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Posted by: Pradeep Nov 4 2004, 11:08 AM

New forum new thread. Lemme start with my mother tongue.. Konkani. To know background about this language visit the kamat site: http://www.kamat.com/kalranga/konkani/konkani.htm

Posted by: Nimii Nov 4 2004, 11:18 AM

YIPEEEEEEEEEE I WAS GOING THRU THE SAME LINK RE

n
N plans to create monsters

Posted by: unni Nov 4 2004, 07:00 PM

Would one of our Konkani knowing members please check out the song "Surat ho tau aisi ho" at the following link and confirm that apart from Urdu, Punjabi and Hindi the language in the song is Konkani:
http://www.hamaraforums.com/index.php?showtopic=1966&st=560

Posted by: Nimii Nov 4 2004, 07:26 PM

Unni you mean to say that there some few words in the song that are sung in Konkani??

N?

Posted by: Nimii Nov 4 2004, 07:27 PM

Pradeep have you downloaded the song and heard it re? See what Unni writes!

N ?

Posted by: unni Nov 4 2004, 07:33 PM

There are four singers in that song. The fourth singer, by the name of Francis Waz, sings in what I guessed is Konkani. The singer's name seems Goan.

Posted by: Nimii Nov 4 2004, 07:34 PM

Francis Waz is a typical Goan/mangalore xian name!!

Yep then it has to be konkani. Lets wait for Pradeep's response.

N

Posted by: Nimii Nov 4 2004, 07:41 PM

There are so many konkani songs!!

My favourite one is Rosalyn mujha mogaachi.. shobita bangaaracha kesaachi.. I must search for the tape of konkani songs I have

N

Posted by: Pradeep Nov 4 2004, 08:21 PM

Yes its Goan Konkani... I could only understand few words from those lines.

Posted by: Nimii Nov 8 2004, 10:35 AM

Aaj ka konkani words...

Javanaakka kuhsane javellinchi?

What did you have for lunch..

javanaakka = lunch

kuhsana = what

javellinchi = eat/have

N

Posted by: Chitralekha Nov 8 2004, 11:13 AM

Now how do you say "I need to take a long afternoon nap now" *yawn*

Posted by: Nimii Nov 8 2004, 11:24 AM

[quote=Chitralekha,Nov 8 2004, 11:13 AM]
[/quote]

Now how do you say "I need to take a long afternoon nap now" *yawn*

[/quote]

attuh danpaaruh makka odi needuh kaadakkuh *yawn*

attuh = now
danpaaruh = afternoon
makka = I/me
odi = big/long (tho long would actually be deeguh - but with this context it will be odi)
needuh = nap/sleep
kaadakkuh = take

N

Posted by: Nimii Nov 9 2004, 08:33 AM

Aaj ke liye

Hey lazy wake up!

Aye alschey uttaah!

Aye = Aye

alschey = lazy

uttaah = wake/get up

N

Posted by: Chitralekha Nov 10 2004, 08:07 AM

haha thanks Nimu. How would you say this?

Happy Diwali. Happy New Year.

Posted by: Nimii Nov 10 2004, 08:21 AM

hmmmm...

Deepavali ani Nava varshaa Shubhaashayu

Deepavali = Diwali
Nava Varshaa = New year

Shubhaashayu = Greetings

Posted by: Nimii Nov 10 2004, 08:22 AM

Found a link for more sentence - translated in Konkani

http://www.ourkarnataka.com/learn_konkani/learn_konkani_main.htm

N

Posted by: Pradeep Nov 17 2004, 11:58 AM

O Nanhe Se Farishte
O Saan Deva

Tujh Se Yeh Kaisa Naata
Tugele Vottu Hain Kasale sambandha

Kaise Yeh Dil Ke Rishte..
Kasale Hein Hridaya sambandha

Posted by: Nimii Nov 17 2004, 06:20 PM

wah wah kitle chanda karunu mannathaa re tu !!

mechuvunnu gelli haanva

N

Posted by: Mandrake May 28 2005, 01:46 PM

Wow!! So there used to be a thread for learning konkani too!!!

I would love to get a working knowledge of this language.

Will someone restart this?

Also, since the pronunciations are so critical, would someone post audio clips along with the sentences here?

Simple, used-in-daily-life sentences...

Posted by: Nimii May 28 2005, 04:45 PM

Yep Mandrake .. we gotto have the forum coz two of the 5 admin are konks here

N
ps: I knew you are one too long ago

Posted by: Mandrake May 28 2005, 04:52 PM

That's amazing, Nimii, considering that we've never exchanged posts with each other!
How did you latch on to this?
Are you an 'empath' too?

Posted by: Nimii May 28 2005, 09:52 PM

Lets say I keep a watch on everyone after all Admin hoon na

N

Posted by: gkshyam Jun 21 2005, 05:44 PM

Whats "Empath"??? (Some Konk word???)

Posted by: Mandrake Jun 21 2005, 05:58 PM

LOL... GKS, gotcha!!!!!!!!!!!!

Google out 'empath' and you'll be surprised to learn something really interesting!!

And if you have the patience, get enlightened by reading 'The Empath Report'. You can easy find it by googling.

It's a real eye-opener...

Posted by: Nimii Jun 21 2005, 07:23 PM

http://www.geocities.com/christabelle67/TheUniversalEmpathIndex1.html

he he he!!

