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Posted by: parag_sankla Dec 18 2008, 10:58 AM

Just now seeing Mahesh's post that Road No. 303 is composer C. Arjun's debut film, here is a thread dedicated to the composer's for whom Geeta ji sang in their debut albums.

1) O P Nayyar - Aasmaan (1952) - 4 songs of Geeta ji
2) C. Arjun - Road No. 303 (1963) - Sun lo meherbaan
3) N Dutta - Milap (1955) - 5 songs

Requesting listings of more such instances from the knowledgable members.

Thanks Mahesh for the concept

Best Regards
Parag

Posted by: smahesh Dec 18 2008, 02:57 PM

parag,
here are some more which i can remember right now
1]-hemant kumar-anand math[1952],

2]-surid kar-kaanch ki gudia[1961],

3]-robin banerji-insaf kahan hai[1957],

4]-r d burman-raaz[incomplete],

5]-aziz khan-flying prince[1946]-not sure about this but aziz khan started composing music in 1946,

6]-khayyam [ + rehman verma]-heer ranjha[1948],

7]-iqbal qureshi-panchayat[1958],

8]-s madan-batwara[1961]

regards,
mahesh

Posted by: Erum Hashmi Dec 18 2008, 03:29 PM

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2) C. Arjun - Road No. 303 (1963) 1960 - Sun lo meherbaan


One more song in the same film: MERAA DIL GAYAA TO KAHAAN GAYAA

Posted by: smahesh Dec 18 2008, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(parag_sankla @ Dec 18 2008, 10:58 AM) *
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2) C. Arjun - Road No. 303 (1963) 1960 - Sun lo meherbaan


One more song in the same film: MERAA DIL GAYAA TO KAHAAN GAYAA


erumji,
do you have this song?

regards,
mahesh

Posted by: Erum Hashmi Dec 18 2008, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(Erum Hashmi @ Dec 18 2008, 03:29 PM) *

QUOTE(parag_sankla @ Dec 18 2008, 10:58 AM) *
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2) C. Arjun - Road No. 303 (1963) 1960 - Sun lo meherbaan


One more song in the same film: MERAA DIL GAYAA TO KAHAAN GAYAA


erumji,
do you have this song?

regards,
mahesh

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Posted by: parag_sankla Dec 18 2008, 08:13 PM

Thanks Mahesh and Erum ji, so here is the revised list :

1) O P Nayyar - Aasmaan (1952) - 4 songs of Geeta ji
2) C. Arjun - Road No. 303 (1960) - Sun lo meherbaan
3) N Dutta - Milap (1955) - 5 songs
4) Hemant kumar- Anand math (1952)
5) Suhrid kar- Kaanch ki gudia (1961)
6) Robin banerji- Insaf kahan hai(1957)
7) R D Burman - Raaz (Shelved)
8) Aziz khan - Flying prince (1946) - not sure about this but Aziz khan started composing music in 1946
9) Khayyam [ + Rehman verma] - Heer ranjha (1948)
10) Iqbal qureshi - Panchayat (1958)
11) S madan - Batwara (1961)
12) Mukul roy- Bhed (1950)
13) Kanu roy - Uski kahani (1966)
14) Shankar dasgupta - Sheeshe ki deewar (1954)
15) Jagmohan - Sardar (1955)

Posted by: smahesh Dec 18 2008, 09:22 PM

some more-

mukul roy-bhed[1950],
kanu roy-uski kahani[1966],
shankar dasgupta-sheeshe ki deewar[1954],
jagmohan-sardar[1955]




regards,
mahesh

Posted by: parag_sankla Dec 18 2008, 11:37 PM

Thanks Mahesh. Do you have Geeta ji's song (s) from Sheeshe ki deewar (1954) ? This is a news to me that S D Gupta composed music for films and Geeta ji sang for him too..

Thanks
Parag

Posted by: parag_sankla Jan 9 2009, 04:34 AM

Any one knows who was supposed the compose the music for the film "Gauri" started by Guru Dutt to launch Geeta ji as the singing star?

Thanks
Parag


Posted by: hildebrand Jan 12 2009, 05:11 AM

Nice thread idea Parag.

Would like to add this movie to the list.

Vinod - Ek Thi Ladki(1949)

There may be others as well. What was MD Jimmy, Madan Mohan, Chitragupt and Avinash Vyas's first movies? They had used Geeta ji's talents extensively as a lead singer. Did she sing in those first movies?

Posted by: smahesh Jan 12 2009, 09:11 PM

QUOTE(hildebrand @ Jan 12 2009, 05:11 AM) *

Nice thread idea Parag.

Would like to add this movie to the list.

