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gkshyam
post Sep 7 2005, 06:52 PM
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Ee baat ki jaankari tohre se milkar bhi ihaan par kauno sasure naahin aavat hain!!!! doh.gif sad1.gif
Ab kaa kiya jaaye aap khud hi bataayi do.... mellow.gif

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post Sep 17 2005, 02:30 AM
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Lo.......ab phir se dhagwaa khadde-waali nayye ki tarha doob gayi kaa??? unsure.gif doh.gif

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post Sep 24 2005, 02:17 AM
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Gayi Bhainswaa paani mein......... doh.gif doh.gif sad1.gif

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post Sep 29 2005, 11:43 PM
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Oh Paalanhaare... sad1.gif
Nirgun Aur Nyaare......
Tumhre Bin Humraa.......
Kauno Naahi.... cry.gif

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post Sep 30 2005, 12:25 AM
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QUOTE(gkshyam @ Sep 29 2005, 11:43 PM) *
Oh Paalanhaare... sad1.gif
Nirgun Aur Nyaare......
Tumhre Bin Humraa.......
Kauno Naahi.... cry.gif


GKS u r cho cvheet.......... kiss.gif

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post Sep 30 2005, 06:28 AM
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Arre ee kaa! doh.gif Ihaan to bhajan-kiirtan suru hui gava re ! :bhajan:
To bolo
Siyaavar Raamchandra Ki....... camera.gif
Pavan-sut Hanumaan Ki...... camera.gif
aisan hi Ihaan ghoomat ghoomat ek sanka man mein utpann hui ...... Ee bhojpuri, bihaari aur avadhi mein ka farak hai bhala .... kauno humein samjhaane ki kirpaa karenge... ? unsure.gif ee bhulakkad aaj-kal sab hi kuchh bhoolne laga hai doh.gif

--- Humre khayaal se Ganga Jamuna-ma jo bhaasa Dilip Kumar bolat rahe oo to avadhi hai na ??
--- Aur ee jo Tulsidas-ji ki Hanumaan Chaalisa hai --- ee kauno bhaasa mein likhi gayi hai ? blink.gif
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post Oct 1 2005, 09:15 PM
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QUOTE(visuja @ Sep 30 2005, 06:28 AM) *
Arre ee kaa! doh.gif Ihaan to bhajan-kiirtan suru hui gava re ! :bhajan:
To bolo
Siyaavar Raamchandra Ki....... camera.gif
Pavan-sut Hanumaan Ki...... camera.gif
aisan hi Ihaan ghoomat ghoomat ek sanka man mein utpann hui ...... Ee bhojpuri, bihaari aur avadhi mein ka farak hai bhala .... kauno humein samjhaane ki kirpaa karenge... ? unsure.gif ee bhulakkad aaj-kal sab hi kuchh bhoolne laga hai doh.gif

--- Humre khayaal se Ganga Jamuna-ma jo bhaasa Dilip Kumar bolat rahe oo to avadhi hai na ??
--- Aur ee jo Tulsidas-ji ki Hanumaan Chaalisa hai --- ee kauno bhaasa mein likhi gayi hai ? blink.gif


sabki JAI ho.....smile1.gif
hmm.. theek se to nahi pata.. lekin bhojpuri eastern UP me boli jati hai.... Bihari is magadhi....mind u bihari and bhojpuri are diffeerent languages.. i am fluent in bhojpuri but dont understand magadhi or bihari...avadhi i guess is spoken in allahabad and banaras... not sure abt this.. will ask my dad and will tell....smile1.gif

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post Oct 1 2005, 11:40 PM
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Vivek, Tulsidas wrote all his work in awadhi. Surdas and Raskhan used Braj bhasha.Vidyapati used maithili.

there is a confusion about the origin of the Bhojpuri language, according to some folk tales bhojpuri was the language spoken during the rule of Raja Bhoj who ruled in the Bhojpur region of bihar but other tales says that Raja Bhoj was the ruler of Bhuj region in Rajasthan.

Bhojpuri is a language which was derived from the Prakrit. Contrary to the belief, its not the language of Patna, Bhojpuri is spoken in the western and some of the northern part of Bihar and the eastern part of Uttar Pradesh, which includes Buxar (remember the battle of buxar fought here), Banaras, allahabad, even in Mauritius, bhojpuri is one of the main languages. smile1.gif

You maybe shocked to know that Bhojpuri has many words in common with Marathi. you can even find some words that are common to English in meaning as well as pronunciation for eg. Near and here. as we move towards the east the language changes, gets influenced by the other languages. like in Banaras we found very rude form of Bhojpuri while in Allahabad it is mixed with Awadhi. What Ab speaks is a mixture of Bhojpuri and Awadhi smile1.gif Bhojpuri is often confused with many other languages like Magadhi, Awadhi, Maithali and most of all Bhagalpuri

Patna was known as Magadh, the language that was spoken there was known as Magadhi now Magahi, this one is a bit rude sounding...

