Kuch Aur Zamaana Kehta Hain, Chhoti Chhoti Baatein (1965) |
Kuch Aur Zamaana Kehta Hain, Chhoti Chhoti Baatein (1965) |
trijoy |
Mar 22 2005, 04:28 AM
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Can someone please upload this number?
Thanks. Trijoy |
sangeetbhakt |
Jul 13 2005, 02:48 AM
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This post is really a response to a post in the Geeta Dutt forum. Since it
was not relevant to that forum, I am posting my response here. QUOTE(fiftysomeone @ Jul 9 2005, 07:50 PM) QUOTE(unni @ Jul 10 2005, 07:23 AM) Due to the limited output of her songs, IMHO it does not justify a separate sub-forum for Meena Kapoor. While on the subject, here are some video clips (in Real Media) from "ANOKHA PYAR" featuring the voice of Meena Kapoor : A separate sub-forum for Meena Kapoor may be overdoing it. I have read that one of the reasons why Anil Biswas withdrew from the industry is b'cos of the lack of recognition of Meena, his better half, whose voice he felt had everything. I saw Meena Kapoor recently on TV in a programme on Roshan. Which reminds me, that the song "Ae Dil Meri Wafa" is probably sung by Lata & Ira Nagrath (Mrs. Roshan), though in some databases it shows as Ira Nagrath/Meena Kapor. Which is right? In the movie Lata sings for Nalini Jaywant, and there seems to be only one other heroine - Nargis. Could these be version songs? Thx for the video-clips Unni saab. Cheers 50Some1 Don't know if this has been discussed on HF till now. But here is the explanation. In those days, singers used to record songs twice, once for the film and once for the record. The record version was typically because of limitations on the length of the song to fit into a 45 rpm or 78 rpm record. But there could have been other reasons as well. For the film "Anokha pyaar", one of the versions had been recorded (I believe the film versions) in Meena Kapoor's voice. However, when it came time to make the record version, she was ill and unable to do the recording. So Lata came in and recorded those songs. The only case where this was not possible was the Lata/Meena Kapoor duet "Ae dil meri wafa me". So in this case, Ira Nagrath was brought in to sing with Lata. That is the reason why there are 2 versions of all the songs in the film which have Meena Kapoor's voice. The Ira Nagrath version is harder to come by. The EMI CD of "Anokha pyaar" has the 2 versions of all the songs except this one. And to make matters worse, they have mistakenly identified the Lata/Meena Kapoor version as being the Lata/Ira Nagrath version. Sigh!!!! One wishes there was more attention paid to such details. I am appending both versions of this song here. The Lata/Ira Nagrath version is shorter than the Lata/Meena Kapoor version. I am still not sure which version was in the film v/s which was in the record. I am guessing that Meena Kapoor sang in the film. The rest of this post is IMHO. Now as to the singer herself, I believe that "Anokha pyaar" represents her best work to date. She brings an emotion and intensity to the songs that Lata was not able to do in her versions. However, one must also remember that this was a very very young Lata. Over the years, that voice quality and emotion grew, till she did it better than most anybody else. Meena Kapoor's voice was lovely, but never in the league of the Mangeshkar sisters (specifically Lata and Asha). I always wondered why she did not make it big herself, especially with a composer like Anil Biswas as her husband. But after listening to several of her other songs, I realized that her voice is limited in its range and style. One of the things that the greats like Lata, Asha, Rafi, Kishore, Mukesh, etc did was to take even an ordinary (sometimes bad) tune and convert it into something much better. This was a quality that is not present in all singers, even those with lovely voices like Meena Kapoor, Mubarak Begum, etc. And so, if a composer/producer could afford one of the top tier, they continued along that line. After all, if we were all composers, we would want our songs to be rendered by nobody but the best. Even Anil Biswas himself has used Lata a lot more than Meena Kapoor. Well that is my analysis du jour |
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