Vinod - Ek Thi Ladki(1949)

There may be others as well. What was MD Jimmy, Madan Mohan, Chitragupt and Avinash Vyas's first movies? They had used Geeta ji's talents extensively as a lead singer. Did she sing in those first movies?


hildebrand,
vinod made his debut in 1945 in khamosh nigaahein.ek thi ladki was not his first film.
here is link to his filmography on dml-
http://www.downmelodylane.com/vinod.html

regards,
mahesh

Posted by: parag_sankla Jan 13 2009, 01:01 AM

QUOTE(hildebrand @ Jan 11 2009, 03:41 PM) *

Nice thread idea Parag.

There may be others as well. What was MD Jimmy, Madan Mohan, Chitragupt and Avinash Vyas's first movies? They had used Geeta ji's talents extensively as a lead singer. Did she sing in those first movies?


Thanks HB, I am glad you liked the concept.

Aankhen was Madan Mohan's first film as composer. Meena Kapoor sang the famous song "Mori atariya pe kaaga bole" for him in this film (I read somewhere that Lata ji refused to sing for a newcomer composer!). I am not sure if Geeta ji sang any song for this film of Madan Mohan.

Cheers
Parag




Posted by: hildebrand Jan 13 2009, 01:45 AM

QUOTE(smahesh @ Jan 12 2009, 09:11 PM) *

QUOTE(hildebrand @ Jan 12 2009, 05:11 AM) *

Nice thread idea Parag.

Would like to add this movie to the list.

Vinod - Ek Thi Ladki(1949)

There may be others as well. What was MD Jimmy, Madan Mohan, Chitragupt and Avinash Vyas's first movies? They had used Geeta ji's talents extensively as a lead singer. Did she sing in those first movies?


hildebrand,
vinod made his debut in 1945 in khamosh nigaahein.ek thi ladki was not his first film.
here is link to his filmography on dml-
http://www.downmelodylane.com/vinod.html

regards,
mahesh


Thanks mahesh ji for this info which is new to me and the link. I was falsely under the impression that this was his first movie.

Posted by: hildebrand Jan 13 2009, 01:51 AM

QUOTE(parag_sankla @ Jan 13 2009, 01:01 AM) *

QUOTE(hildebrand @ Jan 11 2009, 03:41 PM) *

Nice thread idea Parag.

There may be others as well. What was MD Jimmy, Madan Mohan, Chitragupt and Avinash Vyas's first movies? They had used Geeta ji's talents extensively as a lead singer. Did she sing in those first movies?


Thanks HB, I am glad you liked the concept.

Aankhen was Madan Mohan's first film as composer. Meena Kapoor sang the famous song "Mori atariya pe kaaga bole" for him in this film (I read somewhere that Lata ji refused to sing for a newcomer composer!). I am not sure if Geeta ji sang any song for this film of Madan Mohan.

Cheers
Parag


If Aankhen was his first movie, then Geeta ji doesn't have any song in that movie. Other than that Meena Kapoor song, Shamshad Begum had five songs. There was no other female singer. Rafi, Mukesh, Raj Khosla and Madan mohan himself were the male singers for the movie. I love a shamshad-mukesh duet from the movie, "Humse Nain Milaana B.A. pass kar ke"!


Posted by: hildebrand Jan 17 2009, 06:08 AM

Which were MD Jimmy, Chitragupt and Avinash Vyas's first movies?

Also, was Rangeeli(1952), the first movie of MD Chic Chocolate? (former assistant of C. Ramachandra). If so,
this movie had two songs by Geeta ji:-
1. Humne Yeh Dil Lagaane Ki
2. Raat Bhi Rangeen hai Mausam Bhi Rangeen hai

I am looking for this second song. if someone has it do please upload it.

Posted by: parag_sankla Jan 17 2009, 06:16 AM

Here is the information from net (subject to correction)

Chitragupt

Reported to have composed music for 3 films in 1946 before composing a song for Geeta ji in 1947.

http://downmelodylane.com/chitragupt.html

Avinash Vyas

Reported to have composed for a film way back in 1944. First song for Geeta ji not before 1949. He could have composed music for more films betwen 1944 and 1948.

http://downmelodylane.com/composers_a.html#avinash

Jimmy

No idea.



I will check if I have the song "Raat Bhi Rangeen hai Mausam Bhi Rangeen hai".

Cheers
Parag


Posted by: smahesh Feb 10 2009, 03:25 PM

adding two more names-

1-narayan dutt-mordhwaj[1952],
2-pardesi-banjaran[1960]

regards,
mahesh

Posted by: hildebrand Feb 10 2009, 09:35 PM

Wow Mahesh ji. Glad to see two more additions.
This shows the great approachability of Geeta ji to new composers. She's probably second to only Shamshad Begum in this regard for supporting new composers to come up!

