passed on 18th January 1947 in Jalhandar, his hometown. K. L. Saigal had expressed his last wish to play his song Jab Dil Hi Toot Gaya, Hum Jee Kya Karenge a song composed Naushad.

The legend passed away depriving music lovers of his celestial voice. Fifty years since his demise Saigal still lingers in the memories of music lovers as K. L. Saigal the immortal singer.



Posted by: cinemaniac2 Nov 18 2006, 12:46 PM

Kundan Lal Saigal was really the first male superstar of Indian Cinema who set the tone for musical melodrama acting in the 1930s and 40s. Though not conventionally good-looking and balding (in fact he always wore a wig to cover his baldness), people responded to his everyman demeanor and to that voice…even when articulating dialogue.

Saigal was born in Jammu and as a child occasionally played Sita in the Ramlila of Jammu. His only formal training apparently came from a little known Sufi peer, Salman Yussuf. The singing tradition he assimilated had little classical rigour but emphasized the poetic blending of syllables into musical forms like the thumri and ghazal. His renditions of Mirza Ghalib's poetry and his identification with its tragic iconography formed the famous Saigal persona.

A school dropout, he worked first as a railway time-keeper and then as a typewriter salesman before B.N. Sircar recruited him at New Theatres. Saigal's style was substantially shaped at New Theatres by R.C. Boral, Pankaj Mullick and Timir Baran.

Saigal's first film was Mohabbat ke Aansoo (1932) but it was with the success of Chandidas (1934) that he became a star.

The following year saw him in his career-defining role - the title role in Devdas (1935) directed by P.C. Barua. The film was a triumph for Saigal and took him to dizzying heights. Saigal brought alive the character of Devdas creating the archetype of the relentlessly luckless, tragic hero. His brooding looks, the vagrant lock of hair, the resonant voice filled with love and despair drove the nation into a frenzy. His songs in the film Balam Aaye Baso Mere Man Mein and Dukh ke Din Ab Beete Nahin became smash hits. In the latter song Saigal obliterates the artificial barriers that separate prose, recitation and song as he breaks the melodic progression of the song by laughing bitterly at his own squalour. In fact, Saigal remains the definitive Devdas even though the role has subsequently been played by such thespians like Dilip Kumar and A. Nageshwara Rao.

Saigal was fortunate in that he worked for an institution like New Theatres. Known for their quality filmmaking, Saigal featured in many of the studio's masterpieces - Didi (Bengali)/ President (Hindi) (1937), Saathi (Bengali)/ Street Singer (Hindi) (1938), Zindagi (1940).

In Street Singer Saigal's rendition of Babul Mora was done live in front of the camera. Though playback had come into vogue, he convinced director Phani Majumdar he would do a better job live in front of the camera. Thus Saigal 'walked the streets' in the studio singing Babul Mora, with the entire orchestra following him out of the camera's reach. The result was magic!


Seeing the popularity Saigal had, Sagar Movietone launched Surendra as an answer to Saigal and though he had a distinguished career of his own, Saigal was still Saigal.

In the early 40s Saigal moved to Bombay working with Ranjit Movietone. Bhakt Surdas (1942) and Tansen (1943) were big hits and consolidated his popularity.

The songs of Tansen are resplendent in their royal glory. The film successfully shapes the classical and semi-classical thumris and dadras to the need of cinema. Above all, the film is still remembered for Saigal's astonishing rendering of Diya Jalao in raga Deepak.

Saigal returned to New Theatres to do Meri Bahen (1944). The film is technically one of Saigal's best films at New Theatres and was known of course for its music with songs like Do Naina Matware and Ae Qatib-e-Taqdeer Mujhe Itna Bata De.

However alcohol was by now fast overtaking Saigal's life. It was said he could only sing only when fortified with liquor. His health began failing. A last ditch effort at abstinence proved useless as he was too far-gone and in early 1947 Saigal passed away in Jullunder. But not before giving us such melodic gems like Mere Sapnon Ki Rani, Ae Dil-e-Bekaraar Jhoom, Jab Dil hi Toot Gaya - from Shah Jehan (1946).

Such was the power and mystique of Saigal's singing that singers like Mukesh and Kishore Kumar started their careers singing in the 'Saigal style' before etching out their own identities.

It is over half a century since Saigal passed away but his haunting resonant, voice continues to enthrall listeners on early morning radio or on some fanatic collector's old gramophone player…



Posted by: cinemaniac2 Nov 18 2006, 12:51 PM

Saigal acted in 36-feature films- 28 Hindi, 7 Bangla and 1 Tamil. After Saigal’s death, based on life and times of K. L. Saigal, B. N. Sircar made film 'Amar Sehgal' (1955). The film contained 19 songs lifted from old films of Saigal. In all, Saigal rendered 185 songs which includes 142 film songs and 43 non-film songs. In the film songs category, there are 110 Hindi, 30 Bangla and 2 Tamil songs. In the non-film category, there are 37 Hindi and 2 each in Bangla, Punjabi and Persian languages.