Empath: n. 1. A person who has the ability to experience empathy towards another person, and/or animate/inanimate objects, in part or from all of the above definition. 2. A person who is sensitive to the emotions in others.

mana gelle vhe re Shyamu ani Mandrakeaah?

Mind(understand) did it enter Oye Shyam and Mandrake. <word to word translation = WTWT>

Shyam and Mandrake did you understand

N

Posted by: Lata Jun 21 2005, 07:37 PM

Nimii,

Do u have this song undir mama muiza.......If u can also translate this song it wud be great. Munna bada pyaara kaa tune hai

Posted by: gkshyam Jun 21 2005, 07:41 PM

Does it mean...."Did it enter your mind..Shyam and Mandrake???"

Posted by: gkshyam Jun 21 2005, 07:43 PM

Hmm....Yes that's a wonderful..catchy...peppy song....I've heard Remo Fernandez sing it on TV.....Gr88 song....would be really great if someone has it!!!

Posted by: gkshyam Jun 21 2005, 07:47 PM

I'ld like to know one more thing...Is there only ONE KONKANI??? I mean....does the language differ from place to place??? I mean....the Konkani spoken in different parts of India....Karnataka, Goa, Maharashtra etc.... ....can someone throw more light on this???

Posted by: Nimii Jun 21 2005, 09:21 PM

Ayyo that may not be the konkani I know I speak the Dakshina Canara Konkani

N

Posted by: Nimii Jun 21 2005, 09:26 PM

Haan there is a major difference..

Goan/Mangalore Xian speak somewhat similar

North Canara Konkani is a bit different (probably Marati influence)

South Canara Konkani has the influence of Kannada in it.

N

Posted by: gkshyam Jun 21 2005, 09:58 PM

Hmm....Yes Nimmi....I guessed so.....that there might be some difference....Thanks for pointing that out to me...

PS: Btw...I know a song in Konkani....."Kaay Bolelo Kombdo Maazo ...Mai Makaa Dilelo.....Sakaali Uthun Kombdo Maazo Saadhu Ghaarntalo...." [the meaning is....something like.....I can't find my cock...(Kombdo)......since I woke up in the morning...I find it missing....something of that sort.....]

Guess that should be North Kanara Konkani....(has some Marathi influence na???)...what about your Vishesh Tippani on this???

Posted by: Nimii Jun 21 2005, 10:02 PM

Nope Shyam this too is typical goanese konkani! Kaai bolelo.. (Goan konkani does have an infl of marati too!)

N :|

Posted by: gkshyam Jun 21 2005, 10:37 PM

Oh Wow!!!! Me doing some good learning of Konkani!!! GR888 !!! Kaay Bolelo Nimmi???

Posted by: Nimii Jun 21 2005, 10:50 PM

vhai vhai ek puni sikkloh!

yes yes one atleast learnt!

(yes you have atleast learnt one thing!)

N

Posted by: Mandrake Jun 21 2005, 10:52 PM

(Mandrake watches humbly from the corner: how can all these people speak the language he yearns to learn?
"I need to keep trying" he whispers to himself...)

Posted by: Nimii Jun 22 2005, 10:05 AM

Mandrake sanglaa nuhvhe haanva tukka sikkaithaamunu kasala thonda puggaithaa?

Mandrake told you na that I will teach you.. why are you pouting (literal meaning > why are you swelling your face )

N

Posted by: Mandrake Jun 22 2005, 06:21 PM

Nimii, it hurts and hurts and hurts. Really. To be able to read all those words, to ACTUALLY make sense of them and sense HOW close they are to marathi - and not to know how to pronounce them...
You will not know what that means...

Posted by: Nimii Jun 23 2005, 08:28 AM

ayyo deva! What is to be done with this guy!

Pradeepah kasana karchey hakka yoh rudthaamu

N

Posted by: Mandrake Jun 23 2005, 04:06 PM

ayyo Nimii, relax

I was just giving you a rope to pull my leg (read that as hang me? )

Posted by: Bertie Wooster Jul 11 2005, 04:10 AM

maje dukh jaana??

I SO want to be able to speak Konkani like my peeps in Goa do! With those nasal intonations. It hurts me to listen to Konkani spoken by someone who's lived in M'rashtra most of his life ... yours truly for one. You may get all the words right, but if don't get that tone, you ain't there! Kalle mare tuka?

Posted by: Mandrake Jul 11 2005, 08:59 AM

Bertie !!! Ek tum hi to ho jo mera dukkh jaan sake
A language as beautiful as Konkani is no good learnt, if we cannot pronounce the words correctly

Posted by: Nimii Aug 1 2005, 06:36 PM

How about my typing a konk dish recipe everyday..

Is anyone interested?

N

Posted by: Mandrake Aug 1 2005, 07:31 PM

Of course!!

Provided you can give a step by step procedure and the exact quantity of ingredients.

You see, I do not want to depend upon Hojo to guide me

Posted by: Nimii Aug 1 2005, 07:34 PM

No who the h*** is Hojo?

Step to step... kyon?

1. Ingredients

2. Method of preparation..

3. Garnishing..

Wont that suffice?

I am gonna reproduce my ggrandma's cookery book (will tell you in pm who she was!)