Posted by: parag_sankla Apr 4 2009, 12:56 AM

QUOTE(hildebrand @ Jan 16 2009, 05:38 PM) *

Which were MD Jimmy, Chitragupt and Avinash Vyas's first movies?

Also, was Rangeeli(1952), the first movie of MD Chic Chocolate? (former assistant of C. Ramachandra). If so,
this movie had two songs by Geeta ji:-
1. Humne Yeh Dil Lagaane Ki
2. Raat Bhi Rangeen hai Mausam Bhi Rangeen hai

I am looking for this second song. if someone has it do please upload it.


Unfortunately I do not have this song with me HB.


Posted by: hildebrand Apr 4 2009, 02:48 AM

Hope someone can upload it for us.
I found the filmography of Chik Chocolate (actual name A.X. Vaz) http://www.downmelodylane.com/composers_b.html#chic. It seems this was his second movie. First was Nadaan(1951).

The other song of Rangeeli is also quite nice and surprisingly less talked one of Geeta ji.

Posted by: hildebrand Apr 4 2009, 02:53 AM

Adding an 18th name which I don't know how we managed to forget!

Updated list is as follows:-

1) O P Nayyar - Aasmaan (1952) - 4 songs of Geeta ji
2) C. Arjun - Road No. 303 (1960) - Sun lo meherbaan
3) N Dutta - Milap (1955) - 5 songs
4) HemantKumar- Anand math (1952)
5) Suhrid Kar- Kaanch ki gudia (1961)
6) Robin Bannerji- Insaf kahan hai(1957)
7) R D Burman - Raaz (Shelved)
8) Aziz Khan - Flying prince (1946) - not sure about this but Aziz khan started composing music in 1946
9) Khayyam [ + Rehman verma] - Heer ranjha (1948)
10) Iqbal Qureshi - Panchayat (1958)
11) S Madan - Batwara (1961)
12) Mukul Roy- Bhed (1950)
13) Kanu Roy - Uski kahani (1966)
14) Shankar Dasgupta - Sheeshe ki deewar (1954)
15) Jagmohan - Sardar (1955)
16) Narayan Dutt - Mordhwaj[1952],
17) Pardesi- Banjaran[1960]
18) Snehal Bhatkar - Suhaag Raat[1948]

Also have one more doubt. Isn't Mr. India(1961) which had two Geeta songs the debut movie of MD G.S. Kohli?

Posted by: parag_sankla Apr 15 2009, 11:08 AM

Great efforts in putting the list together HB. I am not sure if Mr India (1961) is the debut movie of G S Kohli as composer.

Regards
Parag

Posted by: Aditya Pant Apr 15 2009, 11:46 AM

QUOTE(parag_sankla @ Apr 15 2009, 11:08 AM) *

Great efforts in putting the list together HB. I am not sure if Mr India (1961) is the debut movie of G S Kohli as composer.

Regards
Parag


G S Kohli's debut was Lambe Haath (1960). It did not have any Geeta Dutt songs.

Aditya

Posted by: hildebrand Apr 15 2009, 06:44 PM

Thanks Parag and Aditya. I realised later that Lambe haath is the debut with no Geeta songs. I had forgotten to update it here.
Any ideas on MD Jimmy?

Posted by: Aditya Pant Apr 15 2009, 06:51 PM

QUOTE(hildebrand @ Apr 15 2009, 06:44 PM) *

Thanks Parag and Aditya. I realised later that Lambe haath is the debut with no Geeta songs. I had forgotten to update it here.
Any ideas on MD Jimmy?


I am not aware of any film before Shrimatiji that had music by Jimmy, so that could be his debut. But I'm not sure....there is virtually no information available on Jimmy. Maybe someone with HFGK can confirm.

Aditya

Posted by: smahesh Apr 15 2009, 08:08 PM

QUOTE(Aditya Pant @ Apr 15 2009, 06:51 PM) *

QUOTE(hildebrand @ Apr 15 2009, 06:44 PM) *

Thanks Parag and Aditya. I realised later that Lambe haath is the debut with no Geeta songs. I had forgotten to update it here.
Any ideas on MD Jimmy?


I am not aware of any film before Shrimatiji that had music by Jimmy, so that could be his debut. But I'm not sure....there is virtually no information available on Jimmy. Maybe someone with HFGK can confirm.

