Ye Raat Bheegi Bheegi, geeta,s version |
Ye Raat Bheegi Bheegi, geeta,s version |
bobby mudgel |
May 12 2005, 10:46 PM
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ambar kumaar n geeta dutt singing ye raat bheegi bheegi -chori chori--a very rare song
among my most prized possessions--are-words-that i ve never spoken
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unni |
May 12 2005, 11:18 PM
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Bobby:
Of course I could be wrong. But it doesn't sound like Geeta-ji. Anybody else thinks the same. Mahesh-ji? Bappa-da? If you stop trying to make sense of it all, you'll be less confused. Reality is an illusion.
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maheshks |
May 13 2005, 04:18 AM
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QUOTE(unni @ May 12 2005, 11:18 PM) Bobby: Of course I could be wrong. But it doesn't sound like Geeta-ji. Anybody else thinks the same. Mahesh-ji? Bappa-da? Ha ha ha ha Unnibhai it appears reverse..... read this article on version recordings during old times. The female singer is Geeta Dutt but look who is male singer? Heard the song many times after downloading....listen to the last lines of the song....only there i could pick up the voice of geetaji. WAVES given that they are versions. Saigal's were on the Hindustan - New Theatres combined label. Were these the first of their kind? I wouldn’t venture to make such a claim. In the early days of version records some deceit was inevitable. M K Thiagaraja Bhagavathar was unique as a singing star of the Tamil films in the late'30s and early '40s. When he acted in and sang in 'Chintamani' (1937), he was contracted to Odeon records, which was run by A.V.Meiyappa Chettiar. When MKT, as he was popularly known, appeared reluctant to accept the payment they offered, AVM promptly had Carnatic vidwan, Turaiyur Rajagopala Sharma, a member of their own staff, sing a couple of the songs. The labels simply said Songs from 'Chintamani', the similarity in the two voices being an advantage. The Bombay-based National Gramaphone Manufacturing Company Limited released version recordings sporadically in the '30s and 40s. Producer director Raj Khosla who later became a top producer director and is known as one today, reprised Mukesh's hits from Majrooh-Naushad's 'Andaz' (1949) viz. 'Jhoom jhoom ke' and 'Ham aaj kaheen' for the company on the Young India label. In the '50s, Gramco was indulging in a practice that could either be termed ignoring the old and promotion of new talent. Various film songs were being resung by upcoming artistes (so the company thought them to be, but I can't recall a single one making the grade) and were issued on Columbia (or sometimes on the cheaper) Twin label. An example is GE 21033,which features 'Seen men' by Tarun and Supriti and 'Jali jo' by Gouri Kedar (both from 'Tarana', 1951, Anil Biswas/Prem Dhawan, Kaif Irfani). Who bought these records? Possibly those in small towns, where they couldn't tell these voices from those of Lata & Talat. The company showed scant regard for established singers when it had them sing with tinny, inadequate musical accompaniment. When Geeta Roy Dutt sang 'Gore gore hathon pe' and 'Chalee Radherani' from 'Parineeta' (1953) on Columbia, she was definitely more popular than the upcoming Asha and Manna Dey, the original singers. In 1956, she was made to sing on the cheaper Twin label 'Panchhi Banoon' and 'Yeh raat bhigi bhigi' (the latter with Bhushan) from the film 'Chori Chori'. Only die-hard fans of the artistes could have bought these records. Other famous singers too were given the same treatment. In the early 60s, Gramco started a venture that proved abortive. Called 'Kal ke Sitare', it reaired the songs of the last two decades with orchestra by V. Balsara and uninspired singing by a number of artistes, including Ambar Kumar, Surita, Meena, Rajendra, Shefali Rani, Tarun Kumar, Ratna Sharma, Roshan Kumar, Monica Anand, Inderjeet, Vijaya, Indu, etc. The only one to become a star a decade later, was Rajendra Mehta, the truly cultured amongst the contemporary ghazalkars. The hits from films like 'Punarmilan', 'Jhoola', 'Manmohan', 'Kanya', 'Poonji', 'Khandan', 'Bandhan', 'Jageerdar' did not remain popular because of singers who could not do justice to the originals. to Bobbyji for uploading the rarest of the rares. When you find peace within yourself, you become the kind of person who can live at peace with others
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deewani |
May 13 2005, 05:16 AM
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Thank you very much for such an informative article excerpt. Only in such a great forum would I have learned any of this.
Doston, Apna Tau Yeh Imaan Hai Jo Bhi Jitna Saath De, Ehsaan Hai Umr Ka Rishta Jodne Waale Apni Nazar Mein Deewane Hai Thanks for the memories HF. Bye Bye. deewani is "permanently away" |
Anil4 |
May 13 2005, 06:08 AM
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My initial reaction on listening to this song - if this is Geeta Dutt then I must be Mohammed Rafi. However after reading Mahesh's contribution I am not sure. Having listened to it several times must say it doesnt sound like Geeta Dutt.
I second Johny's comments about the tremendous value of this forum to us geet and sangeet lovers and acknowlege the contributions of people like Unni and Mahesh etc who keep on sharing not only their song collections but more importantly information which so few people have. Anil |
unni |
May 13 2005, 07:38 AM
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In the past, Bobby has pulled out from his hat several very rare tracks. So I wouldn't question his listing of the singers. Just that it did not sound like Geeta-ji. Maybe it had to do with the age of the track. With the additional input provided by Mahesh, I guess we should be left with no doubt. As Mahesh wrote, it was only in the last part of the song did it sound the voice as we know it.
