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10th ke baad kar sakti hai na? Phir kyun sighing and roying? ohmy.gif
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I had been searching for a few songs from Raat Ke Rahi for a while. Aaj ek kind friend ne mujhe bheja. God bless these sweet unselfish friends. bow.gif

Here is one.

Music – Jaidev
Lyrics – Vishwamitra Aadil
Year – 1959



Not even one of the best in the film and yet the song is so catchy and enjoyable. Jaidevsaab rocks!!!! clap2.gif
Will ul the other 3 songs I got one by one.

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QUOTE(priya @ May 3 2006, 07:24 PM) *

I had been searching for a few songs from Raat Ke Rahi for a while. Aaj ek kind friend ne mujhe bheja. God bless these sweet unselfish friends. bow.gif

Here is one.

Music – Jaidev
Lyrics – Vishwamitra Aadil
Year – 1959



Not even one of the best in the film and yet the song is so catchy and enjoyable. Jaidevsaab rocks!!!! clap2.gif
Will ul the other 3 songs I got one by one.

kaun hai ye dayaloooo mitra(kind friend)----

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QUOTE(priya @ May 3 2006, 06:54 AM) *

I had been searching for a few songs from Raat Ke Rahi for a while. Aaj ek kind friend ne mujhe bheja. God bless these sweet unselfish friends. bow.gif

Here is one.

Music – Jaidev
Lyrics – Vishwamitra Aadil
Year – 1959



Not even one of the best in the film and yet the song is so catchy and enjoyable. Jaidevsaab rocks!!!! clap2.gif
Will ul the other 3 songs I got one by one.

I don't know all the songs in this film, but the one that I have is one
among my favorite Asha songs in that period. "Tu kya samjhe tu kya
jaane o deewane". Superb song, excellently sung.
This song that you just uploaded is not as nice (tune-wise) as the
one I mentioned. But it has a lot of energy and rhythm. Singing of
course is on-par. Thanx for uploading this song. Cannot wait to
hear the other songs.

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QUOTE(mohd2004 @ May 2 2006, 09:25 PM) *

QUOTE(priya @ May 2 2006, 08:50 PM) *

MD: Naushad

Lyrics: Prem Saxena

Year: 1957






Thanks Priya for this rare song from Bada Bhai (1957).

I think the composer is Shaukat Dehalvi Nashaad & not Naushad. Eventhough the source 1 from CMC says Naushad, I agree with source 2 , source 3 & Source 4 given below mentions composer as Nashaad:

Source 1 for Bada Bhai says Naushad:
http://www.searchamovie.com/fb/BADABHAI(1957).htm
BADA BHAI (1957)
AJIT, KAMINI KAUSHAL, AMEETA,
TUNTUN, NAZIR HUSSAIN, KUMKUM
Produced By: K.AMAR NATH
Directed By: K.AMAR NATH
Music By: NAUSHAD
FAMILY DRAMA ***


Source 2 earthmusic.com for Bada Bhai says S.D. Nashaaad and not Naushad:
http://www.earthmusic.net/search.php?searc...movie=Bada+Bhai
Chori chori dil ka lagaana buri baat hai-Asha Bhonsle &Talat Mehmood -Shaukat Dehlvi Nashad -Bada Bhai

Source 3 RMIM- Contributor Srinivas Ganti says " NASHAAD not Naushad:

http://s94437128.onlinehome.us/isb/cisb/3306.isb
ITRANS SONG # 3306; Created on Jan 26, 2004
%
% From: Srinivas Ganti (gantisri@hotmail.com)
% Date: 2002-11-09 17:02:13 PST
%
\startsong
\stitle{chorii chorii dil kaa lagaana burii baat hai}%
\film{Badaa Bhaai}%
\year{1957}%
\starring{}%
\singer{Asha, Talat}%
\music{Nashad}%
\lyrics{Prem Saxena}%
%
% Contributor:Srinivas Ganti
% Transliterator:Srinivas Ganti
% Date:9 Nov,2002


Source 4- from Saleem-Ul-Haq's book:
Bada Bhai (1957)- Music : Nashaad and not Naushad.


Mohd.

Mohammad is absolutely correct. The music is by Naashad, not Naushad.
I just checked with the Geetkosh. The song did not seem very Naushadesque.
This film has only Asha as the female voice.
Thanx for the correction Mohammad.
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QUOTE
I don't know all the songs in this film, but the one that I have is one
among my favorite Asha songs in that period. "Tu kya samjhe tu kya
jaane o deewane". Superb song, excellently sung.
This song that you just uploaded is not as nice (tune-wise) as the
one I mentioned. But it has a lot of energy and rhythm. Singing of
course is on-par. Thanx for uploading this song. Cannot wait to
hear the other songs.


Yes, as I said this is not the best. The best are tu kya samjhe (I think the track I got now is better than the RMIM one where vol fluctuates) and aa bhi ja bewafa with humming by a male singer. My friend said Rafi but the VN book says Aaga Sarvar. Who is he and what does the Geetkosh say? U must have that song too na--it was part of the collection but without the opening few lines raat ki tanhai...

The 4th song is again not a great one but enjoyable.
That is the diff with the classy mds. Even their avg songs are hummable.
Also I notice so many of Asha's older songs are with obscure mds and so have the most minimal orchestras. Makes a diff when u have a reasonable amount of instrumental interlude.

U never gave me Ur opinion of radha ke pyaare.

