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shivani
post Feb 10 2006, 10:43 PM
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I was watching a program , which suggests that Apes evolved into Homo Sapiens, not only because of adaption, but also that the process was driven by some genes inside us. We remembered what we have to become, and that memory helped us become human.

But the process is not yet over. We are still evolving.
Most of the information available is in french though sad1.gif.

Any other info on same??

MJ ???
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post Feb 16 2006, 06:18 PM
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Since Bibhas is a biologist by profession, I wouldn't dare to discuss things on an unscientific basis with him. Hence I was resisting from putting my thoughts here.

But, on second thoughts, I think it would be interesting to put them here anyway wink2.gif

I have tangled with Bibhas earlier on this issue too, where I stated that I do not believe in the evolution theory.
Almost an year later, nothing has changed in my belief on that.

And about the point that our genes 'remember' what we are supposed to be only reinforces my pet theory of genetic time-locks. That our genes have encoded data that will be available to us only when we cross a certain number of biological years.

Besides, the Human Genome Project has thrown up some mind-boggling surprises that make is take a solid second-take on what we had thought/assumed so far, only complicates matter further...

That inspite of the so-called 'evolution' we still use only 10% of our brain should really start us thinking. Why, as per the rules/laws/whatever of evolution, the unused 90% didn't shrink into nothingness? Why does the brain have no sensation like other parts of the body?

No, I don't think we understand ourselves yet. So the Homo Futuris will certainly happen, but with a major surprise embedded in there: Homo Futuris will surprisingly be Homo 'Pastis' wink2.gif, the man we've all known before - the kind of people that existed as mentioned in the epics - those who could harness mental powers... those who realized that nature had to be protected, as it was a key element....

Self - belief is the most potent force.
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post Feb 19 2006, 12:55 AM
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QUOTE(Mandrake @ Feb 16 2006, 07:48 AM) *

Since Bibhas is a biologist by profession, I wouldn't dare to discuss things on an unscientific basis with him. Hence I was resisting from putting my thoughts here.


MJ, aap jaise "ashtavadhani" ke munh se aise shabd achche nahin lagte. huh.gif

QUOTE(Mandrake @ Feb 16 2006, 07:48 AM) *

I have tangled with Bibhas earlier on this issue too, where I stated that I do not believe in the evolution theory.
Almost an year later, nothing has changed in my belief on that.

Wow! Has it really been that long? Chaliye, let me hope the 2006 edition will be more successful.

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And about the point that our genes 'remember' what we are supposed to be only reinforces my pet theory of genetic time-locks. That our genes have encoded data that will be available to us only when we cross a certain number of biological years.

Would like to hear more about that theory sometime, we did touch upon it last year.

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That inspite of the so-called 'evolution' we still use only 10% of our brain should really start us thinking. Why, as per the rules/laws/whatever of evolution, the unused 90% didn't shrink into nothingness?

IMO this is one of those sayings that's not to be taken literally. The following is the way I interpret it based on my knowledge of neuroscience. The 10% use doesn't mean we are only using one part of the brain and not the rest. How do we use our brain? For every little act of the brain, we make connections between nerve cells called "synapses". The more synapses we associate with a particular event or task, the better we remember it or perform it. What we think of as "100%" refers to the potential number of synapses that can be formed in a human brain. We use varying amounts of that potential depending on the needs of our everyday life and the stages of our life. We discard old unused synapses and we continue to make new ones as our needs change. What does it mean to be using 100% of your brain? Simply using up all of the potential I am talking about. Do we really want to do that? Because that comes with its own onus of having to maintain all of the information and ability which needs additional resources. With the amount we use now, the brain already consumes a majority of the nutritional input of our body.
Think of it as your 100GB hard drive which is full with music you've been downloading from HF. And then Unni uploads a Gigabyte of music you're dying to download. What are your choices? What would you do (assuming you don't have the ability to add more gigs)? Wouldn't you rather have all that memory as "potential" space to download the music you love and only use part of your hard disk and fill it with music that you actually listen to, rather than fill it up with music that's melodious but you don't listen to for whatever the reason might be? If you do choose to do this, would you simply eliminate all the unused space on your HD?

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Why does the brain have no sensation like other parts of the body?

Au Contraire, Brain has all the sensation and there would be no sense of sensation without the brain! When Bhabhiji holds your hand on valentine's day, how do you know that ? The sensory nerve terminals on your palm are sending electrical impulses to your brain which interprets them, decodes them and then tells you via return impulses through the motor nerve that controls your hand muscles to return the gesture by pressing on her hand gently. If your brain did not exist, then there would be nothing but a few microamperes running through your body! I know I know, that's too much biological mumbo-jumbo, give me some real proof, right? Try this sometime, go into absolute darkness, put on as many blindfolds on your eyes as you'd like and spend a couple of hours like that. Pre-arrange with someone to turn on the lights at some random instant of time during that period. You know that the lights are on the instant it happens! How do you know that? I'll tell you how that happens after you try it and are convinced that you knew when the lights went on with all the blindfolds on your eyes.