N

Posted by: Mandrake Aug 1 2005, 08:01 PM

Ttheek hai - send in the first one: let me try preparing it.
Hojo, incidentally is the cook at Xanadu

Posted by: nm007 Aug 1 2005, 08:01 PM

This whole "give me recipe and I will cook" doesn't really work well for me . I belong to the traditional indian male "give me food and I will eat"

So when can I visit you Nimmijii for the great konkaNii food ?? (sorry for the "maan na maan main teraa mehemaan approach )

anyway, here is my contribution to this thread. (was planning to do it for a long time)
This is a konkaNii poem by poet borkar read by pu. la. deshpaa.nDe.
I will try to transliterate the lyrics and then hope that some konkaNii guru will translate it. (I understand the gist quite OK, may be borkar's konkaNii is maraThisized, or may be konkaNii is not very difficult to understand for someone who understands marathi)

so here is
tyaa disaa vaDaakaDe
poet: baa. bha. borakar
read by: pu. la. deshapaanDe

lyrics to follow

Posted by: Nimii Aug 1 2005, 08:04 PM

Mandrake by the time I teach how to cook a konk dish I might turn into something else.. courtesy you!

Nm thank you!!!!!!! I shall wait for the lyrics, downloads to door ki baat hai.


N

Posted by: nm007 Aug 1 2005, 08:22 PM

Ok here goes

devanaagarii (I suppose that is the script used by konkaNii)

त्या दिसा वडाकडे गडद तिनीसाना
मंद मंद वाजत आयली तुजी गो पैंजणा

मौन पडले सगळ्या राना शिरशिरून थांबली पाना
कवळी जाग आयली तणा झेंबता झेंबताना

पैसुल्यानं वाजली घांट दाटलो न्हैचो कंठ काठ
सावळ्यांनी घमघमाट सुटलो त्या खिणा

फुल्ल्यो वैर चंद्रज्योती रंध्रांनी लागल्यो वाती
नवलांची जौत लागली शकुनलक्षणा

गळ्या सुका डोळ्या दुका लकलकली जाउनी थीका
नकळताना येक जाली आम्ही दोघाय जणा

वडफळांच्या अक्षदात कितलो वेळ न्हायचो न्हायचो
मुपले सगळे चंद्रलोक इंद्रनंदना

त्यातले काय नुल्ले आज सगळ्या जीणे आयली सांज
तरी अकस्मात तुजी वाजती पैंजणा

कान्सुलानी भोवता भुवर अंगार दाटे फुलता चवर
पट्टी त्यान्ना सपना तीच घट्टी जाग्रणा

त्या दिसा वडाकडे गडद तिनीसाना
मंद मंद वाजत आयली तुजी गो पैंजणा


itrans

tyaa disaa vaDaakaDe gaDad tiniisaanaa
ma.nd ma.nd vaajat aayalii tujii go pai.njaNaa

maun paDale sagaLyaa raanaa shirashiruun thaa.nbalii paanaa
kavaLii jaag aayalii taNaa jhe.nbataa jhe.nbataanaa

paisulyaan.n vaajalii ghaa.nT daaTalo nhaicho ka.nTh kaaTh
saavaLyaa.nnii ghamaghamaaT suTalo tyaa khiNaa

phullyo vair cha.ndrajyotii ra.ndhraa.nnii laagalyo vaatii
navalaa.nchii jaut laagalii shakunalakshaNaa

gaLyaa sukaa DoLyaa dukaa lakalakalii jaa_unii thiikaa
nakaLataanaa yek jaalii aamhii doghaay jaNaa

vaDaphaLaa.nchyaa akshadaat kitalo veL nhaayacho nhaayacho
mupale sagaLe cha.ndralok i.ndrana.ndanaa

tyaatale kaay nulle aaj sagaLyaa jiiNe aayalii saa.nj
tarii akasmaat tujii vaajatii pai.njaNaa

kaansulaanii bhovataa bhuvar a.ngaar daaTe phulataa chavar
paTTii tyaannaa sapanaa tiich ghaTTii jaagraNaa

tyaa disaa vaDaakaDe gaDad tiniisaanaa
ma.nd ma.nd vaajat aayalii tujii go pai.njaNaa

Posted by: gkshyam Aug 1 2005, 08:43 PM

Kya hua.....Cooking lessons.......shuru hone se pehle hi band ho gayi??? I was hoping for something great!!!

GKS_Cooker (Paresh Rawal Ishtyle.....)

Posted by: Mandrake Aug 1 2005, 08:47 PM

GKS, Nimii 'chickened' out

Posted by: Lata Aug 2 2005, 05:10 AM

Ye bawarchi khane se kaunsi khushboo aareli hai : inhaling deeply : Nimii....please please mujhe bhi khana pakane ko sikha do naa. step by step instructions please, useful tips bhi welcome, wow woh bhi Ggrandma ki kitaab se.....

Posted by: Nimii Aug 2 2005, 08:25 AM

Now I understand why Mumbai is getting flooded! All my bad-dua on these 2 Mumbaikars - GKS and Jadugar !!

I didnt chicken out! I was so pissed off with this slow vsnl dialup connection I juz disconnected and went to sleep early *not really - was reading a romantic novel*

N
ps: You guys name a fav veg or whatever.. so that I can start from there. And stop whining!

Posted by: Mandrake Aug 2 2005, 09:39 AM

Nimii - aapki bad-dua hum dononko chhorkar baaki sabko lag gayee

Abt the recipes - give me anything that you can do with a combo of potatoes, tomatoes and green peas - coz that is the simplest to start with.
And make it tasty pls

Posted by: Nimii Aug 2 2005, 09:43 AM

Ya your presence is so divine on that city.. that all mumbaikars have to suffer coz of you two !

