Malayalam, a language of God's own country! |
Malayalam, a language of God's own country! |
unni |
Jul 3 2005, 06:01 PM
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QUOTE(priya @ Jul 3 2005, 04:32 AM) Could not write concede in Malayalam, eh? Oh well neither can I. Vittutarunnu? Vittukodukkunnu? Not official terminology that. What would round be? Vattom!!!! But this round wunly? Pishukan aanu alle? Enikkittu--literally 'for me'--colloquially enikkittu vechittundu would be 'he has it in store for me'. Guru ko pranam karo bete. Oops! Mashene namaskarikyu mone Unni!!!! PS: Unni aren't we a pitiful pair of Mallus keeping the flag flying and the torch burning and all that? "Vittutarunnu" and "Vittukodukkunnu" would both pass. Think so also "vattom" --- for example a meal course is called "vattom". But I would've used "enikku vendi" --- am not familiar with "enikkittu". Hope Shyam or Lata will clarify. BTW, isn't "maashu" masculine gender? At least in commonly spoken language, I think the English word "teacher" is usually used to denote a female instructor. I once said to a Malayalam expert that there is no word in the language for "snow". He pulled out a huge dictionary and came up with some words, not of them very convincing! Words like 'pani' (pronounced the same as the word for 'fever') which means dew/mist. P.S. In my case the flag-flying will be at half-mast. If you stop trying to make sense of it all, you'll be less confused. Reality is an illusion.
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Priya |
Jul 3 2005, 06:51 PM
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QUOTE(unni @ Jul 3 2005, 06:01 PM) "Vittutarunnu" and "Vittukodukkunnu" would both pass. Think so also "vattom" --- for example a meal course is called "vattom". But I would've used "enikku vendi" --- am not familiar with "enikkittu". Hope Shyam or Lata will clarify. Dunno about 'vattom' excatly for round like in a boxing match. Might pass. But 'enikkittu' is fine. Colloquial as I said. Easy speaking. QUOTE BTW, isn't "maashu" masculine gender? At least in commonly spoken language, I think the English word "teacher" is usually used to denote a female instructor. Ya masha is usually a man but equality ka zamana hai. Oh I hate the usage teachereeee. Time the vocabulary was enhanced. QUOTE I once said to a Malayalam expert that there is no word in the language for "snow". He pulled out a huge dictionary and came up with some words, not of them very convincing! Words like 'pani' (pronounced the same as the word for 'fever') which means dew/mist. Dew is mannja right? Can hima be used for snow or is that sanskrit in origin? Me getting deeper into the mire with my guesses. QUOTE P.S. In my case the flag-flying will be at half-mast. Why is that? |
Lata |
Jul 3 2005, 08:04 PM
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I think Vattom is round...........saddi vattom wud be a meal course.. [ or people sitting in a circle to eat saddi ].........we use both ennikittu and enikkuvendi.......colloquial as Priya said...........ennikittu is used when I have to say "With Me" and enikkuvendi for " For me "
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Priya |
Jul 3 2005, 08:11 PM
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QUOTE(Lata @ Jul 3 2005, 08:04 PM) I think Vattom is round...........saddi vattom wud be a meal course.. [ or people sitting in a circle to eat saddi ].........we use both ennikittu and enikkuvendi.......colloquial as Priya said...........ennikittu is used when I have to say "With Me" and enikkuvendi for " For me " I have also heard vattom being used in the context of immediate time, like in 'this time'. It is often confusing with so many dialectal forms or regional forms of the language even in such a tiny state like Kerala. |
gkshyam |
Jul 4 2005, 12:38 PM
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QUOTE(priya @ Jul 3 2005, 01:04 PM) Ayyo Shyam panditan alla--Malayala vidhooshi ennu parayu. Unni endu parayan aa? Ivide enne tholpikyan pattathathu karanam, veire forumil enikkittu vechittundavum. Pakshe nyanum vittukodikkilla!!! Ayyo......Nyaano??? Endu Parayunnu??? Nyaan valya saadhaarna Oru Paavapatta Jantu aane...... Enniki Attrayokka Malayalam arinyooda.....Ippo tanne Padikyunnu.... Koracha Koracha.....Ingene angene...... Oppichu varunnadaa........ btw....I too am of the opinion that 'Enikkitu' is more of a 'local' usage for a similar meaning to 'Enikki Vendi' or 'For me'.... And Priya......yes.....you are right......so many 'regional' varieties of the same language......Really interesting......Well......its not only the case in Kerala....but also.....other states like Maharashtra......(Many forms of Marathi)........And a typical case to quote would be.....the Innumerable forms of Hindi you can find in Mumbai!!!!!!! Love Music....... LOVE GK
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unni |
Jul 4 2005, 12:47 PM
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QUOTE(gkshyam @ Jul 4 2005, 03:08 AM) And a typical case to quote would be.....the Innumerable forms of Hindi you can find in Mumbai!!!!!!! [/b][/color] Appan ko na tere ko na maarna maangtha hai. Idu Malayalam allalo! If you stop trying to make sense of it all, you'll be less confused. Reality is an illusion.
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gkshyam |
Jul 4 2005, 01:12 PM
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Hehehe......Idu Malayaalam allaa.... Hehhee:)
Btw....Unni Ji.....that was one of the more 'decent' versions of Hindi that I've heard!!! Love Music....... LOVE GK
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Priya |
Jul 4 2005, 01:18 PM
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Actually when I visited Mumbai I could hardly understand the Hindi that was spoken. Same with Hyderabad. Haridwar was different thankfully.
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gkshyam |
Jul 4 2005, 03:19 PM
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Yes Priya.....quite different colloquial usage..tones...accents...words.... everything.....the regional differences affecting the language in a big way....
Btw......the whole of HYD follows the same Hindi....(the kind of Mehmood hindi used by him in some of the movies.....) but within one single city of Mumbai......you can find many different types of Hindi spoken at diff places/ppl etc. Love Music....... LOVE GK
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Priya |
Jul 4 2005, 06:00 PM
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Ayyo pakshe nammal endina Hindi-ine kurachu samsarikyunne? Nammale ividenu odikyandathaanu pakshe poochene aaru mani kettum?
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gkshyam |
Jul 4 2005, 09:37 PM
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Mani kettaan Poocha evideya???
Love Music....... LOVE GK
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Priya |
Jul 5 2005, 12:56 AM
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Nyaan undallo. Enne ellarum poocha ennanu villikyunathu. Enniku 30 poocha undayirunu pazheya veettil. Ippol 3 undu.
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unni |
Jul 5 2005, 01:09 AM
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Adey! Ningaldey poochagaley patti arriyan aanu nengalku thidikkam.
If you stop trying to make sense of it all, you'll be less confused. Reality is an illusion.
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Lata |
Jul 5 2005, 01:20 AM
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ende amme muppadu poochas ende Ritukutti wudnt mind staying with Priya forever
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unni |
Jul 5 2005, 01:22 AM
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Priya:
Lata ningale vilikkunnu. If you stop trying to make sense of it all, you'll be less confused. Reality is an illusion.
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