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kistin
post Jun 29 2005, 11:36 PM
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QUOTE(stt2 @ Jun 28 2005, 10:14 PM)
kistin, you have done a great work. I enjoyed these old songs very much.
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SST2, happy to hear that you enjoyed the songs. Thanks for the reply.
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post Jun 29 2005, 11:50 PM
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QUOTE(bchatterjee @ Jun 28 2005, 10:35 PM)
QUOTE(stt2 @ Jun 29 2005, 01:44 AM)
kistin, you have done a great work. I enjoyed these old songs very much.
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Kistin Saab,
Would you mind cleaning up some Geeta Dutt songs. i can upload them once more.

It would be a great service to Geeta Dutt fans like me!!!
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Bchatterjee bhai,

I'm not pretentious in this work, its just a humble try. It would be my pleasure If I could help you and other Geeta Dutt fans.
Is it appropriate if I start a thread "Cleaned Geeta Songs" in Geeta Dutt forum?
Please let me know.

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post Jun 29 2005, 11:55 PM
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QUOTE(kistin @ Jun 28 2005, 01:56 PM)
PrinceAli Brother, thanks for your determination and hence your help.

I offer you two new processed versions of the song below, hoping that at least one of them is suitable for you. Please tell me which one is better, so that I would delete the other in order to save the valuable space of the server.

Please note that in order to cope with the existence of troublesome echo, this time I introduced very litle noise on purpose, so do not get surprised!

By the way, can you please tell me the meanings of "JI" , "JEE" and "BHAI" ?

Aisa To Kabhi Mumkin Hi Nahin - Gunah Aur Kanoon (1970), by Mohammad Rafi

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Kistin ji, both the versions were fine so it is up to you which one you want to delete.

Sincere Thanks for your efforts !!

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PrinceAli Bhai,

I'm very happy that you liked the cleaned song.

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post Jul 2 2005, 10:12 AM
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Kistin, I am a new member and even though I have not been able to download any of the cleaned songs yet, but I too have attempted to digitize and clean songs on my PC and the results have been quite good.. I mainly add Echo and Reverb to the songs and ofcourse do a bit of noise reduction, all of this through the Nero Wave Editor and recently through Sound Forge. I would love to know, what all processes you are using to clean the songs.

I can't wait to download your songs, but when I try, there is an error that says only participating members can d/l. Hopefully, this message would also make me a participating member.
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post Jul 3 2005, 02:44 AM
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QUOTE(LEGENDRAFI @ Jul 2 2005, 07:42 AM)
Kistin, I am a new member and even though I have not been able to download any of the cleaned songs yet, but I too have attempted to digitize and clean songs on my PC and the results have been quite good.. I mainly add Echo and Reverb to the songs and ofcourse do a bit of noise reduction, all of this through the Nero Wave Editor and recently through Sound Forge. I would love to know, what all processes you are using to clean the songs.

I can't wait to download your songs, but when I try, there is an error that says only participating members can d/l. Hopefully, this message would also make me a participating member.
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Hello LEGENDRAFI,
I do not add any effects to old songs, in order to keep their originality. Instead, I clean only, as I have explained in some messages back.
As for your membership, in order to download some songs, you must be advanced to be a "trusted member".
Please read the forum's regulations for more information. Good luck!

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post Jul 7 2005, 02:13 AM
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Duniya Ki Nazar Hai Bhuri - Agra Road (1957) , By Mohammad Rafi & Geeta Dutt

PLEASE NOTE:

I'm very sorry that sometime back, I had uploaded the "intermediate version" of this song inadvertently! ... because saved last changes to another file !!! angry2.gif
I apologize those people who had downloaded it already.

Now I deleted the wrong version from this thread and uploaded the final version to Geeta Dutt forum under the thread "Cleaned Geeta Songs"

For those who are interested in (forgive me) here is the link

http://www.hamaraforums.com/index.php?show...ndpost&p=112089

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post Jul 13 2005, 02:57 AM
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hey kistin bro,

highly obliged by ur efforts.. great job can you please tell me from where i can get these softwares.. i have a few damaged songs.. so i could repair them..
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post Aug 23 2005, 03:56 AM
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QUOTE(haha @ Jul 13 2005, 12:27 AM)
hey kistin bro,

highly obliged by ur efforts.. great job can you please tell me from where i can get these softwares.. i have a few damaged songs.. so i could repair them..
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Haha brother, sorry for late reply, as I was in a long vacation.

Thank you very much for nice words. You can use Audacity program which is freeware and can be downloaded from download.com. I wish you manage your damaged songs.




