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Is Slumdog Millionaire A Case Of Poverty Porn?

 
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parag_sankla
post Feb 21 2009, 05:57 AM
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I have not seen the film yet, but have read many reviews. My conclusion based on them is that the western world (British director - the same people who ruled us for over 150 years) has made an excellent piece of poverty porn out of India. The projection of Mumbai and India as a whole is slum (as if there are no homeless people in the developed countries). Using the word dog (even if some one defends that its a newly coined word = slum + underdog = slumdog) is derogatory.

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post Feb 28 2009, 12:30 AM
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People might not support SDM as poverty porn but all over the net people are posting similar comments


Everyone has right of opinion but saying movies that only show flashy buildings and hip culture of India, should be made, that is not right. Problem is if someone made movie which had all that, all these Ram sena guys will burn theater down. "too much of western culture"….. "not an Indian thingy" ... "Pubs are not in india culture"…."valentine day should never be celebrated",...so what is real Indian thingy? aab bechara Danny kare tau kayak are.. idher koovan .. udher khai.....


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People might not support SDM as poverty porn but all over the net people are posting similar comments


Everyone has right of opinion but saying movies that only show flashy buildings and hip culture of India, should be made, that is not right. Problem is if someone made movie which had all that, all these Ram sena guys will burn theater down. "too much of western culture"….. "not an Indian thingy" ... "Pubs are not in india culture"…."valentine day should never be celebrated",...so what is real Indian thingy? aab bechara Danny kare tau kayak are.. idher koovan .. udher khai.....


I agree with Marc...there are quite a few slides are happening here that make me uncomfortable. A few questions and thoughts:

Even if we assume that the film is about poverty, which, in my opinion, it is not, what are we arguing about?

1. Are we saying that the movie is only about poverty so we should protest/feel uncomfortable if foreigners make movies about India's poverty?

2. Are we saying it is all right if Indians make movies about India's poverty, but not right if foreigners make movies about India's poverty because they don't see/show the other side of India, or what India is all about.

3. Are we saying that if you are making a movie about poverty then you should show the other side also to balance the picture? (Indians and Foreigners?)

4. Are we saying that because a film about an Indian boy based in India, won so many oscars, it has a certain responsibility to show all aspects of India?

5. Are we saying that the director made the movie about poverty in India, because poverty sells? Did he anticipate that it would win big time at the oscars and hence just focussed on that?

6. In case we are not blaming the director for making a "one sided" movie, and incase we do take into account issues of artistic freedom, then are we blaming the Oscars for choosing it? Are we protesting that the Oscars went to the film because the selectors were fascinated with this aspect of India? So according to that logic, the oscar selectors are anti-Indian, or they look down or they stereotype Indians and hence chose this film to shower honors on.

Let us at least be clear in our minds about these questions because they represent complex issues that cannot be resolved very easily.

Sonu, I agree with your point that stereotyping happens, and in the case of India, and there has been an argument made about it being seen as the land of mendicants, mysticism and elephants etc. One can argue against this by saying that that image is very dated, modernization and globalization, see India occupying a very different position now in the 21st century than it did in the 20th. and though there are people who still might view India as this but they are a much smaller number and they need to be completely cut off from recent history to hold on to that view.

Secondly, we are talking about a movie about an Indian boy from the slums who makes it big, a movie that has an Indian/British Indian starcast and crew members directed by a Britisher that won 8 oscars. It does give the movie a visibility that other movies do not have. But does it make it a reference for those who do not know anything about India/want to know more about India? Well, my point is that that is not the director's problem. Why should he be held responsible? In my opinion, it is a fantasy, a cinderella tale, and if people choose to see it as a realistic representation of what India is then it is their problem and shorsightedness not the director's. Does the director claim that it is real or true to life? Why should the director compromise his or her artistic vision to tame a movie by being representative of all aspects of a country just because he happens to not belong to that country? Did he know that his movie would win big time at the Oscars?

The Oscars went to the film because the film was enjoyed by a huge foreign audience, there is no doubt about that. But let us give some credit to this "foreign" audience for being ready for "Indian"(read Bollywood) films, as they need a great deal of re-adjustment to enjoy something so different from theirs. I think we too need to re-adjust the way we look at the "western" world.

