Article In 'stars From Another Sky' By Manto Options

[jamalf_akbar]

Hi all,

Here is the article I promised. It appears in a book called 'Stars from another sky - The Bombay film world of the 1940's' by Saadat Hasan Manto (Translated into English by Khalid Hasan). The book is a collection of articles written by Manto between 1948 and 1954 and appeared in a book titled ' Ganjay Farishtey' and has articles on Ashok Kumar, Shyam, Nargis, Naseem and others from that era.

(I have attached the scanned images as 50% of their original size - if too small I can put the original size up)

Ummer - would you be able to use OCR on these and send me the text? (or suggest some good software that I could get!)

[jamalf_akbar]

Thanks for your comments Harjinderji. I have only read a few of Manto's works (any that I can find in English) as I can't read Urdu, but I have enjoyed what I have read so far.

[Harjinder]

Thanks for your comments Harjinderji. I have only read a few of Manto's works (any that I can find in English) as I can't read Urdu, but I have enjoyed what I have read so far.

Akbar saheb
I don't know how or where these comments fit but I have learned to read Urdu mostly to read works of ficton by writers like Manto and Rajinder Singh Bedi and to enjoy the poetry of poets like Ghalib, Iqbal, Faiz,Josh Malihabadi and many others. Problem with Urdu poetry is that Urdu poets like Ghalib and Iqbal use a language which is full of words from Farsi, Arabi, and Turki. I can enjoy some of their 'Kalam' and for the rest I have to read what I call prose tarjma of their nazms. Anyway while Urdu is a very hard language to learn it does offer poetry of the standard that is peerless. Afsane written by Manto and Bedi use lot less obscure vocabulary and are thus easier to read and thus to me, more enjoyable.Harjinder

[urzung khan]

Thanks for your comments Harjinderji. I have only read a few of Manto's works (any that I can find in English) as I can't read Urdu, but I have enjoyed what I have read so far.

Akbar saheb
I don't know how or where these comments fit but I have learned to read Urdu mostly to read works of ficton by writers like Manto and Rajinder Singh Bedi and to enjoy the poetry of poets like Ghalib, Iqbal, Faiz,Josh Malihabadi and many others. Problem with Urdu poetry is that Urdu poets like Ghalib and Iqbal use a language which is full of words from Farsi, Arabi, and Turki. I can enjoy some of their 'Kalam' and for the rest I have to read what I call prose tarjma of their nazms. Anyway while Urdu is a very hard language to learn it does offer poetry of the standard that is peerless. Afsane written by Manto and Bedi use lot less obscure vocabulary and are thus easier to read and thus to me, more enjoyable.Harjinder

Have you ever heard of Balwant Singh ? No vulgarities. He just
wrote simple realistic stories about Punjab and its people. One
of his books was ' raat chaand chor'. IIRC, this collection had
his classic ' Jagga', ... Sardar Jagjit Singh Virk. Balwant was from
Lahore and then mograted to India.
Jagga used to be online somewhere, I will check if it is still there.

urzung khan

[Harjinder]

Thanks for your comments Harjinderji. I have only read a few of Manto's works (any that I can find in English) as I can't read Urdu, but I have enjoyed what I have read so far.

Akbar saheb
I don't know how or where these comments fit but I have learned to read Urdu mostly to read works of ficton by writers like Manto and Rajinder Singh Bedi and to enjoy the poetry of poets like Ghalib, Iqbal, Faiz,Josh Malihabadi and many others. Problem with Urdu poetry is that Urdu poets like Ghalib and Iqbal use a language which is full of words from Farsi, Arabi, and Turki. I can enjoy some of their 'Kalam' and for the rest I have to read what I call prose tarjma of their nazms. Anyway while Urdu is a very hard language to learn it does offer poetry of the standard that is peerless. Afsane written by Manto and Bedi use lot less obscure vocabulary and are thus easier to read and thus to me, more enjoyable.Harjinder

