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Is Slumdog Millionaire A Case Of Poverty Porn?

 
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parag_sankla
post Feb 21 2009, 05:57 AM
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I have not seen the film yet, but have read many reviews. My conclusion based on them is that the western world (British director - the same people who ruled us for over 150 years) has made an excellent piece of poverty porn out of India. The projection of Mumbai and India as a whole is slum (as if there are no homeless people in the developed countries). Using the word dog (even if some one defends that its a newly coined word = slum + underdog = slumdog) is derogatory.

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Dubara se apni statement ko repeat kar raha hoon.

Le… statement hi change karti hun tu laugh.gif laugh.gif . Few is a very relative term, you got to put baseline, now.. now you have done it with addition of "Not one". lokaan lai 1 million v few honda hai.

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IF the movie" is based on slums it will effect Indian image ,as it is a landmark and very popular movie, future generations, movie libraries, etc all will stock and watch this movie and their image of india will be influenced by this movie. I stick to this stand even now !
No offence to you sonu, please. I have seen both the worlds, you are yet to see ground reality in this part of the world, so trust me it will not.

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what was smile pinki about ? did you check The guru, the love guru or holy smoke or the city of joy etc They rarely go beyond India of poors, cows or spirituality or maharajahs ( specially of Rajasthan !)
Was pinki a movie or documentary? If it was documentary, leave that aside. You seen namesake? Wasn't that about Indians? Agreed living in USA. But movie was all about Indian culture. Remember first shot where they initially lived? That was a poor neighborhood and how they made it big later on. So if there are poor neighborhoods in USA, yes there are and people live there. Frankly, I am yet to see any slum here or yet to see people standing on the side of road to take a leak. So if that doesn't happen how are they going to show that?
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Bhaji I saw the link that you gave me. that was more about Indian _ US colloboration either in movie concpets or finances
That is it laugh.gif , its all about money, SDM was made to make money not to flush money down the toilet. He thought it could sell so he made it.

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Iam yet to search the documentries they make on Buddhism, spirituality or kumbh or pushkar or the Red light areas of calcutta or the dibbawaalas , or how their aid is ustilised.
Watch PBS or think TV, it's really nice channel.
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Even gandhi film had good glimpses of Indian poverty
I have not seen SDM, but based on what I have read, they to showed how india progressed, call centers, BPO and all. But was poverty the Essence of Gandhi? Or essence was how one man brought british empire to knees with his "INDIAN" will? What was the essence? Do not just go by one scene here and there. If you do your argument on SDM will fall flat too.
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with theme on Indian like SDM. produced directed by Englishmen !

Wasn't this adaption of a book? Written by an Indian? Why is that an Indian choose to write about slums? Why he could not write about DLF, or Raheja builders

Ok, here… If you not seen Sicko? Watch it. You will know more about poverty in America and how people suffer. It's not a movie nor is it documentary, it's right in between. not sure what to call it though. unsure.gif unsure.gif

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Few is a very relative term, you got to put baseline, now.. now you have done it with addition of "Not one". lokaan lai 1 million v few honda hai.

Bhaji......".not one " add kara tha ki wahan per maine " kuchh " likha hai na ki ONE. iske liye.

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No offence to you sonu, please. I have seen [color=#CC0000]both the worlds,[/color] you are yet to see ground reality in this part of the world, so trust me it will not.


Yes genuine point.I havent been there you could be right. but stil cant believe till Iam convinced by other facts or people.

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Was pinki a movie or documentary? If it was documentary, leave that aside. You seen namesake? Wasn't that about Indians? Agreed living in USA. But movie was all about Indian culture. Remember first shot where they initially lived? That was a poor neighborhood and how they made it big later on. So if there are poor neighborhoods in USA, yes there are and people live there. Frankly, I am yet to see any slum here or yet to see people standing on the side of road to take a leak. So if that doesn't happen how are they going to show that?


Pinki a documentry on a poor girl. Namesake was by Mira nair. She is NRI thats why I didnt quoted any of the works by her or amritraj or merchant ivory productions or jag mandhura ( including bawandar ) else I would have added salam bombay or Missispi masala( fleeing ugandian indians ),kamsutra, bawander and few other by merchant ivory.

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Bhaji I saw the link that you gave me. that was more about Indian _ US colloboration either in movie concpets or finances
That is it laugh.gif , its all about money, SDM was made to make money not to flush money down the toilet. He thought it could sell so he made it.
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I felt you gave link of hollywood movies in India.



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Iam yet to search the documentries they make on Buddhism, spirituality or kumbh or pushkar or the Red light areas of calcutta or the dibbawaalas , or how their aid is ustilised.
Watch PBS or think TV, it's really nice channel.

Dont know abt these channels. but I mean to say was the there are dozens of documentries made by foreigners on their fav subjects. including the above one.

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But was poverty the Essence of Gandhi? Or essence was how one man brought british empire to knees with his "INDIAN" will? What was the essence? Do not just go by one scene here and there. If you do your argument on SDM will fall flat too.