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Posted by: cinemaniac2 Nov 18 2006, 01:00 PM

QUOTE
When he went to Calcutta to become a singer in films, Rai Chand Bhoral assayed his voice and he sang Jhoola Na Jhulao Ri. K. C. Dey, the renowned playback singer was in the adjoining room overheard Saigal. The senior diva came to room where Saigal was and showered compliments on the legend to be


here is his first song

Jhulna Julaoo

3:07-96kbps

if anyone has more information about this song please post it


Posted by: parag_sankla Nov 18 2006, 01:02 PM

CM2 ji, a great tribute to the legendary singer. Thanks so much for the information.

Parag

Posted by: cinemaniac2 Nov 18 2006, 01:28 PM

Have no information about the following movies
1] Mohabbat Ke Ansoo-1932
2] Subah Ka Sitara-1932
3] Zinda Laash-1932
4] Dulari Bibi-1933
5] Rajrani Meera-1933
6] Rooplekha-1934
7] Daku Mansoor-1934

In 1933 came Puran Bhagat which boosted his career somewhat

the film had four songs by Saigalsaab-the music was by his mentor Rai Chand Boral

1] Avsar Beeto Jaate Prani

3:01-128kbps

2] Bhajoon Main To Bhav Se

2:58-128kbps

3] Din Neeke Beet Jate Hain

3:16-128kbps

4] Radhe Rani De Daro Bansari

3:13-192kbps

enjoy

cm2

Posted by: cinemaniac2 Nov 18 2006, 01:54 PM

next came in 1933 Yahudi Ki Ladki

music was given by Pankaj Mallik and the words were penned by Agha Kashmiri

this movie also had 4 songs by Saigalsaab

1] Lag Gayi Chot

3:18-128kbps

2] Lakh Sahi Ab Pee Ki

3:24-128kbps

3] Nuktacheen Hai Gham E Dil

3:09-192kbps

4] Yeh Tassaruff Allah Allah

3:24-128kbps


Posted by: cinemaniac2 Nov 18 2006, 03:13 PM

QUOTE
Later on sang songs like Premnagar Mein Basoongi Ghar Main, Tadapat Beeti Din Rain and Prem Ki Ho Jai from the first feature film Chandidas in which Saigal was the lead actor. The songs catapulted Saigal to stardom.


Chandidas-1934
R C Boral-Agha Kashmiri

this movie had 3 solos and 2 duets with Uma Sashi

1] Dekhat Vako Hi

2:35-128kbps

2] Preet Mein Hai

3:26-320kbps

3] Tadpat Beete Din

3:13-320kbps


Posted by: cinemaniac2 Nov 18 2006, 03:32 PM

and the two duets with Uma Sashi

1] Prem Ki Ho Jai Jai

3:11-128kbps

2] Prem Nagar Mein

3:19-128kbps




Posted by: cinemaniac2 Nov 18 2006, 04:07 PM

QUOTE
The following year saw him in his career-defining role - the title role in Devdas (1935) directed by P.C. Barua. The film was a triumph for Saigal and took him to dizzying heights. Saigal brought alive the character of Devdas creating the archetype of the relentlessly luckless, tragic hero. His brooding looks, the vagrant lock of hair, the resonant voice filled with love and despair drove the nation into a frenzy. His songs in the film Balam Aaye Baso Mere Man Mein and Dukh ke Din Ab Beete Nahin became smash hits. In the latter song Saigal obliterates the artificial barriers that separate prose, recitation and song as he breaks the melodic progression of the song by laughing bitterly at his own squalour. In fact, Saigal remains the definitive Devdas even though the role has subsequently been played by such thespians like Dilip Kumar and A. Nageshwara Rao.


QUOTE
A year after Chandidas in 1935 Devdas benchmarked the star-singers popularity like no other singer before or after. The story of a love-struck and doomed Devdas. The Hindi version in which Saigal starred had immortal arias like Balam Aaye Baso and Dukh Ke Ab Din. The version by Bimal Roy starring Dilip Kumar, Vaijayanti Mala, and Suchitra Sen flopped.



Devdas-1935
Timir Baran-Kidar Sharma

had 2 solos

1] Baalam Aaye [3 different parts joined together]

2:51-128kbps

2] Dukh Ke Ab Din

3:34-128kbps


Posted by: cinemaniac2 Nov 18 2006, 04:35 PM

QUOTE
But 1935 saw the biggest revolution in the development of the Hindi Film song. At New Theatres in Calcutta, Nitin Bose along with his younger brother Mukul Bose and music director R.C. Boral introduced pre-recorded singing where the song was first recorded and then played back and picturized thus freeing the artiste and the camera from the bondage of the microphone. This was for the film Dhoop Chaon.


