Visit our other dedicated websites
Asha Bhonsle Geeta Dutt Hamara Forums Hamara Photos Kishore Kumar Mohd Rafi Nice Songs Shreya Ghoshal
Hamara Forums

Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

So Why Is Rafisaab The Greatest Singing Legend?

, Fans of Rafisab share your views & experiences

 
 Forum Rules Please read and thoroughly understand the forum rules and regulations:
> So Why Is Rafisaab The Greatest Singing Legend?, Fans of Rafisab share your views & experiences
suhana_safar
post Jul 29 2007, 06:37 AM
Post #1


Dedicated Member
Group Icon

Group: Members
Posts: 2181
Joined: 21-August 06
Member No.: 6838



With thousands of unbeliveable renditions in a career that stretches back into the mid forties to 80's, Rafisaab began his career as a playback singer in Indian Film industry that in course of time is being regarded as a landmark in HFM.

So what is fscinating about this genius and his career? What are the key featueres of his skills that even made his colleagues who were class singers in their own right look upon him as their hero/idol?. What are the things that keep people still so attached to his songs?


Over the years everything connected with the industry changed:

1. The taste and trends of the audience
2. The technolgy and nature of the recording rooms
3. The style of the actors
4. The styles of the MD’s
5. The words of the song writers
6. The promotion strategy of the music companies
7. The pay cheques
8. The competition
9. The entry of new actors and styles
10. The quality of the audience
11. The politics and power groups in the industry


and many more factors could be added to the list above.

With all the above dynamic changes, for a simple, shy, modest and a genuine down to earth person to not only excel but establish unreachabe standards in playback singing during such a long period is simply more than just an extra ordninary feat. How often we take take for granted the consistent quality of Rafisaab’ singing without giving much thought how difficult and challenging is the art of playback singing specially in the context of the above dynamic changes.

How many times do we care to fathom that extra class that he instilled in the song and thus raised the standard of both the composition and the lyrics not to mention that his voice is also associated with the success of those actors who became stars just because Rafisaab playbacked for them.

Playback singing is a precise and difficult and challenging art, and Rafisaab is rightly acknowledged as a master of this unique genre by both, the masses and the experts.

So what exactly are the attributes and characteritics of this legend of legends that makes him a class apart. What is the exclusive quality/qualities of his singing that makes him a benchmark in playback singing.?

Please share your views with concrete examples and kindly refrain discussing any other singers in this thread as this discussion is only about the one and only, Rafisaab.


I welcome all to come on board (with a positive attitude) and specially the learned and knowledgeable who know about this uniqe art and more importantly about this unique singing phenomenon, Rafisaab.


PLAYBACK SINGING STARTS AND ENDS WITH RAFISAAB. IN TERMS OF QUALITY, CONSISTENCY & VERSATILITY, RAFISAAB IS INFINITE LIGHT YEARS AHEAD OF ALL SINGERS BEFORE, DURING AND AFTER HIM.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
 
Reply to this topicStart new topic
Replies
suhana_safar
post Jul 30 2007, 04:38 AM
Post #2


Dedicated Member
Group Icon

Group: Members
Posts: 2181
Joined: 21-August 06
Member No.: 6838



Here is what Swaminatha Iyer, 78 years old who hails from Tiruchi and is part of music associations in Tiruchi, M’as as well as in West Bengal and Maharashtra has to say about Rafisaab.

(cortesey mohd rafi.com)

"During one of my stays in M’as I had stayed with SPB. While talking of true voices he said, I don’t feel like half a singer when listening to Rafi. True voice is not a tech term but many in circle use it. Perfect example would be lata, but to understand consider our own PS who within her range is superb. People who do not have such true voices can never do justice to original. They generally underplay many parts of the song or fake it with bass/superficial singing. True voices make people like Sirkazi, Nusrat Fateh Ali khan, Lata… Inimitable. However since Sirkazi and Nusrat did not have the filmy voices their “real” following is limited to their local arena.

In addition to the true voice if the singer has a very good voice then in “most” cases he/she can better songs of others. It is this combination which makes Rafi stand out among the other male singers. There are many here who seem to have mistaken notions on a good bass and also on high pitch.

I have had the fortune of listening to most singers in studio and some times without a mike, practicing with MD’s.When Lata or Rafi do, the level is so high that people hesitate to even hum. It felt silly to sing in their presence (and it feels silly when someone says his voice isn’t manly).

In RD’s tribute when SPB sang “Aaja Aaja mein hoon” or “Chaand mera dil” it sounded only sweet and lacked punch if you compare with Rafi’s original.

Yesu once told me God has been partial to Rafi. He said “god gift term anavasyamaa romba common aa ippo use aardu”.. but idu Rafi kee thaan 100% porundu”. This person could sing “as intricately as a lady without sounding thin”, “cover any mood”, “versatility odey perfect example Rafi”. Yesu said most important is the comfort level over ranges which makes you feel God has been partial to Rafi. (But Of course in Rafi’s early career (1950’s) the voice was relatively feeble).