I gave that example just for info knowing very well that Gandhi is not a poverty based movie. If their movies are solely for money I t hink no one shd care much for the essence of these movies


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with theme on Indian like SDM. produced directed by Englishmen !
Wasn't this adaption of a book? Written by an Indian? Why is that an Indian choose to write about slums? Why he could not write about DLF, or Raheja builders


Indians in India usually write for indian audience unlike in case of SDM where foreigners took up the story to be shown to western countries. In india we take up any topic under earth where as they are selective when it comes to india !

good eg Ardh satya : om puri and samita patil are made to swim with their pigs in dirty waters. thank god no westerner cared to watch that movie tongue1.gif



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parag_sankla   Is Slumdog Millionaire A Case Of Poverty Porn?   Feb 21 2009, 05:57 AM
oye_sonu   Parag ji mujhe nahin malooom poverty porn ka kya ...   Feb 21 2009, 02:01 PM
Ashraf   Hi paragji hope you r fine.How is GeetaDutt.com go...   Feb 21 2009, 05:14 PM
Marcilo   I do not think that is the case, just my personal...   Feb 26 2009, 01:08 AM
Marcilo   Oh I forgot our very own Dharam paaji, honorary me...   Feb 26 2009, 01:11 AM
Marcilo   Sure why not, Film fare mai hi award lo na fir......   Feb 26 2009, 01:24 AM
oye_sonu   Sure why not, Film fare mai hi award lo na fir.....   Feb 26 2009, 11:03 AM
parag_sankla   Marcilo bhai Ok, let us forget the word "und...   Feb 26 2009, 01:50 AM
Marcilo   Marcilo bhai Ok, let us forget the word "un...   Feb 26 2009, 01:59 AM
HumTum   Parag bhai let us not see things with a negative v...   Feb 26 2009, 07:29 AM
parag_sankla   I wanted to be away from this topic, but this news...   Feb 26 2009, 09:36 AM
parag_sankla   http://www.expressbuzz.com/edition/story.a...me=...   Feb 26 2009, 11:22 PM
Marcilo   Those are their awards. How many film fares have y...   Feb 26 2009, 11:17 PM
Marcilo   Ok leaving Oscars aside Does this not happen in ...   Feb 26 2009, 11:31 PM
parag_sankla   There is no denial about existence of these issues...   Feb 26 2009, 11:34 PM
Marcilo   There is no denial about existence of these issue...   Feb 27 2009, 12:16 AM
oye_sonu   There is no denial about existence of these issue...   Feb 27 2009, 12:25 AM
Marcilo   Madhur bhandar ke bare mai aaisa mat bolo, he mak...   Feb 27 2009, 12:56 AM
oye_sonu   Madhur bhandar ke bare mai aaisa mat bolo, he ma...   Feb 27 2009, 01:19 AM
Sangeet   Parag Just my 2 cents here Even though i did not ...   Feb 27 2009, 01:23 AM
parag_sankla   Parag Just my 2 cents here Even though i did not...   Feb 27 2009, 11:27 AM
Aditya Pant   Parag Just my 2 cents here Even though i did no...   Feb 27 2009, 11:53 AM
oye_sonu   confusing :wacko: . jab tak koi film na ...   Feb 27 2009, 01:05 PM
Sangeet   confusing :wacko: . jab tak koi film na dekhe...   Feb 27 2009, 07:03 PM
Marcilo   Why not him....? usko bhi bolo…. He too made mov...   Feb 27 2009, 01:35 AM
oye_sonu   Marcilo bhai uper wala reply pado jo maine u...   Feb 27 2009, 01:53 AM
Marcilo   Sab log poverty pe banate hai kaya? Kitni bani ha...   Feb 27 2009, 02:32 AM
oye_sonu   Mariclo bhai isme burai kya hai. Agar main movie...   Feb 27 2009, 10:22 AM
Marcilo   From the article Sonu, you seen Village? Movie by...   Feb 27 2009, 02:46 AM
oye_sonu   Sonu, you seen Village? Movie by shyamalan? So ...   Feb 27 2009, 10:50 AM
HumTum   Yes Sonu bhai, thoda time nikaal ke dekh lijiye.. ...   Feb 27 2009, 01:56 PM
HumTum   I still love this part of our country! :wub:   Feb 27 2009, 01:57 PM
HumTum   A movie I would have recommended for foreign langu...   Feb 27 2009, 02:01 PM
HumTum   Jeans for Oscar!!!!!!...   Feb 27 2009, 07:08 PM
Marcilo   Sonu, This is what you said... I do not agree a...   Feb 27 2009, 08:29 PM
oye_sonu   Sonu, This is what you said... I do not agree ...   Feb 27 2009, 11:14 PM
Marcilo   Where did this come from into our discussion? Pl...   Feb 27 2009, 09:52 PM
oye_sonu   Where did this come from into our discussion? ...   Feb 27 2009, 11:24 PM
oye_sonu   Just a General comment not against or fav. People...   Feb 28 2009, 12:12 AM
Marcilo   Le… statement hi change karti hun tu :lol: :lo...   Feb 28 2009, 12:24 AM
oye_sonu   Bhaji......".not one " add kara tha ki ...   Feb 28 2009, 01:00 AM
Marcilo   Everyone has right of opinion but saying movies ...   Feb 28 2009, 12:30 AM
oye_sonu   Everyone has right of opinion but saying movies...   Feb 28 2009, 01:10 AM
mmuk2004   Everyone has right of opinion but saying movies...   Feb 28 2009, 01:13 AM
parag_sankla   Since I am being questioned on my stand, I would l...   Feb 28 2009, 01:25 AM
mmuk2004   Parag, Check out this much more complex analysis...   Feb 28 2009, 02:11 AM
parag_sankla   After reading this blog (mentioned above) and the ...   Feb 28 2009, 06:43 AM
mmuk2004   Parag, The key is to take everything critics say...   Feb 28 2009, 09:46 AM
oye_sonu   Parag, The key is to take everything critics sa...   Feb 28 2009, 09:52 PM
Marcilo   Who made personal attacks and ridiculous remark...   Feb 28 2009, 11:57 PM


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