Dhoop Chaon-1935

R C Boral/Pankaj Mallik-lyricist????

this movie had two solos

1] Andhe Ki Laathi

3:35-192kbps

2] Jeevan Ka Sukh

3:38-128kbps


Posted by: cinemaniac2 Nov 18 2006, 04:51 PM

the next film

Karwan E Hayat-1935

Music was by K S Bhattacharya-Lyrcist???

one solo

1]Dil Se Teri Nigah

3:14-128kbps

and a duet with some unknown singer

2] Preet Ki Reet

3:10-128kbps


Posted by: cinemaniac2 Nov 18 2006, 05:11 PM

QUOTE
Success followed success and he went on a signing spree acting in great hits like Crorepati, Karwan-e-Hayat, Dharti Mata, President, Pujarin, Dushman, Lagan, My Sister, Zindagi and Street Singer. Needless to say they were lapped by viewers mainly for Saigal’s songs.



Crore Pati-1936 [also known as the Millionaire]

MD-???? Lyricist-????

one solo

1] Jo Naukri Dila De

3:18-128kbps

a duet with Pahadi Sanyal

2] Jagat Mein Prem

3:12-128kbps


Posted by: cinemaniac2 Nov 18 2006, 05:33 PM

next is Pujarin-1936

MD-Timir Baran, Lyricist-???

two solos

1] Jo Beet Chuki So Beet Chuki

3:13-128kbps

2]Piye Ja Piye Ja

3:10-128kbps


Posted by: Harishankar Nov 18 2006, 09:28 PM

QUOTE(cinemaniac2 @ Nov 18 2006, 04:51 PM) *

the next film

Karwan E Hayat-1935

Music was by K S Bhattacharya-Lyrcist???

one solo

1]Dil Se Teri Nigah

3:14-128kbps

and a duet with some unknown singer

2] Preet Ki Reet

3:10-128kbps


The "unknown singer" in the second song is Pahari Sanyal. And here are two more from Karwan-e-Hayat:


Hari

Posted by: bawlachintu Nov 21 2006, 07:39 PM

QUOTE(cinemaniac2 @ Nov 18 2006, 05:33 PM) *

next is Pujarin-1936

MD-Timir Baran, Lyricist-???

two solos

1] Jo Beet Chuki So Beet Chuki

3:13-128kbps

2]Piye Ja Piye Ja

3:10-128kbps

Lyricist: Pandit Bhushan

Posted by: cinemaniac2 Nov 22 2006, 11:37 PM

Next came The Movie-President-1937

the music was jointly composed by R C Boral & Pankaj Mallik

the lyrics were by Kidar Sharma

one song from this movie became very popular-Ek Bangla Bane Nyara

this song again became very popular even among the younger generation of the 70's

when it was featured in the hit Rajesh Khanna movie Do Raste.

Earthmusic lists six songs By Saigal

here are three of them

1] Ek Bangla Bane Nyara

3:22-128kbps

2] Ek Raja Ka Beta

2:58-128kbps

3] Prem Ka Hai Is Jag Mein

3:05-128kbps

the other 3 songs which I do not have are

Maya Rani Ki Nagari Hai

Na Koi Prem Ka Rog Lagaye

Rahegi Na Badariya


pls u/l them if u have

Thanks Harishankar & BC
for their input

cm2

Posted by: cinemaniac2 Nov 23 2006, 12:07 AM

next from the film Dhartimata-1938

the music was given by Pankaj Mallik and the lyrics were by Pandit Sudarshan

this movie had three songs

the 2 solos were

1] Kisne Yeh Sab Khel

3:07-128kbps

2] Man Ki Baat

3:17-128kbps

there was also a truet with Pankaj Mallik & Uma Sashi

3] Duniya Rang Rangeeli

3:37-128kbps



Posted by: cinemaniac2 Nov 23 2006, 01:04 AM

In 1938 there was another movie Street Singer which was a big hit for its songs

the hit song from this movie- Babul Mora Naihar

was made popular again in another Rajesh Khanna movie-Aavishkar

the song was resung this time by popular ghazal singers Jagjit Singh & his wife Chitra Singh

the suprising part now is if you google with Babul Mora Naihar you will not get any hits of

Saigalsaab but only of Jagjit & Chitra on the first two pages- ?????