Oh ok reg.. the recipe.. that would be something like bhaaji *what one has with puris*

N

Posted by: Mandrake Aug 2 2005, 10:31 AM

Call it bhaji or stew or concoction

Just see that it should be yummmmmmmy :slurp slurp:

Posted by: Nimii Aug 2 2005, 12:41 PM

Batata bhaaji recipe dittahn tukka jayithaavhe re Mandrakeaah?

N

Posted by: Mandrake Aug 2 2005, 01:24 PM

Amma, batata bhaaji is no simple thing. To make it realllly yummmm needs skill!

I know many 'cooks' who have dished out the ugggh-est batata bhaaji during my hostel days

Posted by: Nimii Aug 2 2005, 03:18 PM

Tukka samma maruassuh! Batata bhaaji tugale maharashtrian namuna nahi re!

yehn vingadachi.. amchigalehle namuna karchaa.. kanlenhvhe?

N!

Posted by: gkshyam Aug 2 2005, 07:40 PM

Hmm...this is the problem with Konkani.......(Esp'lly the ones N speaks)...... It looks close to neither Marathi.....nor the 2 south-Indian languages I know..........Can't make out anything......and have to 'compulsarily' wait till Mandrake replies to N's comments......

Ohh......toh hamaari wajah se poora Bambai shahar ko aapki bad-dua lag gayi??? (Sharing one honest secret with you Nimii......In between.....I was thinking of 'temporarily' shifting to Bangalore!!!!!! )

Posted by: Nimii Aug 2 2005, 07:49 PM

Ayyo deva tuhn angaa yettavhe? Bangaloruraantu paavsu ayilaari..poora bangalore udtkaanthu dubtaah!

Angaah yevunakka na re tu! Shyamu!!

N
(ppl who can understand are Pradeep and Walker!)

Posted by: nm007 Aug 2 2005, 07:57 PM

whatever nimii ji writes is actually close enough to marathi that I can understand

angaa - here
paavasu - rain
udak - water (actually sanskrit word)

> Ayyo deva tuhn angaa yettavhe? Bangaloruraantu paavsu ayilaari..poora bangalore

are devaa tuu ikaDe yetos? bangalorlaa paa_uus aalaa re .. purNa bangalore

> udtkaanthu dubtaah!

paaNyaamadhe buDel

> Angaah yevunakka na re tu! Shyamu!!

ikaDe ye_uu nako na re tuu shyaamuu!!

or as expressed in a jaidev composed song
banglore naa re na jaao shyaam painyaa paDuu

> N

> (ppl who can understand are Pradeep and Walker!)

(and most marathi people too )

disclaimer: All this stuff is not my opinion, it is just a translation of the opinion expressed by someone. I do not care if "mumbaikar" go to banglore or banglorians go to mumbai, just dont make my beloved pune crowded

Posted by: gkshyam Aug 2 2005, 08:33 PM

Hmmm......Well......Infact, I did understand this p'cular post of Nimii.......(with my li'l bit knowledge of Marathi & hindi).........What I didn't get clearly, was the earlier post by Nimii.......

Posted by: gkshyam Aug 2 2005, 08:34 PM

Another thing......My thought of coming to B'lore was much before the rains........quite a few months back......not today.....

Posted by: nm007 Aug 2 2005, 09:01 PM

yup this one is a bit difficult, Can you please correct me nimii ji?

> Tukka samma maruassuh!

tukka - to you
samma - ?
maruassuh - will hit? (I will hit you with something ??)

this one is of course easy
> Batata bhaaji tugale maharashtrian namuna nahi re!
batata bhaji tumhaare maharashtrian style kii nahi re


>yehn vingadachi..

yeh ?????????
(This one is from vingad ???)

> amchigalehle namuna karchaa.. kanlenhvhe?

hamare yahaanke shTyle se karane kaa -- samajhaa naa?

Posted by: Nimii Aug 2 2005, 09:36 PM

Phew! nm bahut badiya!!

yehn vingadachi means..

this is something else..

vingada means different!

amchigalehle - *amchigaleh - south canara konkani speaking ppl are called amchigelehn so also konkani is referred to amchigelehn in konkani in DK! *dakshina kannada* )

N

Posted by: Bertie Wooster Aug 3 2005, 06:05 AM

That explains it! I am thinking this is not the Konkani I have grown up listening!!

Btw, I wanted to let you know that the Konkani poem nm uploaded on this thread is an absolute gem! I see it has hardly any downloads and was wondering if y'all missed it - like I did - in all this konkani talk

Thanks nm.

Posted by: Bertie Wooster Aug 3 2005, 06:07 AM

Can you make Zhinga Masala?

Also, I want to know too who your grandma was...was she someone famous??

Posted by: Nimii Aug 3 2005, 08:08 AM

For SK konkanis yes her book was presented to every bride who started a new home!

Bertie amgaleh konkani is different! I did mention my konkani is so typical of the Gowda Saraswat lot of Dakshina Kannada!

N

Posted by: gkshyam Aug 3 2005, 11:39 AM

Wow....So the grand-daughter of such an illustrious garndmother...... Kyaa baat hai.... Toh ho jaaye kuch khaas - from Grandma's book???? (Or rather, on 2nd thoughts......shaayad aapki naani ne aapko directly sikhaayi hogi na??? Would prefer some such recipes......books wale baadme ........what say??? (Kaay saangte???? Or something else in ur konkani??? )

Posted by: gkshyam Aug 3 2005, 11:42 AM

By the way.......forgot to add something in the upper post........ So ..with all the direct training from Grandma dear........N is all ready to start married life and new home.....ehh????