To people exposed to Rafi’s talent, these or any amount of praise can only seem less. I just wish he was alive and you people could get a live chance to hear him. Probably you can get hold of the DD album for the Geet Gaata Chal series where the first four episodes were dedicated to Rafi. Rafi is on camera singing “O Duniya Ke Rakwaaley” and many other songs. If you see and hear the last part you will realize why SPB said “impossible”. I think particularly those people who have talked about scales w.r.t Rafi should see this album. Its a known fact in industry that Rafi ruled high pitch and there is no male singer better in switching notes so easily. There are artists who can go beyond but then they sound strained or they don’t have pleasant voices when they venture into those territories"


PLAYBACK SINGING STARTS AND ENDS WITH RAFISAAB. IN TERMS OF QUALITY, CONSISTENCY & VERSATILITY, RAFISAAB IS INFINITE LIGHT YEARS AHEAD OF ALL SINGERS BEFORE, DURING AND AFTER HIM.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

Posts in this topic
suhana_safar   So Why Is Rafisaab The Greatest Singing Legend?   Jul 29 2007, 06:37 AM
surhall   With thousands of unbeliveable renditions in a c...   Jul 29 2007, 08:13 AM
suhana_safar   you are 100 % right brother dhall Thanks broth...   Jul 29 2007, 11:29 AM
suhana_safar   Here are views of a music critic whose name I cant...   Jul 29 2007, 06:39 PM
dryunussumra   few viewes The most fundamental question: Why do ...   Jul 30 2007, 02:43 AM
suhana_safar   few viewes The most fundamental question: Why do...   Jul 30 2007, 03:41 AM
Reeth   With thousands of unbeliveable renditions in a c...   Jul 30 2007, 02:55 AM
suhana_safar   .....it is a universal truth that Rafi Sahab is ...   Jul 30 2007, 03:42 AM
suhana_safar   Here is what Swaminatha Iyer, 78 years old who ha...   Jul 30 2007, 04:38 AM
Reeth   .....it is a universal truth that Rafi Sahab is...   Jul 30 2007, 04:27 PM
suhana_safar   As you all know Roshan saab was the MD and Sahir t...   Jul 30 2007, 04:30 PM
venkat   Suhana Safar Ji, You have asked me to say somethi...   Jul 30 2007, 05:46 PM
suhana_safar   Suhana Safar Ji, You have asked me to say someth...   Jul 30 2007, 07:36 PM
nasir   It was my earnest desire to write something about ...   Jul 30 2007, 10:45 PM
Harold   Friends, I dont know what to say anymore, you...   Jul 31 2007, 12:01 AM
suhana_safar   Friends, I dont know what to say anymore, you...   Jul 31 2007, 02:00 AM
Faizel   Great Going Harihar. It gives me an immense feelin...   Jul 31 2007, 02:14 AM
suhana_safar   Great Going Harihar. It gives me an immense feeli...   Jul 31 2007, 02:17 AM
harihar   Great Going Harihar. It gives me an immense feel...   Jul 31 2007, 12:14 PM
kamalamohanty   [quote name='harihar' date='Jul 31 200...   Jul 31 2007, 01:00 PM
kamalamohanty   SAJDAH Jee, Your Article on Mohammad Rafi Saab is...   Jul 31 2007, 01:02 PM
suhana_safar   [quote name='suhana_safar' post='397075' date='Ju...   Jul 31 2007, 02:05 PM
harihar   Great Going Harihar. It gives me an immense feeli...   Jul 31 2007, 12:09 PM
SARPANCH JI   Friends this is my first post on the Rafi Forum. I...   Jul 31 2007, 04:42 AM
suhana_safar   Friends this is my first post on the Rafi Forum. ...   Jul 31 2007, 12:02 PM
SAJDAH   I missed that! :sad: Sajdah   Jul 31 2007, 06:20 AM
SAJDAH   Suhana sahab, thanks very much for initiating this...   Jul 31 2007, 06:24 AM
suhana_safar   Sajdah i have no words to describe your write up,...   Jul 31 2007, 07:01 AM
SAJDAH   Sajdah i have no words to describe your write up...   Jul 31 2007, 07:17 AM
venkat   Excellent contributions by everyone, especially Sa...   Jul 31 2007, 09:22 AM
princeali   Rafi Sahab was a PHENOMENON, the likes of which we...   Jul 31 2007, 10:37 AM
suhana_safar   Rafi Sahab was a PHENOMENON, the likes of which w...   Jul 31 2007, 11:58 AM
princeali   Its just getts better and better. Prince bhai y...   Aug 1 2007, 12:47 AM
suhana_safar   SS bhai, We are fortunate that we can interact ...   Aug 29 2007, 11:49 PM
gop   Thanks Sarpanchji and Sajdahji for sharing your fe...   Jul 31 2007, 10:49 AM
Harold   Thank you all for the great tributes on our Hero M...   Jul 31 2007, 06:47 PM
suhana_safar   Thank you all for the great tributes on our Hero ...   Aug 31 2007, 07:18 AM
humble_rafi   The word Rafi is one of the most beautiful names o...   Jul 31 2007, 10:14 PM
suhana_safar   The word Rafi is one of the most beautiful names ...   Aug 29 2007, 11:51 PM
SAJJAD   Here's what Shankar said about rafi saab:   Aug 31 2007, 03:02 AM
venkat   Here's what Shankar said about rafi saab: ...   Aug 31 2007, 07:50 AM
suhana_safar   Sajjad bhai Thanks for sharing the published fact...   Aug 31 2007, 10:29 AM
nasir   Here's what Shankar said about rafi saab: ...   Aug 31 2007, 07:09 PM
AzgarKhan   This guy had the audacity to say that "Rafi...   Sep 1 2007, 05:18 AM


Reply to this topicStart new topic
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:


 



- Lo-Fi Version | Disclaimer | HF Guidelines | Be An Angel Time is now: 10th July 2025 - 07:48 AM