Aditya

jimmy/james singh gave music for muqaddar[1950] which was most probably his first film.it had songs by asha and kishore.


regards,
mahesh

Posted by: Aditya Pant Apr 15 2009, 08:40 PM

QUOTE(smahesh @ Apr 15 2009, 08:08 PM) *


jimmy/james singh gave music for muqaddar[1950] which was most probably his first film.it had songs by asha and kishore.


regards,
mahesh

Mahesh ji,
I have a Kishore-Asha duet from Muqaddar, which I have tagged as Khemchand Prakash. I remember reading somewhere that Kishore Kumar sang his first duets with both the sisters under Khemchand Prakash (Ziddi and Muqaddar). Did Jimmy compose just a few songs in the film? Or did he complete the score after Khemchand Prakash's death or during his ill-health?

Aditya

Posted by: hildebrand Oct 25 2009, 10:26 AM

QUOTE(Aditya Pant @ Apr 15 2009, 08:40 PM) *

QUOTE(smahesh @ Apr 15 2009, 08:08 PM) *


jimmy/james singh gave music for muqaddar[1950] which was most probably his first film.it had songs by asha and kishore.


regards,
mahesh

Mahesh ji,
I have a Kishore-Asha duet from Muqaddar, which I have tagged as Khemchand Prakash. I remember reading somewhere that Kishore Kumar sang his first duets with both the sisters under Khemchand Prakash (Ziddi and Muqaddar). Did Jimmy compose just a few songs in the film? Or did he complete the score after Khemchand Prakash's death or during his ill-health?

Aditya


The movie is probably originally having Khemchand Prakash as MD. Due to his health Bhola Shreshtha completed the score for his five songs (three by Nalini Jaywant, one shamshad solo and one Asha-Kishore duet). In addition three songs have been composed by James Singh (two are asha-kk duets and third is asha-arun kumar duet). Geet Kosh is silent on MD of one of the songs (an asha-kishore-arun Kumar trio).

Posted by: Aditya Pant Oct 25 2009, 10:44 AM

QUOTE(hildebrand @ Oct 25 2009, 10:26 AM) *

QUOTE(Aditya Pant @ Apr 15 2009, 08:40 PM) *

QUOTE(smahesh @ Apr 15 2009, 08:08 PM) *


jimmy/james singh gave music for muqaddar[1950] which was most probably his first film.it had songs by asha and kishore.


regards,
mahesh

Mahesh ji,
I have a Kishore-Asha duet from Muqaddar, which I have tagged as Khemchand Prakash. I remember reading somewhere that Kishore Kumar sang his first duets with both the sisters under Khemchand Prakash (Ziddi and Muqaddar). Did Jimmy compose just a few songs in the film? Or did he complete the score after Khemchand Prakash's death or during his ill-health?

Aditya


The movie is probably originally having Khemchand Prakash as MD. Due to his health Bhola Shreshtha completed the score for his five songs (three by Nalini Jaywant, one shamshad solo and one Asha-Kishore duet). In addition three songs have been composed by James Singh (two are asha-kk duets and third is asha-arun kumar duet). Geet Kosh is silent on MD of one of the songs (an asha-kishore-arun Kumar trio).


HB, thanks for the confirmation. Is it possible for you to list down the songs for each MD, so that I can correct the tagging of a few songs I have?

Thanks
Aditya

Posted by: hildebrand Oct 25 2009, 11:12 AM

Will post details later in the day.
Plz mail me whatever songs you have. The ones I have are not of good audio quality.

Posted by: hildebrand Oct 25 2009, 05:54 PM

QUOTE(Aditya Pant @ Oct 25 2009, 10:44 AM) *

QUOTE(hildebrand @ Oct 25 2009, 10:26 AM) *

QUOTE(Aditya Pant @ Apr 15 2009, 08:40 PM) *

QUOTE(smahesh @ Apr 15 2009, 08:08 PM) *


jimmy/james singh gave music for muqaddar[1950] which was most probably his first film.it had songs by asha and kishore.


regards,
mahesh

Mahesh ji,
I have a Kishore-Asha duet from Muqaddar, which I have tagged as Khemchand Prakash. I remember reading somewhere that Kishore Kumar sang his first duets with both the sisters under Khemchand Prakash (Ziddi and Muqaddar). Did Jimmy compose just a few songs in the film? Or did he complete the score after Khemchand Prakash's death or during his ill-health?

Aditya


The movie is probably originally having Khemchand Prakash as MD. Due to his health Bhola Shreshtha completed the score for his five songs (three by Nalini Jaywant, one shamshad solo and one Asha-Kishore duet). In addition three songs have been composed by James Singh (two are asha-kk duets and third is asha-arun kumar duet). Geet Kosh is silent on MD of one of the songs (an asha-kishore-arun Kumar trio).


HB, thanks for the confirmation. Is it possible for you to list down the songs for each MD, so that I can correct the tagging of a few songs I have?

Thanks
Aditya

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