Posted by: Nimii Aug 3 2005, 11:48 AM

Gks nee adi vaanga porey da! Kalayanam gilayanam ellam kidayaathu! Nan endrum kanniyaga vazha virumbukiren! (that is specially to GKS in tamil)

Actually GGrandma was not easy to please!! The beauty of her book was the recipe were typically made with minimun quantity of ingredients esp for a person who tries out the dish the first time. IF one likes it they can double the quantity so that it can serve 2 or more accordingly!

N

Posted by: visuja Aug 3 2005, 06:37 PM

*Thud*...*Wham* ...*Dishoom* ..*Boom* .....

Nimii .. U not married !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! tukka lagna naahi zhaala ?? (thats korathi ... konkani + marathi :-D)

Why was I under a wrong impression !?????????????????? : unsure :

arey.. shaadi nahin karegi to how will u pass on yr Ggrandma's legacy ?? waise 90+ ki umar mein shaadi karna 'almost' naamumkin hai .. ;-)
Isliye HF pe recipes dekar koi worthy successor dhoondh rahi ho ?!? : camera : ( : a bulb appears over V's head : ) .. icon pls

Do suggest something with palak and karela .... yummy combo ... :-P... no seriously, I love karela :-)

Vivek
PS : Ive been indicating icon pls at several threads now, but 'icon'ist nowhere to be seen ... : camera : .

Posted by: Mandrake Aug 3 2005, 06:51 PM

Vivek, your problem can be solved easily : right thumb up :

Next time you write 'icon pls', also write 'iconist pls' next to it... :wink + guffaw :

Posted by: Nimii Aug 3 2005, 06:53 PM

Few more days and may be then I can get back to using icon.

What is virtual life with no emoticons!

Tsk tsk!

N
ps: Yo Vivekaah kasan re ?

Posted by: Lata Aug 3 2005, 08:30 PM

I too love karela .......Nimii.....when r u gonna give the recipes minus Broccoli all subzis r welcome tere recipe ke chakkar mein do din khana nahin banaya maine

Posted by: gkshyam Aug 3 2005, 09:08 PM

WOW...WOW!!!!! Kya baat hai.......Yahaan sab Karela-lovers dikh rahe hain!!! I'm in the team too!!! A Karela-Lover since birth!!!! And all my relatives used to consider me mad or 'abnormal' or 'rare species' in my childhood!!!

Ohh...."Vivekaah" (Nimmi Konkani style!!! ) so u thought N is married woman ehh??? Well......Aise kya problem hai N??? Are you just bugged with the idea of marriage??? Or "Against it" or "Anti-marriage" ??? Or some other problem???? I had never percieved that you would be a girl (ok ok...paati)......who would have problems with the idea of marriage!!! :WIERD: (Icon & Iconist plss... )
Kaay zhaala re tula ???

Posted by: gkshyam Aug 6 2005, 01:15 AM

Hmm.......Amchigelen???? Kaay zhaala??? Gas Band zhaale ka????

Posted by: Mandrake Aug 6 2005, 10:43 AM

Nimii-JI, pehle khaane pe bulaya. Aur ab sab kuchh gaayab?

(How do you say that in Konkani?)

Posted by: Nimii Aug 6 2005, 10:47 AM

Pudeh jevnaa appailehn attuh sakkada disanaatileh gellichi vhe?

N
ps: Lata wants some recipes for the weekend. I asked her what veggies she has in her refrigerator.. No response as yet. Awaiting her response.

Posted by: Mandrake Aug 6 2005, 12:49 PM

Oh, Lata has potatoes, tomatoes, green peas and cauliflower

Kya milega? (wish I could rrrreally learn to speak Konkani )

Posted by: Nimii Aug 6 2005, 01:43 PM

Ok Mandrake! ek divasu kandituh konkani sikkthaalo tuhn ... bejaaru paavnukkah..

(definitely one day you sure to learn konkani.. dont feel sad)

Here is what I cooked today - Batata Saang..

(Saang is a spicy dish - is basically a gravy oriented one).

abbreviations - Tablespoon - tbspn Teaspoon - tspn

The gravy ingredients conventionally are ground.

For eg. dhania, red chillies, are stir fried in little oil and then ground to a fine paste adding very little water and a marble sized tamarind - this gives you the sour taste).

*The same thing can be done in the instant way - like I do. I use coriander powder (1 1/2 tbspn), red chilly powder - 1 tspn (depends on how spicy you can manage!), tamarind powder (I add 2 tbspn ). - 1 tsp sambar powder can be added to enhance the taste! - These powders can be added in the place of paste after the onions are fried to a light brown colour*

<THE ABOVE IS THE MIXTURE REQUIRED FOR THE GRAVY).

1/2 kg potatoes or mebbe even 1 or 2 more depending on how you prefer your dish to be (some ppl prefer gravy to contents .. like in my case).

4 medium sized onions

Boil and peel the potatoes and dice them to a medium sized cubes. Onions should be chopped - size of the chopped pieces should be visible in the gravy - which means not finely chopped!)

Now keep some oil in a kadai.. and add some mustard (1/2 tsp) and wait for it to splutter. Add some curry leaves .. and add onions and fry them till they turn slightly brown.. Then add the mixture*/paste prepared earlier to the fried onions and stir nicely. You can add some haldi powder if you like. Add the required amt of salt (in this case 2 tspns). and stir properly for about 3 to 4 minutes. Now add the diced potatoes and mix properly. Add 1/ 2 cup of water and mix well. Cover and cook for another 5 minutes, on slow fire.