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No, I don't think we understand ourselves yet.

I couldn't agree more with you on that, my friend!

-Bibhas

A science that does not deliver us to the portals of metaphysics is a failed science and a religion that does not embrace physics is not grounded in reality.
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shivani   Homo Futuris   Feb 10 2006, 10:43 PM
Mandrake   Will post some thoughts tomorrow.... time to sleep...   Feb 10 2006, 10:58 PM
shivani   :( neend ud jaye teri chain se sone wale   Feb 10 2006, 11:01 PM
bibhas   I was watching a program , which suggests that Ap...   Feb 11 2006, 10:46 AM
Mandrake   Bibhas comes out of Hibernation. Time for me to go...   Feb 11 2006, 02:02 PM
shivani   :look: :fight: :( .. rather take me along as w...   Feb 11 2006, 07:21 PM
bibhas   tum donon hibernation mein gaye to mera yahaan aan...   Feb 12 2006, 07:08 AM
shivani   mmm I too am skeptic about it.. but then it coul...   Feb 16 2006, 05:14 PM
bibhas   mmm I too am skeptic about it.. but then it cou...   Feb 19 2006, 12:08 AM
Mandrake   Since Bibhas is a biologist by profession, I would...   Feb 16 2006, 06:18 PM
bibhas   Since Bibhas is a biologist by profession, I woul...   Feb 19 2006, 12:55 AM
shivani   MJ .. you are biased.. I cant trust you. Please po...   Feb 16 2006, 06:46 PM
Mandrake   1) Biased? For believing in something strongly aft...   Feb 16 2006, 06:57 PM
bibhas   1) Biased? For believing in something strongly af...   Feb 19 2006, 02:18 AM
shivani   sigh! mahanautank. :spank: sharaft se links ...   Feb 16 2006, 07:03 PM
anurag   Bibhas, MJ, so did the evolution take place or not...   Feb 19 2006, 04:37 AM
bibhas   Bibhas, MJ, so did the evolution take place or no...   Feb 19 2006, 05:46 AM
bibhas   Bibhas, MJ, so did the evolution take place or no...   Feb 20 2006, 11:32 PM
Mandrake   Bibhas, I haven't gone through the lamba chaud...   Feb 19 2006, 02:29 PM
bibhas   I am not a doubter of people's abilities and ...   Feb 20 2006, 01:12 AM
bibhas   Bibhas, I haven't gone through the lamba chau...   Feb 20 2006, 01:42 AM
shivani   Bibhas Thanks a lot. I understand this is a text ...   Feb 19 2006, 05:36 PM
bibhas   Bibhas Thanks a lot. I understand this is a text ...   Feb 20 2006, 02:22 AM
Mandrake   Sorry to stick to my guns till proved wrong. But m...   Feb 19 2006, 06:05 PM
shivani   hmmmm You think human beings are mentally evolvin...   Feb 19 2006, 06:12 PM
Mandrake   Yes, backwards :( I treat Mahabharat as a true fa...   Feb 19 2006, 06:20 PM
shivani   ummm In your opinion the beings during Mahabharata...   Feb 19 2006, 06:38 PM
bibhas   Folks, I would like to know the following: 1. What...   Feb 20 2006, 02:52 AM
shivani   Lalitha I am very sorry to hear about the acciden...   Feb 27 2006, 06:40 PM
dimps   :unsure: A discussion which I read elsewhere, th...   Feb 20 2006, 12:47 PM
dimps   :blink: I tried to post the link, but somehow it...   Feb 20 2006, 12:54 PM
Mandrake   Interesting observation Dimps. A few points quickl...   Feb 20 2006, 12:57 PM
dimps   Hi Mandrakeji (Suhas) try the link now - I edited...   Feb 20 2006, 01:09 PM
Mandrake   Thanx Lalitha - the link is working now. Truly fas...   Feb 20 2006, 01:15 PM
dimps   Ya Suhas - will try asmuch as I can.. I did menti...   Feb 20 2006, 01:28 PM
Nimii   dimps ab bhi koi improvement nahi hai kya :(( You...   Feb 20 2006, 03:52 PM
dimps   Ya Nimmi - did that also - went to Shankara Nethra...   Feb 20 2006, 04:19 PM
Nimii   Sigh! Dimps ye kya hogaya :headbang: N :((   Feb 20 2006, 04:31 PM
shivani   We slowly ascended from lower life forms to what...   Mar 4 2006, 11:09 PM
shivani   Some more on what I found on how brain functions...   Mar 4 2006, 11:39 PM
dimps   Interesting observation Dimps. 2) Balaram and Kr...   Mar 17 2006, 11:47 AM
sri   2) Balaram and Krishna were both avatars of Vish...   Mar 17 2006, 12:03 PM
Mandrake   Yes Lalitha, we have always read that Balaram was ...   Mar 17 2006, 12:06 PM
vivekpm   But Balaram often is doing things that do not fal...   Mar 17 2006, 12:26 PM


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