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shivani
post Feb 10 2006, 10:43 PM
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I was watching a program , which suggests that Apes evolved into Homo Sapiens, not only because of adaption, but also that the process was driven by some genes inside us. We remembered what we have to become, and that memory helped us become human.

But the process is not yet over. We are still evolving.
Most of the information available is in french though sad1.gif.

Any other info on same??

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post Mar 4 2006, 11:09 PM
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1. What does everyone feel about evolution being directed? Do you agree or disagree with that? Especially Shivani, you haven't posted your reaction to my conch-shell analogy.


We slowly ascended from lower life forms to what we are today, by a process of "natural selection" from randomly occurring changes. Each change had to prove its worth by surviving the continual battle for existence, being against being, species against species and this process has gone on for many millions of years.
I agree to evolution, but the evolutions to me seems rather well designed.


One thought often nags me.. there are other creatures from the same era, who did not evolve as we did, and they did go through same situation. It can be said that their geographical location was different, and so they did not have to go through the exact same situation that we had to. I still cant wondering if the choices we made were just one of the probabilities or there was indeed a predecided path we followed. Other animals do not have as evolved brains we humans, but they have survived alongwith us under similar circumstances. Humans became bipedal, learnt agriculture and creation of tools, developed language and various other forms of expression. They learnt to build and make efficient use of available resources. All this learning is needed for survival or not, is questionable.

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Hominoids, (the superfamily of primates that contains apes and humans) evolved during the Miocene epoch (24 million to 5 million years ago). Large ape species had originated in Africa by 23 or 22 million years ago. Among the oldest known hominoids is a group of apes known as Proconsul. Species of Proconsul had features that suggest a close link to the common ancestor of apes and humans.


The two had a common ancestor. The two could not have survived far apart from each other. Yet one group drifted far apart from all other species of the era. Adaptation to the environment is a capability of Mammal Brain, and Apes qualify for that as well. The modification of Instinctive behaviour is as well controlled by the Mammal brain, rather than the human brain. Human brain was no different from a chimp's to start with. Their intelligence level was same, yet chimps did not learn that better ways of survival that their cousins discovered/devised. They could also imitate and we could have two similar species living on the planet. But that did not happen. Homo Sapiens came to be the odd one out. The organ that got affected most in their case, their Brain made all the difference, and the process is still going on. Whereas rest all species followed a different pattern, and seem to have more or less stopped where they were. Why did humans came where they are!!


PS : I know I need to read and understand lot more before I can comeup with some real questions. Please bear with my confusion and learning process. I am sure, I would go back and forth in the whole discussion a lot.
PPS : Bibhas, I did not get tiem to go through the link yet. Will read and get back to you with questions. You are not off the hook on that one as yet : ).
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shivani   Homo Futuris   Feb 10 2006, 10:43 PM
Mandrake   Will post some thoughts tomorrow.... time to sleep...   Feb 10 2006, 10:58 PM
shivani   :( neend ud jaye teri chain se sone wale   Feb 10 2006, 11:01 PM
bibhas   I was watching a program , which suggests that Ap...   Feb 11 2006, 10:46 AM
Mandrake   Bibhas comes out of Hibernation. Time for me to go...   Feb 11 2006, 02:02 PM
shivani   :look: :fight: :( .. rather take me along as w...   Feb 11 2006, 07:21 PM
bibhas   tum donon hibernation mein gaye to mera yahaan aan...   Feb 12 2006, 07:08 AM
shivani   mmm I too am skeptic about it.. but then it coul...   Feb 16 2006, 05:14 PM
bibhas   mmm I too am skeptic about it.. but then it cou...   Feb 19 2006, 12:08 AM
Mandrake   Since Bibhas is a biologist by profession, I would...   Feb 16 2006, 06:18 PM
bibhas   Since Bibhas is a biologist by profession, I woul...   Feb 19 2006, 12:55 AM
shivani   MJ .. you are biased.. I cant trust you. Please po...   Feb 16 2006, 06:46 PM
Mandrake   1) Biased? For believing in something strongly aft...   Feb 16 2006, 06:57 PM
bibhas   1) Biased? For believing in something strongly af...   Feb 19 2006, 02:18 AM
shivani   sigh! mahanautank. :spank: sharaft se links ...   Feb 16 2006, 07:03 PM
anurag   Bibhas, MJ, so did the evolution take place or not...   Feb 19 2006, 04:37 AM
bibhas   Bibhas, MJ, so did the evolution take place or no...   Feb 19 2006, 05:46 AM
bibhas   Bibhas, MJ, so did the evolution take place or no...   Feb 20 2006, 11:32 PM
Mandrake   Bibhas, I haven't gone through the lamba chaud...   Feb 19 2006, 02:29 PM
bibhas   I am not a doubter of people's abilities and ...   Feb 20 2006, 01:12 AM
bibhas   Bibhas, I haven't gone through the lamba chau...   Feb 20 2006, 01:42 AM
shivani   Bibhas Thanks a lot. I understand this is a text ...   Feb 19 2006, 05:36 PM
bibhas   Bibhas Thanks a lot. I understand this is a text ...   Feb 20 2006, 02:22 AM
Mandrake   Sorry to stick to my guns till proved wrong. But m...   Feb 19 2006, 06:05 PM
shivani   hmmmm You think human beings are mentally evolvin...   Feb 19 2006, 06:12 PM
Mandrake   Yes, backwards :( I treat Mahabharat as a true fa...   Feb 19 2006, 06:20 PM
shivani   ummm In your opinion the beings during Mahabharata...   Feb 19 2006, 06:38 PM
bibhas   Folks, I would like to know the following: 1. What...   Feb 20 2006, 02:52 AM
shivani   Lalitha I am very sorry to hear about the acciden...   Feb 27 2006, 06:40 PM
dimps   :unsure: A discussion which I read elsewhere, th...   Feb 20 2006, 12:47 PM
dimps   :blink: I tried to post the link, but somehow it...   Feb 20 2006, 12:54 PM
Mandrake   Interesting observation Dimps. A few points quickl...   Feb 20 2006, 12:57 PM
dimps   Hi Mandrakeji (Suhas) try the link now - I edited...   Feb 20 2006, 01:09 PM
Mandrake   Thanx Lalitha - the link is working now. Truly fas...   Feb 20 2006, 01:15 PM
dimps   Ya Suhas - will try asmuch as I can.. I did menti...   Feb 20 2006, 01:28 PM
Nimii   dimps ab bhi koi improvement nahi hai kya :(( You...   Feb 20 2006, 03:52 PM
dimps   Ya Nimmi - did that also - went to Shankara Nethra...   Feb 20 2006, 04:19 PM
Nimii   Sigh! Dimps ye kya hogaya :headbang: N :((   Feb 20 2006, 04:31 PM
shivani   We slowly ascended from lower life forms to what...   Mar 4 2006, 11:09 PM
shivani   Some more on what I found on how brain functions...   Mar 4 2006, 11:39 PM
dimps   Interesting observation Dimps. 2) Balaram and Kr...   Mar 17 2006, 11:47 AM
sri   2) Balaram and Krishna were both avatars of Vish...   Mar 17 2006, 12:03 PM
Mandrake   Yes Lalitha, we have always read that Balaram was ...   Mar 17 2006, 12:06 PM
vivekpm   But Balaram often is doing things that do not fal...   Mar 17 2006, 12:26 PM


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