Dev Anand Praised Rafi Sahab, For Filim Sharabi's Song Options

[rehman_mh]

Hi Members,

For film Sharabi, singer had to bring Dev Ananad's SHARABI style in the song and the choice was KK. But due to some reason KK could not sing the following song for him. Upon MD SDB's preference, Rafi Sahab has sung the song for him.

Kabhi na kabhi, kahi na kahi, koi na koi to ayegaa. Apna mujhe banega, dilme mujhe basaega. Khabi na khabi, kahi na kahi, koi na koi to aaegaa.[/

After listening the song, Dev Anand got excited and said [I]" Yei gana Rafi Sahab ke laaoa or koi ga i nehi sakta. Aabi tak to mey Rafi Sahab ka fan ta, lekin aab se mey unka gane ka pujaari ban geye hoo"

Rehman

[Pradeep]

I wonder why would the MD, Madan Mohan, have KK sing for this alone when kk could have justified equally for the fun songs in the movie. Unfortunately, there are no songs of KK in this movie. All of them are sung by Rafi. Where did you get this info Rehman?

[rehman_mh]

Pradeep,

I got this info from an internet radio program from US on Rafi Sahab's special episode. Yes, you are right MD is MADAN MOHAN for Sharabi. Madan Mohan alwasy preferred Rafi Sahab for his tune coz he knew RAFI's ability to justice with the song then any one else.

You know? in another net article, I have read that Producer of the film " LAILY MAJNU" wanted KK to sing all song for young Rishi Kapoor. But Madan Mohan has threaten to Producer that if RAFI SHAHAB does not sing the songs of that film, he will give up the film and when film released, film hit the box office b'coz of the Rafi Sahab's song for Rishi Kapoor. And also since Rafi Sahab has sung maximum song of RK until his early demise in 1980.

[Pradeep]

Yes, I am aware about the Laila Majnu quisa. There are two MDs for that movie, Madan Mohan & Jaidev. Lyrics for this movie is provided by Sahir.

[Sharad]

You guys wanna know a secret of Sharabi film - dev anand
I don't know if it means anything BUT
as I was watching the film........the calender year in the film showed 56-57
this was the year dev anand showed it to us as he was flipping thru the calender in the movie you know..........
but the everywhere it says film is released in 1964?
I N T E R E S T I N G
isn't it!!

any reason why?

Sharad

[tavaishnav]

[subvid2003]

It is obviously very diffcult to believe that the Evergreen Dev Anand has praised Rafi Saheb's singing. Sharabi was released in 1966 when Rafi Saheb was still the main playback for Dev Anand for all but S.D.Burman (S.D had started re-including Kishore for Dev in 1965 with Guide & Teen Deviyan). So there was no way that Madan Mohan , whose perenial favorite was Rafi, would have considered using Kishore for Sharabi. Morover, if you have listened to all the songs in Sharabi, they have obviously been composed using Rafi Saheb in mind. No singer could have even tried those songs, let along sing.. esp the slower version of 'Sawan ke Mahine Mein". And the fact that in 1966, only SD considered Kishore to be a sort of a reasonable playback doesn't help matters.

As far as Dev's sick outbursts of branding Mohd Rafi as his "Ghazal" voice, one should probably present him with a Golden Collection CD of his own hits for him to figure out Rafi Saheb's positioning in his repertoire of hits. Or maybe the best way out is resigning to the fact that old age had caught up with him two decades earlier - what with his struggles to keep his D-grade movies afloat for a week during that period.

Ganesh

[irfan]

[unni]

Sharad:

After reading Irfan's post I glanced through this section and came across your earlier message about "Sharabi" --- about the calendar year in the movie showing 1956-57 but year of movie release being 1964.

As I recollect, the movie had been long in the making and its completion and release had been delayed. At least part of the reason was attributed to Madhubala's health.

I distinctly remember that it was in 1964 (or latest 1965) that the movie came out. The release of the song "Kabhi na kabhi" on radio had made me interested in the film, but I never got to see it since it was not shown in Madras. Apparently the film flopped --- in reply to one of my posts, forum members have reported that it was "crap"!

Cheers --- Unni

[Sharad]

OKay Thanks Unni ji

It's crappy movie, songs are the main reason I even got this movie
Just wanted to see the picturization, and wanted to extract the sad part of
Sawan ke Mahine mein - it's been more than 6 months and I still haven't done it
I'll do it TODAY!

Sawan ke mahine mein
ek aag si seene mein
lagti hai to pii leta hoon
do chaar ghadhi jee leta hoooooooooooon

Sharad

[suhana_safar]

I was rummaging through old pages and came upon the discussion regarding Dev-Anand and Rafisaab.I had read it in an interview by Dev-anand (FilmFare).Dev said that his most favorite playback singer was Kishore Kumar and Kishore Kumar used to change his voice to suit it to DevAnand and later on Dev Anand gave an example of KK's song and also went on to say that it is his best song 'DIL KA BHANWAR KARE PUKAR',

Should I Laugh or Cry.


Irfan I feel like crying as Rafisaab wasted his great voice for a pariah like Dev Ananad. DA is ahsan faramosh. He had no acting skills and its only beacuse of lovely songs sang by Rafisaab that he could compete with greats like Raj Kapor and Dilip Kumar.

He purposely sidelined Rafi as DA thought that having KK's voice would help him to give an image of a young hero (God knows why the actors even thought about such crap). The truth is DA has given several flops from 1970 onwards and I need to say that he would have asked Udit Narayan or someone else to sing for him if KK was alive today.

This sanile man just can't age gracefully and continues to make absolute shitty films that drains our common sense.

[myawan]

[UKM]

When I was a teenager, Dev Anand was my favourite actor. Sure, he had exquisite and memorable Kishore-da melodies picturised on him. But even in my teenage years, "Dookhi mun merery" and "Hum hai raahi pyar ke" and "Jeevan ke safar mein raahi" were already songs of the past. I had not even seen those movies then. The Dev Anand of my teenage years was epitomized by "Khoya khoya chaand" and "Jab pyaar kisisey hotha hai". I cannot give the technical definition of a ghazal, but those songs were before "Kahin beykhayaal hokar" which I guess qualifies as a ghazal. And to think that SDB considered the songs of "Guide" as his best compositions. I wonder if either "Terey merey sapnay" and "Din dhul jaaye" fall in the category of ghazal.

Even now, my 98-year old father (God bless him) makes more sense the "evergreen" Dev-sahab.

[Sharad]

A Quiz Question

What was the 1st song Mohammed Rafi sang for Dev Anand ?
what movie ?



Sharad

[irfan]

One thing I forgot to mention in my last post was that when Devanand was describing KK's singing of 'Dil ka bhanwar kare pukar' he specially praised the humming after 'pyar ka raag suno re '.

A request to anyone who gets a chance to meet DA.PLease repeat the question and if he gives the same answer give him a piece of mind and knowledge too.