Awadhi was spoken in Lucknow, ayodhya, Faizabaad and the middle UP. Vivz's post is in Awadhi though with lots of mistakes tongue.gif

Maithili is another language thats spoken in the northern region of Bihar and is the sweetest of any other language i have heard smile1.gif

Bhagalpuri is yet another language that is confused with bhojpuri that is supposed to be very very rude it just feels like someone clubbed you tongue.gif Lathmaar thats the tearm used... its spoken in the southern part of Bihar. wht you hear in movies generally are the mixture of all these languages.

And Bihari language encompasses all these languages just like one who doesnt know about the different languages spoken in south calls them madrasi language tongue.gif

now does it solve the confusion or do you need exaples too??? smile1.gif i can tell you how a sentence can be spoken in all these languages... oh i know this one is a long post to read but you asked for it didnt you tongue.gif


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post Oct 1 2005, 11:49 PM
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Divyanjali: GKS u r cho cvheet.......... kiss.gif


Wow......Divyanjali.....Thanks!!!!! You made my day!!!!! smile1.gif jump.gif smile1.gif

Preety.......That was really some awesome information.......Sure.....would be great to note the differences in each of the examples!!!! thumbs-up.gif smile1.gif

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post Oct 2 2005, 12:08 AM
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Shyam will post them tomorrow have to go to sleep sad1.gif papa daant rahe hain tongue.gif

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post Oct 2 2005, 01:03 AM
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No Probs re......you go and sleep......Kal aakar likh lena wink2.gif

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post Oct 2 2005, 10:17 AM
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wow preeety brilliant peice of information... i wasnt knowing the differences till this depth.. thanks bow.gif
waiting for ur example.... smile1.gif

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post Oct 2 2005, 11:21 AM
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ok lets take the sentence "tum kahaa jaa rahe ho."

in Bhojpuri- Tu kene jaa tara or tu kene jaat baata or tu kene jaat haua depending on the region the words changes.

Maghdi- tu kahaa jaat ha

Maithili- aahan ke kene jayiche

Bhagalpuri- Ton kenaa jayi chon

Awadhi- tum kahaa jayit hava

Another sentence " jub wo bazaar jaa rahaa tha tub maine use dekha"

Awadhi- uu jub bazaar jayit rahaa tub hum uka dekha rahe

Bhojpuri- jub u bazaar jaat rahe tube hum okra ke dekle rahin

maithili- uu jub haat gaylochiai tubbe hum oke dekhalchi

Bhagalpuri- uu jub baazar jaate chon tubbe hum ooke dekhli chon

im not that good in the language department so there might be a bit of mistake but i guess i got most of it right smile1.gif


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post Oct 2 2005, 12:35 PM
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Wow.. Thanks Preety ! bow.gif great info and nice examples clap1.gif

I guess awadhi is whats most frequently been 'adapted' as a 'dehati' language in most hindi films, and so probably an outsider (as in me) equates all those languages to awadhi doh.gif
(jaise sab south indian languages 'ek-se' lagte hain wink2.gif)
What was the dialect heard in Ajay Devgan's 'Gangajal' ?

Was really nice to know the linguistic / cultural variety that exists across UP and Bihar, true to their ancient rich heritage bow.gif

Was a surprise to know bhojpuri has its roots in Prakrit.... Did u know that Prakrit evolved as the "common man's" language ----- prajAnAm kritah iti prakritah, while Sanskrit was known more as language of the "saints" ---- santAnAm kritah iti sanskritah.
Would be interested to know if Prakrit still survives in UP / Bihar at least in literary works ? Any info on how similar were the scripts, etc ? Any differences in the scripts of all the languages you mentioned ? Or all basically in Devnagiri ?
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post Oct 2 2005, 12:40 PM
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My GOD!!!!!! bow.gif bow.gif That was amazing!!!!! Preety you are really too good re.... bow.gif thumbs-up.gif Well........really interesting to note such strong differences in the languages.....inspite of being from somewhat close by regions..........

Maithili sounds close to some other language.....maybe bengali??? unsure.gif or some other......not sure...but it sounds that way.... unsure.gif

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