By the way, did anyone think the male voice bears more similarity to Talat-sahab's than Manna Dey's. Maybe I'm just going deaf! If you stop trying to make sense of it all, you'll be less confused. Reality is an illusion.
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bobby mudgel |
May 13 2005, 08:20 AM
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hi friends---i also ve panchi banoo udti phirun neel gagan by geeta dutt--but now i m thinking about u/ling it--karoon ya na karoon kahin u/l karne se har koi ye na kahe main mohd rafi hoon(kidding) also ve songs of parinita by geeta
among my most prized possessions--are-words-that i ve never spoken
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mahesh |
May 13 2005, 08:29 AM
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thanks bobby for this very rare song.
the male singer is ''bhushan'' as mentioned in hfgk. other version songs sung by geetaji are- 1]-babul[1950]-milte hi aankhein dil hua[with hemant kumar], 2]-parineeta[53]-chali radhe rani, 3]-parineeta[53]-gore gore hathon mein, 4]-chori chori[56]-panchi babun udti phiroon, and the uploaded song with bhushan. regards, mahesh |
mahesh |
May 13 2005, 08:32 AM
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QUOTE(bobby mudgel @ May 13 2005, 08:20 AM) hi friends---i also ve panchi banoo udti phirun neel gagan by geeta dutt--but now i m thinking about u/ling it--karoon ya na karoon kahin u/l karne se har koi ye na kahe main mohd rafi hoon(kidding) also ve songs of parinita by geeta bobbybhai, neki aur poochh poochh, please upload panchi banoon and parineeta songs. eagerly waiting for the songs, thanks a lot, mahesh |
dharmvir |
May 13 2005, 08:46 AM
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QUOTE(bobby mudgel @ May 13 2005, 08:20 AM) hi friends---i also ve panchi banoo udti phirun neel gagan by geeta dutt--but now i m thinking about u/ling it--karoon ya na karoon kahin u/l karne se har koi ye na kahe main mohd rafi hoon(kidding) also ve songs of parinita by geeta Dear Friends, Bobby bhai bilkul theek hai. Ye Geeta Dutt Aur Bhushan hain Record No.FT 21008. This record also has Panchi Banoo Udti Phiroon by geeta dutt. But these are version recordings and is clearly mentioned in Hamraaz's vol.51-60. The original song was by Manna day and Lata only. Personally I believe in only original recordings but as I have come across these version recordings it must be Bhushan and Geeta dutt. There seems to be slight differnce in speed of recording and (on slow side) and I think that is the reason that it does not seem geeta dutt. Thanks |
alybaba |
May 13 2005, 12:42 PM
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QUOTE(dharmvir @ May 13 2005, 08:46 AM) QUOTE(bobby mudgel @ May 13 2005, 08:20 AM) hi friends---i also ve panchi banoo udti phirun neel gagan by geeta dutt--but now i m thinking about u/ling it--karoon ya na karoon kahin u/l karne se har koi ye na kahe main mohd rafi hoon(kidding) also ve songs of parinita by geeta Dear Friends, Bobby bhai bilkul theek hai. Ye Geeta Dutt Aur Bhushan hain Record No.FT 21008. This record also has Panchi Banoo Udti Phiroon by geeta dutt. But these are version recordings and is clearly mentioned in Hamraaz's vol.51-60. The original song was by Manna day and Lata only. Personally I believe in only original recordings but as I have come across these version recordings it must be Bhushan and Geeta dutt. There seems to be slight differnce in speed of recording and (on slow side) and I think that is the reason that it does not seem geeta dutt. Thanks Dharamvir, Do you have the better recording of this version song? |
vikram |
May 13 2005, 01:39 PM
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Thanks Bobby Bhai Once again.....
First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.
- M. K. Gandhi |
Anil4 |
May 13 2005, 02:52 PM
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Arre Bhaiya Bobby upload karo! Kehne wale to kehte hi rahenge. Unhe kaun rokega!
Anil |
bchatterjee |
May 13 2005, 09:22 PM
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QUOTE(dharmvir @ May 13 2005, 09:46 AM) QUOTE(bobby mudgel @ May 13 2005, 08:20 AM) hi friends---i also ve panchi banoo udti phirun neel gagan by geeta dutt--but now i m thinking about u/ling it--karoon ya na karoon kahin u/l karne se har koi ye na kahe main mohd rafi hoon(kidding) also ve songs of parinita by geeta Dear Friends, Bobby bhai bilkul theek hai. Ye Geeta Dutt Aur Bhushan hain Record No.FT 21008. This record also has Panchi Banoo Udti Phiroon by geeta dutt. But these are version recordings and is clearly mentioned in Hamraaz's vol.51-60. The original song was by Manna day and Lata only. Personally I believe in only original recordings but as I have come across these version recordings it must be Bhushan and Geeta dutt. There seems to be slight differnce in speed of recording and (on slow side) and I think that is the reason that it does not seem geeta dutt. Thanks Dharamvir ji, It seems some of the songs you uploaded are from cassettes. Can you walk me through the process. I have some rare songs on cassetttes too. Thanks- Bappa |
bchatterjee |
May 13 2005, 09:27 PM
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