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Kuch Aur Zamaana Kehta Hain

, Chhoti Chhoti Baatein (1965)

 
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trijoy
post Mar 22 2005, 04:28 AM
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Can someone please upload this number?

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post Jul 13 2005, 02:48 AM
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This post is really a response to a post in the Geeta Dutt forum. Since it
was not relevant to that forum, I am posting my response here.

QUOTE(fiftysomeone @ Jul 9 2005, 07:50 PM)
QUOTE(unni @ Jul 10 2005, 07:23 AM)

Due to the limited output of her songs, IMHO  it does not justify a separate
sub-forum for Meena Kapoor.  While on the subject, here are some video clips
(in Real Media) from "ANOKHA PYAR" featuring the voice of Meena Kapoor


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A separate sub-forum for Meena Kapoor may be overdoing it.
I have read that one of the reasons why Anil Biswas withdrew from the industry
is b'cos of the lack of recognition of Meena, his better half, whose voice he felt
had everything.
I saw Meena Kapoor recently on TV in a programme on Roshan. Which reminds
me, that the song "Ae Dil Meri Wafa" is probably sung by Lata & Ira Nagrath
(Mrs. Roshan), though in some databases it shows as Ira Nagrath/Meena Kapor.
Which is right? In the movie Lata sings for Nalini Jaywant, and there seems to be
only one other heroine - Nargis. Could these be version songs?
Thx for the video-clips Unni saab.
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Don't know if this has been discussed on HF till now. But here is the explanation.
In those days, singers used to record songs twice, once for the film and once for
the record. The record version was typically because of limitations on the length
of the song to fit into a 45 rpm or 78 rpm record. But there could have been
other reasons as well.
For the film "Anokha pyaar", one of the versions had been recorded (I believe
the film versions) in Meena Kapoor's voice. However, when it came time to make
the record version, she was ill and unable to do the recording. So Lata came in
and recorded those songs. The only case where this was not possible was the
Lata/Meena Kapoor duet "Ae dil meri wafa me". So in this case, Ira Nagrath was
brought in to sing with Lata. That is the reason why there are 2 versions of all
the songs in the film which have Meena Kapoor's voice.
The Ira Nagrath version is harder to come by. The EMI CD of "Anokha pyaar"
has the 2 versions of all the songs except this one. And to make matters worse,
they have mistakenly identified the Lata/Meena Kapoor version as being the
Lata/Ira Nagrath version. Sigh!!!! One wishes there was more attention paid to
such details.
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I am appending both versions of this song here. The Lata/Ira Nagrath version is
shorter than the Lata/Meena Kapoor version. I am still not sure which version
was in the film v/s which was in the record. I am guessing that Meena Kapoor
sang in the film.


The rest of this post is IMHO.
Now as to the singer herself, I believe that "Anokha pyaar" represents her best
work to date. She brings an emotion and intensity to the songs that Lata was
not able to do in her versions. However, one must also remember that this was
a very very young Lata. Over the years, that voice quality and emotion grew,
till she did it better than most anybody else. Meena Kapoor's voice was lovely,
but never in the league of the Mangeshkar sisters (specifically Lata and Asha).
I always wondered why she did not make it big herself, especially with a composer
like Anil Biswas as her husband. But after listening to several of her other songs,
I realized that her voice is limited in its range and style. One of the things that
the greats like Lata, Asha, Rafi, Kishore, Mukesh, etc did was to take even an
ordinary (sometimes bad) tune and convert it into something much better. This
was a quality that is not present in all singers, even those with lovely voices like
Meena Kapoor, Mubarak Begum, etc. And so, if a composer/producer could
afford one of the top tier, they continued along that line. After all, if we were all
composers, we would want our songs to be rendered by nobody but the best.
Even Anil Biswas himself has used Lata a lot more than Meena Kapoor.
Well that is my analysis du jour smile1.gif
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trijoy   Kuch Aur Zamaana Kehta Hain   Mar 22 2005, 04:28 AM
sangeetbhakt   RE: Kuch Aur Zamaana Kehta Hain   Mar 22 2005, 05:42 AM
trijoy   Very much appreciated Sangeetbhakt. Trijoy   Mar 22 2005, 07:52 AM
ani218122   There was a video of ANil Biswqs , where Meena Kap...   Jun 25 2005, 07:40 PM
brgarg   [snapback]107746 dear sir, How a video can be ...   Jul 1 2005, 02:53 PM
p1j   Repost of one of my posts on RMIM on this song In...   Jul 13 2005, 12:15 PM
bchatterjee   DEJAVU After listening to this wonderful song, I ...   Jul 16 2005, 08:52 PM
Pulkit   The video was probably from the series 'Gaata ...   Jul 6 2005, 05:42 PM
bchatterjee   Can someone please upload this number once again? ...   Jul 10 2005, 09:25 AM
aahat   RE: Kuch Aur Zamaana Kehta Hain   Jul 10 2005, 12:37 PM
sangeetbhakt   This post is really a response to a post in the Ge...   Jul 13 2005, 02:48 AM
fiftysomeone   Sangeetbhakt saab, You did the right thing by shif...   Jul 13 2005, 08:38 AM
shivani   Hello Everybody. I first heard (rather saw) this ...   Aug 2 2005, 10:30 AM
tehrijack   can someone again upload that song, plz plz   May 30 2006, 02:07 PM
rom   It's available at: http://music.cooltoad.com/m...   May 30 2006, 02:24 PM
nahar   lijiye prastut hai yah madhur gana aap sabake liye...   Feb 2 2007, 06:42 PM
Sameer_Pandya   lijiye prastut hai yah madhur gana aap sabake liy...   Feb 3 2007, 06:09 PM
Sameer_Pandya   lijiye prastut hai yah madhur gana aap sabake li...   Mar 17 2007, 02:46 AM
bawlachintu   Pandya ji, kewal bitrate bata dijiye gaane ka   Apr 6 2007, 03:33 PM


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