Remove the same from the fire and open the kadai and stir again, you can crush a couple of potatoes with a crusher if you find you have added a little more water than you shld. This would make the gravy thicker.

Now you can have it with rice (ofc with dhal) or rotis.

N

Posted by: Lata Aug 6 2005, 07:48 PM

Mandrake,

Incidentally U r right. I only have the above veggies u mentioned Havent done my veggie shopping. I also have murungakkai [ shevgyacha shenga ] Nimmi...uski koi subzi bata de naa.....no sambaar please

Posted by: Bhirgu Aug 6 2005, 08:04 PM

Lata

This man , Mandrake is really a magician. He told me something personal about me today, and he was spot on.

Now if he would only tell me the winning powerball numbers for next week!

Anil

Posted by: Lata Aug 6 2005, 08:11 PM

Anil........if u win.......then fifty fifty....waht say?

Posted by: Nimii Aug 6 2005, 10:14 PM

We call it masheenga shaanguh!

Yes you can make fryums out of it.. Mix a little chilli powder with salt, hingu and add a few drops of water to make the batter. Roll the cut drumsticks and fry them on slow fire.

They make an excellent chewy eats!

N

Posted by: Nimii Aug 7 2005, 04:09 PM

Lata, Mandrake, GKS where have you guys vanished..

Wanted me to give the recipes.. ab when I started writing sab gayab!

Tsk tsk kasaney jallahki ankhaa sakkadakka...

N

Posted by: Mandrake Aug 7 2005, 04:27 PM

Yo Nimii, pls carry on.
Still haven't tried my hand at the saang - will do so shortly.

Anything spicy (as in chatpata - not overspiced) with gravy (preferred) or without gravy is fine.

My personal thumbrule is: to prepare an extremely tasty dish with the simplest of materials/garnishings.

Whatever fits that definition is more welcome

And pls serve your recipes with some icons

Posted by: Nimii Aug 7 2005, 04:33 PM

Ya Mandrake try the shortcut methods.. remember these days with verylittle time on hand.. we gotto eat stuff that is tasty and be prepared real fast

Another of my favourite is coriander chutney!

A bunch of coriander leaves, (accordingly add green chillies) in my case I will add 4 green chillies, tamarind and salt.. to suit your taste..

Put it in a small jar of the mixie and run the mixie juz for a min or two..

Excellent spicy chutney to eat with rotis or puris!!

N

Posted by: Mandrake Aug 7 2005, 04:36 PM

Honestly, the mouth waters even as I read this :slurp: :drool:

Posted by: Nimii Aug 7 2005, 04:41 PM

You bet!! I juz remembered the dish .. must make it .. aaj sabzi kharidte waqt I must pick more coriander leaves...

ab tea time I am making home made pizzas

I am sure my niece will whack all of it mere liye ek chota sa piece rakhegi :E

N:(

Posted by: Lata Aug 7 2005, 08:20 PM

Nimii..........koi teekhi gravy wali subzi bata naa.......shall try ur batata saang and tell u .......do u make vettal kozhyambu?..........gimme the pakka madrasi recipe na.

Posted by: tusharhaldanker82 Aug 7 2005, 11:20 PM

Wow, I didn't know this thread existed. I am too a Goan.

Khup baren dislem, Pradeep aani nimii Goicheen te aayakun.
(nice to learn that pradeep and nimii are Goans)

Aaning kon Goicho aasa ?
(are there any other Goans?)

Posted by: Nimii Aug 7 2005, 11:22 PM

Tushar ami Goinchi nahi.. ami Mangaloorchi

WELCOME TO KONKANI THREAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

n

Posted by: tusharhaldanker82 Aug 8 2005, 12:52 AM

I see. Even Pradeep is from Mangalore?

Do everyone in Mangalore speak konkani?

Posted by: gkshyam Aug 8 2005, 02:12 AM

Hi Nimii.....I'm back here.....Aane mein thodi der ho gayi....... Yes...Noted those recipes.....shall try them out hoprefully soon enough.....

Hey you know what......I've been writing to Lata for recipes of home-made (non-oven) Pizzas......Unhone toh aaj tak reply hi nahi di.. ....Accha hua tumne woh topic chhed liya.....Ab tumhaare gale padta hoon...... Can you help me out with that??? The thing's that......there's no oven @ home.....And I enjoy experimenting with all sorts of cooking....... And the ONLY way for me to try making Pizzas at home...is on the gas.....PAN par rakhke...... But till date....whenever I've tried my hand @ making Pizzas.......The base has ALWAYS burnt (without exception)!!! heehhe.....I mean......even before the pizza begins to bake....and the cheese at the top begins to melt.....the base already starts burning....... Can you tell some fool-proof methods to make good Pizzas???

Posted by: Nimii Aug 8 2005, 08:18 AM

Tushar: No not all of us in Mangalore speak in Konkani.. THere are kannada speaking and tulu speaking people too!

GKS: Sure da! No probs.. before the microwave came I used to do it on an ordinary tava. You are burning the base probably coz you are putting it on high flame. Further always remember to stir fry all the vegetables (they should be cut finely - for easy cooking) and apply some grease on the tava and cook on very very slow fire.

For the tomato base - a simple spicy recipe that I developed - I chop onions and garlic very very fine and fry them till brown and red chilli powder and stir for so more time.. Add tomato puree and a little water and cook till you get the required consistency.