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post Aug 23 2005, 04:21 AM
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I realize that many people in this forum are also processing the old songs. Please do share your cleaned songs in this thread if it keeps its originality.

Here is a song that I have cleaned.

Tu Kahan Yeh Bata - Tere Ghar Ke Samne
by Mohammad Rafi


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post Aug 23 2005, 05:33 AM
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Pardon my asking. But many of the songs in this thread are available in original on CD. Why go through the tedious process of cleaning them? doh.gif

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post Aug 23 2005, 11:16 PM
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QUOTE(unni @ Aug 23 2005, 03:03 AM)
Pardon my asking. But many of the songs in this thread are available in original on CD. Why go through the tedious process of cleaning them? doh.gif
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Unni Bhai,
I do not upload all of the songs I cleaned. Most of the songs uploaded were requested in this forum. The reason for these requests was that the songs were considerably noisy. Do you mean that they do not need cleaning?

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post Aug 23 2005, 11:38 PM
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I do not upload all of the songs I cleaned. Most of the songs uploaded were requested in this forum. The reason for these requests was that the songs were considerably noisy. Do you mean that they do not need cleaning?

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Nothing important, but was just wondering why bother cleaning up tracks like "Jo Wada Kiya" (TAJ MAHAL) or "Tu Kahaan Yeh Bataa" (TERE GHAR KE SAAMNE), since these are easily available on CD. Don't mind me, I was just thinking aloud. Sure, there would be rare old recordings that need cleaning, and some of our members help us with them as you do.

Please carry on! Sorry for the interruption!

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post Aug 24 2005, 02:34 AM
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I do not upload all of the songs I cleaned. Most of the songs uploaded were requested in this forum. The reason for these requests was that the songs were considerably noisy. Do you mean that they do not need cleaning?

Best Regards,
Kistin


Nothing important, but was just wondering why bother cleaning up tracks like "Jo Wada Kiya" (TAJ MAHAL) or "Tu Kahaan Yeh Bataa" (TERE GHAR KE SAAMNE), since these are easily available on CD. Don't mind me, I was just thinking aloud. Sure, there would be rare old recordings that need cleaning, and some of our members help us with them as you do.

Please carry on! Sorry for the interruption!
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MANY MANY GEETA SONGS NEED CLEANING!!!!!
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post Aug 24 2005, 03:52 AM
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Unni Bhai, no problem. It is my honor that you welcome to this thread.

Bappa Bhai, I'm back from the long vacation. I hope that we can manage to clean some Geeta Dutt songs soon.

With best regards,
Kistin

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post Aug 24 2005, 07:26 PM
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Hello Kistin,
I have been following the threads you've started on ' cleaned songs '. First of all, good luck with your project and we all will help you with supplying the songs when the time & opportunity permit.
However, having spent 15 odd years as a recording engineer I just have to comment on your project and the kind of music you are handling. There is nothing wrong in ' cleaning ' up the songs the way you want. But in my view, when you try to enhance the sound, the songs should sound better than the original if at all. However, for one, Its practically impossible to remove the distortion that is inherent in the original master tapes ( or the very first recording they made ) of 95% of the old music from India without hurting the actual music quality itself. Two, most of the old recordings are done with a primitive equipment ( again, no offense to anybody but that's a fact ) so the songs cannot sound any better than what they were. Plus, with the kind of rudimentary software you are using, any discernible ear can tell that the process only compromised the original sound quality to a greater degree. Consider this as a constructive criticism, but I honestly do not think those songs you put out on HF sound any better than the original and they certainly do not sound ' cleaned '. All I can hear are the same distortion with a whole lot of ' envelop ' around it making it sound flat, as if the musicians are singing from a closet. My humble suggestion to you, dearest friend, is that instead of spending hours on ' cleaning ' the songs by merely applying the software tools, you should listen to the music first using a pair of headphones,
compare the channel balance and distribute the better sound of the two, to the other one. You'll be surprised how much better a sound you can achieve by merely selecting a better channel of the two in an original mono recording and applying it for both left and right channels. Trust me, I have been there before and some of the songs are better off left the way they are, because they are only going to sound worse if you mess with them.
Of course, if its a transfer from LP record, you should be able to pick most of the
pops and clips out of the sound spectrum using software like Cool Edit or Adobe Audition. Once again, I used the term, ' most ' because its impossible to take all those anomalies out even from an LP transfer. Ask any audio engineer and I bet he'll agree. But, why mess with an LP sound when it actually makes you feel warm and fuzzy?
Yours sincerely,
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