Have you ever heard of Balwant Singh ? No vulgarities. He just
wrote simple realistic stories about Punjab and its people. One
of his books was ' raat chaand chor'. IIRC, this collection had
his classic ' Jagga', ... Sardar Jagjit Singh Virk. Balwant was from
Lahore and then mograted to India.
Jagga used to be online somewhere, I will check if it is still there.

urzung khan

Janab Khan Saheb
I am somewhat familiar with Balwant Singh's writings. He often contributed stories to 'Shama' (or was it' Beeswin Sadi'?) I say somewhat familiar because I cannot recall any story written by him that I have read. If you can post 'Jagga' I would be greatly interested in reading it. Does it have anything to do with the legendary 'JAGGA DAAKU'? By the way all the Urdu that I know I have learned all by myself.Political and social conditions of the times had given Urdu the status of a paraiah language in Indian Punjab. But as I was I was growing up in the 50's I was fascinated by the language and its sophistication. My father like a typical Punjabi educated person of that time was traumatized and somewhat radicalized by the events of 1947 and often was puzzled by my fascination with the language. But my interest in Urdu has persisted to this day, inspite of the antagonism towards it in our society and among some of my own family members in the older ( than my) generation. University of Chicago has some college level classes in Urdu and Farsi which I may decide to take up after my retirement in June. It is good forty plus miles from where I live. But if things work out the way I want them to I will try to further my knowledge of literary Urdu and maybe of Farsi too.Please do post the Jagga story if you come across it. Harjinder

This post has been edited by Harjinder: Jun 17 2011, 05:54 PM

[urzung khan]

Thanks for your comments Harjinderji. I have only read a few of Manto's works (any that I can find in English) as I can't read Urdu, but I have enjoyed what I have read so far.

Akbar saheb
I don't know how or where these comments fit but I have learned to read Urdu mostly to read works of ficton by writers like Manto and Rajinder Singh Bedi and to enjoy the poetry of poets like Ghalib, Iqbal, Faiz,Josh Malihabadi and many others. Problem with Urdu poetry is that Urdu poets like Ghalib and Iqbal use a language which is full of words from Farsi, Arabi, and Turki. I can enjoy some of their 'Kalam' and for the rest I have to read what I call prose tarjma of their nazms. Anyway while Urdu is a very hard language to learn it does offer poetry of the standard that is peerless. Afsane written by Manto and Bedi use lot less obscure vocabulary and are thus easier to read and thus to me, more enjoyable.Harjinder

Have you ever heard of Balwant Singh ? No vulgarities. He just
wrote simple realistic stories about Punjab and its people. One
of his books was ' raat chaand chor'. IIRC, this collection had
his classic ' Jagga', ... Sardar Jagjit Singh Virk. Balwant was from
Lahore and then mograted to India.
Jagga used to be online somewhere, I will check if it is still there.

urzung khan

Janab Khan Saheb
I am somewhat familiar with Balwant Singh's writings. He often contributed stories to 'Shama' (or was it' Beeswin Sadi'?) I say somewhat familiar because I cannot recall any story written by him that I have read. If you can post 'Jagga' I would be greatly interested in reading it. Does it have anything thing to do with the legendary 'JAGGA DAAKU'? By the way all the Urdu that I know I have learned all by myself.Political and social conditions of the times had given Urdu the status of a paraiah language in Indian Punjab. But as I was I was growing up in the 50's I was fascinated by the language and its sophistication. My father like a typical Punjabi educated person of that time was traumatized and somewhat radicalized by the events of 1947 and often was puzzled by my fascination with the language. But my interest in Urdu has persisted to this day, inspite of the antagonism towards it in our society and among some of my own family members in the older ( than my) generation. University of Chicago has some college level classes in Urdu and Farsi which I may decide to take up after my retirement in June. It is good forty plus miles from where I live. But if things work out the way I want them to I will try to further my knowledge of literary Urdu and maybe of Farsi too.Please do post the Jagga story if you come across it. Harjinder

It is more likely to be Beeswin Sadi. We will get this topic out of thos forum.
At the moment I can't recall the URL where it used to be online. But be sure
that I shell get it and revert.

urzung khan