Veggies - baby corn, capiscum, onions, tomatoes - chop them lengthy (what you call juliennes)

Use mozarella cheese - grate and garnish..

N

Posted by: gkshyam Aug 8 2005, 03:53 PM

Thanks so much Nimii.......

Oh yes.....I do try keeping it on low flame......The problem is.....I always use the Pizza base that you get in the shops (Kwality brand).....and they are too thick (not hard.....normal....soft ones....but thick and fat... ) So....even after say...7-10 mins or so....The base....and the toppings are not cooked at all.....(not even 'warmed'.. ) But the base is already burnt.... (I too fry the veggies....and also grease the pan....)

Hmm.....the tomato base......shall try out ur recipe......Only thing is...I dont eat garlic.......toh...will try it with all other ingreients kept the same....

What do you do for the pizza base re? And are there any other ways to make sure the pizza is cooked...and yet not burnt???

Posted by: Nimii Aug 8 2005, 03:57 PM

You need to use a thinner base (I get the local nilgiris one!).. and the tava should be thicker, thin tava heat up faster!

N

Posted by: Nimii Aug 8 2005, 03:57 PM

You can leave out the garlic!

N

Posted by: gkshyam Aug 8 2005, 04:23 PM

yes....!!! (the base's still a problem though..... Will have to check out if I can get thinner ones elsewehere.......but Kwality wala.....sasta bhi hai.....and convenient to get anywhere.... )

Posted by: Mandrake Aug 8 2005, 04:29 PM

GKS, Kwality works fine. I assume you do keep the pizza covered with a vessel while baking?

Posted by: gkshyam Aug 8 2005, 04:42 PM

Accha??? Kwality works fine??? (Infact I've already got a pack lying in the fridge for some days now.....Yet to open it.... ) Filhaal toh wohi try karoonga...

Well....I do not cover the pizza with any vessel......Haan lekin.....Woh pan ki dhakkan se toh pan ko zaroor dhakta hoon.... Must try some vessel ...now that you've suggested....

Posted by: Mandrake Aug 8 2005, 04:51 PM

Pan ka dhakkan also should do. However, a deeper vessel will give it more volume to simulate the box oven. That gives reasonably more uniform heating to the pizza.
The edges of the dhakkan are rather close as compared to the top, so the periphery of the pizza gets done earlier. If you wait for the top to be done, the edges get burnt.
See that the vessel is not touching the pizza.

Posted by: Nimii Aug 8 2005, 05:08 PM

Another alternative u could do is.. work on the base first and then put the toppings and cover cook on slow fire till the cheese melts.. Always try on a small sized pizza base for experiments

What M says is true too!

N

Posted by: Lata Aug 8 2005, 09:48 PM

are wah....ahchha discussion chal raha hai.........if u add a little sugar to the tomato base it tastes fantastic.......sugar compliments the tangy flavour of the tomato.........I also like to garnish the pizza with chilli juliennes i.e if u like it spicy

Posted by: gkshyam Aug 9 2005, 01:43 AM

Accha??? Yahaan toh badi tips de rahi ho.....PM ka reply dene nahi hota na???

Posted by: Lata Aug 9 2005, 02:46 AM

ruk na avaniavittam ke din badaaa sa mail likhti hoon .....India mein kitna ahchha manate hain na ab to Diwali tak tyohaar hee tyohaar.....what fun......yahaan pe to bas hum chaar log hee hain .........cant even burst crackers for Diwali ......diya jalayenge to ghar jalne ka dar rehtaa hai

Posted by: gkshyam Aug 9 2005, 02:37 PM

Heyy Lata....always have been hearing stories from NRI's abt such restrictions abroad.....in celebrating festivals..... how far is it true re? I mean......I don't doubt the authenticity of what you said......But maybe you could throw more light on it for my understanding???

Posted by: gkshyam Aug 16 2005, 02:41 PM

Lata??? where are you? Are you off to celebrating some festival???

Posted by: gkshyam Aug 16 2005, 02:42 PM

And Nimii......your cookery classes ka kya hua re??? Waiting for the next segment to start....

Posted by: Nimii Aug 16 2005, 02:49 PM

Gks kolai seinjichiduven elloraiyum! yaarum recipe try panni paarkale so me no posting any more recipes :E

N:E

Posted by: gkshyam Aug 16 2005, 03:22 PM

OHOH... Appidiyaa... (rememer SPB 'speaking' that in Ek Dujhe ke liye??? ) Seri....vera yaarum try seyyata yenna.....naan try senju....feedback kandippa kudukaren..... what say???

Posted by: Nimii Aug 16 2005, 03:29 PM

grrr Tamil in konkani forum!

Vhai firstah karnu paley magiri anikkai disheshaache recipes dittah!

Jayathavhe?

N

Posted by: visuja Aug 16 2005, 03:32 PM

Me again raasta bhatak gaya ... This Konkani thread only, no ??

Me too lazy to try new recipes Nimz .. ..khud ke liye kaun itni mehnat karega haan.. koi 'inspiration' hoti to kuchh aur baat hoti filhaal to instant noodles aur curd rice / pickle se kaam chalaaoing ....

*curses bachelor life*
V

Posted by: Nimii Aug 16 2005, 03:35 PM

Vivekahh! Ayyo rama! Dont curse yourself so much re!! Tera bhi din aayega.. and then u will cry where are those great bachelor days hehehehe

Ab filal sit and study

N

Posted by: gkshyam Aug 16 2005, 03:43 PM

99 year old experienced paati speaking....