I always thought this song was a solo, but there is also a duet with Kanan Devi

R C Boral-Arzoo Lucknavi

Firstly the two solos

1] Babul Mora Naihar

3:10-192kbps

2] Jeevan Bin Madhur

3:23-192kbps

Posted by: cinemaniac2 Nov 23 2006, 01:05 AM

net problem

will continue later


Posted by: cinemaniac2 Nov 23 2006, 01:28 AM

correction-Babul Mora Naihar

the lyrics for this song-pls follow this earlier post by brgarg

http://www.hamaraforums.com/index.php?showtopic=12969

Posted by: cinemaniac2 Nov 26 2006, 12:43 PM

continuing....

the other solo

2]Jeevan Been Madhur

3:23-128kbps

and the three duets all with Kanan Devi

3]Babul Mora Naihar

3:08-128kbps

4]Rut Hai Suhani

1:55-128kbps

5]Sanwariya Prem Ki

2:28-128kbps


Posted by: cinemaniac2 Nov 26 2006, 12:58 PM

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Posted by: mmuk2004 Nov 27 2006, 06:32 AM

QUOTE(cinemaniac2 @ Nov 18 2006, 05:41 AM) *


Crore Pati-1936 [also known as the Millionaire]

MD-???? Lyricist-????

one solo

1] Jo Naukri Dila De

3:18-128kbps

a duet with Pahadi Sanyal

2] Jagat Mein Prem

3:12-128kbps


MD: RC Boral
Lyrics: Kidar Sharma
I think "Jagat Mein Prem Hi Prem" is the solo and the duet with Pahadi Sanyal is "Jo Naukri Dila De" smile.gif

CM
What a wonderful thread! I had collected some Saigal songs but now I am gradually listening to them along with your uploads and comments. Thank you bow.gif
Madhavi

Posted by: cinemaniac2 Dec 6 2006, 06:34 PM

the next film was Dushman-1939

music by Pankaj Mallik

lyricist-Arzoo Lucknavi


starting with the popular song

1]Karoon Kya Aas Niraas

3:22-128kbps

the next one is also known as

2]Hazaar shukra ki dekhenge-I have it as Sitam the Zulm the

3:30-128kbps

3]pyari pyari suraton

3:11-128kbps

Missing

Preet Mein Hain Jeevan




Posted by: mmuk2004 Dec 8 2006, 01:00 PM

angry.gif Finally after four tries...

Courtesy HF... I mean the song.... wink.gif biggrin.gif

Posted by: cinemaniac2 Dec 9 2006, 04:14 PM

Thanks Madhavi for the Dushman song

next came Zindagi-1940

Pankaj Mallik-Kidar Sharma

this movie had four songs by Saigalsaab

2 of them became super hits, one of them is yet considered by many as one of the best
lories of all time-Soja Rajkumari Soja.
the other hit Main Kya Janu Kya Jadoo Hain is one of my favourite.

1]Diwana Hoon

3:31-128kbps

2]Jeevan Asha Yehi Hain

2:59-128kbps


Posted by: cinemaniac2 Dec 9 2006, 04:37 PM

next the 2 super hits from this film

3]Main Kya Janu Kya Jadoo Hain

3:04-192kbps

4]Soja Rajkumari Soja

3:00-128kbps


Posted by: cinemaniac2 Dec 17 2006, 08:56 PM

We come to the post 40 era where better info is available about the songs

Film-Lagan-1941

R C Boral-Arzoo Lucknavi

* K L Saigal & Kanan Devi

this movie had 5 solos by K L Saigal and 4 by Kanan Devi

will u/l the Kanan Devi solos in SKS

Missing-Koyi Manush Kitna Bhi Buro Ho

1]Hat Gayi Lo Kali Ghata

3:13-128kbps

2]Kahe Ko Raad Machaye

3:18-128kbps

3]Main Sote Bhaag Jaga Dunga

3:02-128kbps

4]Yeh Kaisa Anyay Daata

3:26-128kbps


Posted by: cinemaniac2 Dec 17 2006, 09:11 PM

the next 2

Posted by: balajigade Dec 18 2006, 10:11 PM

QUOTE(cinemaniac2 @ Nov 18 2006, 03:13 PM) *

QUOTE
Later on sang songs like Premnagar Mein Basoongi Ghar Main, Tadapat Beeti Din Rain and Prem Ki Ho Jai from the first feature film Chandidas in which Saigal was the lead actor. The songs catapulted Saigal to stardom.


Chandidas-1934
R C Boral-Agha Kashmiri

this movie had 3 solos and 2 duets with Uma Sashi

1] Dekhat Vako Hi

2:35-128kbps

2] Preet Mein Hai

3:26-320kbps

3] Tadpat Beete Din

3:13-320kbps


The song preet men hai jeevan jokhon... is from 'Dushman' (1939)

--Balaji

Posted by: Faizel Jan 6 2008, 05:50 AM

C.M.Sahab Hope you wouldn't mind,

Bhakt Surdas,1942
Gyan Dutt,
Dina Nath Madhok,

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