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parag_sankla   Is Slumdog Millionaire A Case Of Poverty Porn?   Feb 21 2009, 05:57 AM
oye_sonu   Parag ji mujhe nahin malooom poverty porn ka kya ...   Feb 21 2009, 02:01 PM
Ashraf   Hi paragji hope you r fine.How is GeetaDutt.com go...   Feb 21 2009, 05:14 PM
Marcilo   I do not think that is the case, just my personal...   Feb 26 2009, 01:08 AM
Marcilo   Oh I forgot our very own Dharam paaji, honorary me...   Feb 26 2009, 01:11 AM
Marcilo   Sure why not, Film fare mai hi award lo na fir......   Feb 26 2009, 01:24 AM
oye_sonu   Sure why not, Film fare mai hi award lo na fir.....   Feb 26 2009, 11:03 AM
parag_sankla   Marcilo bhai Ok, let us forget the word "und...   Feb 26 2009, 01:50 AM
Marcilo   Marcilo bhai Ok, let us forget the word "un...   Feb 26 2009, 01:59 AM
HumTum   Parag bhai let us not see things with a negative v...   Feb 26 2009, 07:29 AM
parag_sankla   I wanted to be away from this topic, but this news...   Feb 26 2009, 09:36 AM
parag_sankla   http://www.expressbuzz.com/edition/story.a...me=...   Feb 26 2009, 11:22 PM
Marcilo   Those are their awards. How many film fares have y...   Feb 26 2009, 11:17 PM
Marcilo   Ok leaving Oscars aside Does this not happen in ...   Feb 26 2009, 11:31 PM
parag_sankla   There is no denial about existence of these issues...   Feb 26 2009, 11:34 PM
Marcilo   There is no denial about existence of these issue...   Feb 27 2009, 12:16 AM
oye_sonu   There is no denial about existence of these issue...   Feb 27 2009, 12:25 AM
Marcilo   Madhur bhandar ke bare mai aaisa mat bolo, he mak...   Feb 27 2009, 12:56 AM
oye_sonu   Madhur bhandar ke bare mai aaisa mat bolo, he ma...   Feb 27 2009, 01:19 AM
Sangeet   Parag Just my 2 cents here Even though i did not ...   Feb 27 2009, 01:23 AM
parag_sankla   Parag Just my 2 cents here Even though i did not...   Feb 27 2009, 11:27 AM
Aditya Pant   Parag Just my 2 cents here Even though i did no...   Feb 27 2009, 11:53 AM
oye_sonu   confusing :wacko: . jab tak koi film na ...   Feb 27 2009, 01:05 PM
Sangeet   confusing :wacko: . jab tak koi film na dekhe...   Feb 27 2009, 07:03 PM
Marcilo   Why not him....? usko bhi bolo…. He too made mov...   Feb 27 2009, 01:35 AM
oye_sonu   Marcilo bhai uper wala reply pado jo maine u...   Feb 27 2009, 01:53 AM
Marcilo   Sab log poverty pe banate hai kaya? Kitni bani ha...   Feb 27 2009, 02:32 AM
oye_sonu   Mariclo bhai isme burai kya hai. Agar main movie...   Feb 27 2009, 10:22 AM
Marcilo   From the article Sonu, you seen Village? Movie by...   Feb 27 2009, 02:46 AM
oye_sonu   Sonu, you seen Village? Movie by shyamalan? So ...   Feb 27 2009, 10:50 AM
HumTum   Yes Sonu bhai, thoda time nikaal ke dekh lijiye.. ...   Feb 27 2009, 01:56 PM
HumTum   I still love this part of our country! :wub:   Feb 27 2009, 01:57 PM
HumTum   A movie I would have recommended for foreign langu...   Feb 27 2009, 02:01 PM
HumTum   Jeans for Oscar!!!!!!...   Feb 27 2009, 07:08 PM
Marcilo   Sonu, This is what you said... I do not agree a...   Feb 27 2009, 08:29 PM
oye_sonu   Sonu, This is what you said... I do not agree ...   Feb 27 2009, 11:14 PM
Marcilo   Where did this come from into our discussion? Pl...   Feb 27 2009, 09:52 PM
oye_sonu   Where did this come from into our discussion? ...   Feb 27 2009, 11:24 PM
oye_sonu   Just a General comment not against or fav. People...   Feb 28 2009, 12:12 AM
Marcilo   Le… statement hi change karti hun tu :lol: :lo...   Feb 28 2009, 12:24 AM
oye_sonu   Bhaji......".not one " add kara tha ki ...   Feb 28 2009, 01:00 AM
Marcilo   Everyone has right of opinion but saying movies ...   Feb 28 2009, 12:30 AM
oye_sonu   Everyone has right of opinion but saying movies...   Feb 28 2009, 01:10 AM
mmuk2004   Everyone has right of opinion but saying movies...   Feb 28 2009, 01:13 AM
parag_sankla   Since I am being questioned on my stand, I would l...   Feb 28 2009, 01:25 AM
mmuk2004   Parag, Check out this much more complex analysis...   Feb 28 2009, 02:11 AM
parag_sankla   After reading this blog (mentioned above) and the ...   Feb 28 2009, 06:43 AM
mmuk2004   Parag, The key is to take everything critics say...   Feb 28 2009, 09:46 AM
oye_sonu   Parag, The key is to take everything critics sa...   Feb 28 2009, 09:52 PM
Marcilo   Who made personal attacks and ridiculous remark...   Feb 28 2009, 11:57 PM


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