Posted by: Nimii Aug 16 2005, 06:03 PM

Ya ya purrrrrrrrrrrfect !

N

Posted by: gkshyam Aug 21 2005, 12:06 AM

Wots wrong???? Mee kaay bolelo??? All gone off???

Posted by: gkshyam Aug 23 2005, 08:34 PM

Kaay bolelo Kombdo maazo maai maka dilelo.....
Sakali uthun kombdo maazo saadhu ghaarntaalo.......
Re kombdyaa baaa.....re kombdya shoo.......
re kombdya baa baa baa baa....re kombdyaa shoo.....

That's the least I cud blabber in Konkani to hope to get somebody back here... (My only and only knowledge of this language is this song that I'd learnt looong back.. ) (yes....not the dakshina konkani.....this is the other one..... )

Posted by: gkshyam Sep 6 2005, 03:44 PM

HAPPY BIRTHDAY NIMII!!!!!!!!! From all @ the Konkani forum.....

PS: Couldn't think of any better idea to revive this thread .....Birthday gal....

Posted by: Nimii Sep 6 2005, 06:42 PM

WAH WAH VERY GOOD CHAANG KAAMA KELLEH TUNVHE !!

n

Posted by: gkshyam Sep 6 2005, 08:21 PM

Thank You!!! Birthday Divashi Kaa Kaamaa Kele Tunvhe??? (As usual.....me back to my 'experimental' language usage!!!! )

Posted by: Nimii Sep 7 2005, 08:56 AM

YOU ARE ASKING HAVE YOU DONE THE JOB FOR BURDAY!!

WHAT JOB?? BURP!! YA I ATE WELL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

n

Posted by: gkshyam Sep 7 2005, 05:42 PM

WOW!!!!!......So I was close to what I actually wanted to ask!!!! I was actually supposed to mean What all did you do on your birthday.......

So.....tunvhe khoob jevan kele??? huh??? (Now what that's supposed to mean??? )

Posted by: Nimii Sep 7 2005, 05:55 PM

Chaanguh karnuh jevan jehvli vhe!!

That is how it shld be :party2

for which I will say..

Vhai re vhai samma jehvli!

Yes re Yes very well ate.

<literal translation>

Posted by: gkshyam Sep 7 2005, 06:40 PM

Jevan 'tavura' Kaahee kaama kele naahin vhe??? (Amazing collage of languages na!!!! )

My 'intended' translation: Looks like, you haven't done anything other than eating....heh???

Posted by: Nimii Sep 7 2005, 11:28 PM

naahin = nai vhe!

we dont say tavura (sounds tamil )

jehvana shonu ani kasa nai kaama karni vhe!

N

Posted by: gkshyam Sep 10 2005, 01:43 PM

Ayyo!!!! Konkani seems much tougher than I thought!!!!

Posted by: Nimii Sep 10 2005, 01:53 PM

Then what

Posted by: gkshyam Sep 10 2005, 02:13 PM

BOOHOOHOO

Posted by: gin_ger_ale Nov 29 2005, 03:08 AM

Me's here too. Another language I want to master or so I think!
Nimz, will you be my teacher?

Posted by: Nimii Nov 29 2005, 08:26 AM

Yes yes Ingiz definitely!!!!!!!!!!!!!

N

Posted by: gin_ger_ale Nov 29 2005, 10:13 AM

Iska translation kya hai konkani mein?

Posted by: Nimii Nov 29 2005, 10:58 AM

Vhai Vhai Allehn kandithaa..

Vhai - yes
Allehn - Ginger [in konkani]
kandithaa - definitely

N

Posted by: gkshyam Nov 29 2005, 11:55 AM

Allehn!!! LOL Good One Nimii

Posted by: Nimii Nov 29 2005, 01:49 PM

GOOD ONE?!?!?!?

What is so good about that

N

Posted by: gin_ger_ale Nov 29 2005, 02:06 PM

This is tough. I need the pronounciation too. Otherwise I'll be telling these words in konkani and no one will understand.
I learnt 2 words though. I knew khanditha was definitely

Posted by: Nimii Nov 29 2005, 02:09 PM

it is not Khanditha - it is kalam ka ka not khargosh ka kh

the h is used to give the mild 'ha' sound..
the same goes with the alphabet 'n' - giving a - nasal na

N

Posted by: gin_ger_ale Nov 29 2005, 02:36 PM

Oops spell mistake! It's 'kha' in kannada , so aise hi aagaya. Teacher ji will correct myself. What is teacher in konkani?
I like Allehn. How is that said in konkani?

Posted by: Nimii Nov 30 2005, 12:09 PM

a l(half sound of la) leN (with Na sound given at the end)

Teacher is called Masterni

Posted by: gin_ger_ale Nov 30 2005, 01:25 PM

Masterni sounds great! Nimz ji se will call you 'Masterni' from now on:p Sounds like a khadoos teacher:p
'h' is not pronounced? Will ask my konkani friend about the pronounciation:D Atleast I know the words but I will not be comfy to speak as of now:)

Posted by: Nimii Nov 30 2005, 02:09 PM

Yep it does sound a bit khadoos

N

Posted by: Nimii Dec 30 2005, 03:18 PM

Yeh gingz bhi gayab hogayi.. aur bol rahi hai HF se retirement lene ka baat kar rahi hai

HF pe join hokar ek mahina bhi poora nahi hua

N