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QUOTE(priya @ May 3 2006, 08:05 AM) *

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I don't know all the songs in this film, but the one that I have is one
among my favorite Asha songs in that period. "Tu kya samjhe tu kya
jaane o deewane". Superb song, excellently sung.
This song that you just uploaded is not as nice (tune-wise) as the
one I mentioned. But it has a lot of energy and rhythm. Singing of
course is on-par. Thanx for uploading this song. Cannot wait to
hear the other songs.


Yes, as I said this is not the best. The best are tu kya samjhe (I think the track I got now is better than the RMIM one where vol fluctuates) and aa bhi ja bewafa with humming by a male singer. My friend said Rafi but the VN book says Aaga Sarvar. Who is he and what does the Geetkosh say? U must have that song too na--it was part of the collection but without the opening few lines raat ki tanhai...

The 4th song is again not a great one but enjoyable.
That is the diff with the classy mds. Even their avg songs are hummable.
Also I notice so many of Asha's older songs are with obscure mds and so have the most minimal orchestras. Makes a diff when u have a reasonable amount of instrumental interlude.

U never gave me Ur opinion of radha ke pyaare.

Here is the funny thing about "Raat ke raahi". The Geetkosh says that the music
is by Bipin-Babul. I had always assumed that it was a Jaidev film. The "Tu kya
samjhe" song has the panache and class to be a Jaidev composition. But now I
am confused. Does anybody have the VCD/video/DVD of this film to check?
(BTW, the Geetkosh does not mention the male singer's name for the "Aa bhi
ja bewafa" song).

About the Asha/Naushad combination, it is really not really a great one. Given
that she is a good singer and he is a good composer, one can only expect a couple
of good songs between them. I was never a big fan of the songs in "Amar", but
the picturization of "Ik baat kahooN mere piya" really captures the rhythm of the
song and enhances it and I ended up liking it a lot more (rest of the film is strange).
"Radha ke pyaare" does not do much for me.
The Asha/Naushad controversy was played out in the magazines. The story goes
that he said to Raju Bharatan about Asha "Uski awaaz me bazaarpan hai" which
Raju Bharatan promptly reported. Soon after, Naushad wrote back to the magazine
saying that he actually said "Meyaarpan", NOT "bazaarpan". I somehow doubt
that. The words are quite different and not easily confused.
Truth is that Asha's voice did evolve throughout the 60s from each year to the next.
Any hint of immaturity in the voice or in the style was ironed out, replaced with
a much more robust quality and a lot of depth. Lata's voice in the 50s was already
seasoned (she had a very short immature phase in her career) and it suited
compositions by people like Naushad perfectly.
While I find the comment in poor taste, I can see how Naushad would find Asha unsuited
for his songs. And as Asha's voice evolved, so did his opinion. But it is hard to
retract the previous comments.

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QUOTE(sangeetbhakt @ May 3 2006, 09:53 PM) *

Here is the funny thing about "Raat ke raahi". The Geetkosh says that the music
is by Bipin-Babul. I had always assumed that it was a Jaidev film. The "Tu kya
samjhe" song has the panache and class to be a Jaidev composition. But now I
am confused. Does anybody have the VCD/video/DVD of this film to check?
(BTW, the Geetkosh does not mention the male singer's name for the "Aa bhi
ja bewafa" song).


Ok. Checked the VN book. According to it donon ne music diya hai.
Tu kya samjhe is Jaidev as is poubara poubara.
The duet and the song dayen bayen are credited to Bipin Babul.
Were they his assistants?

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About the Asha/Naushad combination, it is really not really a great one. Given
that she is a good singer and he is a good composer, one can only expect a couple
of good songs between them. I was never a big fan of the songs in "Amar", but
the picturization of "Ik baat kahooN mere piya" really captures the rhythm of the
song and enhances it and I ended up liking it a lot more (rest of the film is strange).
"Radha ke pyaare" does not do much for me.
The Asha/Naushad controversy was played out in the magazines. The story goes
that he said to Raju Bharatan about Asha "Uski awaaz me bazaarpan hai" which
Raju Bharatan promptly reported. Soon after, Naushad wrote back to the magazine
saying that he actually said "Meyaarpan", NOT "bazaarpan". I somehow doubt
that. The words are quite different and not easily confused.
Truth is that Asha's voice did evolve throughout the 60s from each year to the next.
Any hint of immaturity in the voice or in the style was ironed out, replaced with
a much more robust quality and a lot of depth. Lata's voice in the 50s was already
seasoned (she had a very short immature phase in her career) and it suited
compositions by people like Naushad perfectly.
While I find the comment in poor taste, I can see how Naushad would find Asha unsuited
for his songs. And as Asha's voice evolved, so did his opinion. But it is hard to
retract the previous comments.


What is meyarpan? unsure.gif

I remember seeing a tv interview of Asha where she talks of getting the national award for Umrao Jaan and a very famous and venerable MD who has known her from the very beginning said I did not know U sang this well and how that stung and hurt her deeply. The bitterness was obvious. From the context I felt it was Naushad. Fits the time frame of his change of comments too.

I feel more than immaturity it is a matter of confidence. She sounds timid in very many of her earlier songs and it is very noticeable in contrast to her innovative energetic and enthusiastic singing of late 50s onwards.

I too like ek baat kahoon though the style of singing is quaint. I am not really fond of radha ke pyaare. Kind of flat song.

Waise Naushad has wonderful songs for Shamshad Begum and in a way I prefer his simpler music of the 50s compared to the heavily ornamented classics he is famous for. Had Asha been in the business a decade earlier he might have hjad tunes for her.

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Nahin to hum hain na. Will put all the Asha songs I ever laid hands on and send U. laugh.gif

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Thanx Priya.
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