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Posted by: vivekpm Sep 26 2006, 06:45 PM
http://spaceblog.xprize.org/
Cheers,
Posted by: Nimii Sep 27 2006, 10:39 AM
Vivekah!
thanks! Glad I went back in the pages.. else I would have missed this thread.
Posted by: vivekpm Sep 27 2006, 12:57 PM
On a related note:
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SAN JOSE, California -- It's not hard to sell attendees of the Space 2006 conference on permanent human settlements in space.
Where those settlements should be, however, is another question. Various scientists make their case for Mars, the moon or habitats orbiting the Earth. While the question is not a pressing one for most people, for the futurists mapping the humans path to space, the destination makes all the difference in the world.
For Al Globus, senior research associate for human factors research and technology at NASA Ames Research Center, the most salient issue is one that most people take for granted on Earth: gravity. In low gravity, muscles atrophy and bones loose calcium and become brittle. If people start having children in an off-Earth settlement, those children -- being adapted to the moon's one-sixth gravity or Mars' three-eighths gravity -- may not be able to function on Earth, Globus argues.
"If you are a genius, you can never go to Harvard or Princeton," Globus says. "If you are a great violinist, you will never be able to play the concert halls of Earth."
That's a deal breaker, in Globus' opinion. The space researcher instead argues that rotating space stations that can produce near-Earth gravity would be the best bet for long-term human inhabitants. These stations could produce more energy because certain orbits could bring them more sunshine than is possible if they were land-based. And the stations would be hours away, rather than three days for the moon or, at best, six months for Mars. The proximity to Earth makes tourism a possibility and makes resupplying the stations a snap.
On Thursday, Robert Bigelow, a Las Vegas real estate and financial businessman that started Bigelow Aerospace in 1999, announced that he would put a space station in high orbit by 2012 to spur demand for a destination in space. The Sundancer station, as Bigelow dubs it, would consist of two habitats connected to provide 510 cubic meters of living space, about as much real estate as a small home.
The businessman also underscores that the mantra of real estate still applies: Location, location, location.
"From a business perspective, (Earth orbit) is a revenue-generating location, and from a science standpoint, it's a must," he says.
However, creating a large enough space station to spin for artificial gravity is difficult enough that even the risk-taking businessman is not considering it. His scientists have instead drawn up plans for a module that can be created in space and planted on the moon to become the first part of a base.
The moon has gained adherents as the best initial settlement because the goal is attainable and scientists can use a moon base to study the long-term effects of low-gravity living on humans, said Klaus P. Heiss, executive director of High Frontier, a group of scientists and enthusiasts focused on http://www.jamestownonthemoon.org/.
"The goal should be something that we can do in 10 years with the existing budget, but at the same time, it needs to be significant," Heiss says.
Heiss argues that a long-term moon settlement could develop the lion's share of the techniques necessary to survive for a long time on another planet, such as Mars, a planet with its own supporters. The Mars Society -- whose president, Robert Zubrin, literally wrote the book on the least expensive way to create a Mars base -- has been simulating the working conditions on Mars at http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,71728-0.html. Another proponent, the http://www.marshome.org/, has created plans for building a base from mainly local resources. Glass, plastics and steel could all be made on Mars and having those resources makes Mars the best location for a long-term settlement, says Bruce Mackenzie, a co-founder of the project.
"Being farther away will help build self-reliance and spur innovation," Mackenzie says.
The distance, at least six months in travel time and two years between trips, should be seen as a plus, he adds, because it minimizes the impact of changes in policies and budget cuts. And with U.S. space policy far from settled, such a distance could be welcome.
http://www.wired.com/news/technology/space/0,71838-0.html?tw=wn_index_10
Cheers,
Posted by: Nimii Sep 27 2006, 01:18 PM
That would be great! We could get rid off some of the population from here too ![laugh.gif](style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Vaise like I told you earlier .. dharti ka bhoj toda moon pe jaayega and still it would lighter out there.
Sigh! Wishful thinking indeed for now. Wonder how they would make it feasible. The atmosphere, and other environmental surroundings have to be adaptable for we homo sapiens
Posted by: vivekpm Sep 27 2006, 01:55 PM
Yeah wishful thinking indeed fr now!!!
Hopefully someday someone will have "Moon" as his/her birthplace ![biggrin.gif](style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Cheers,
Posted by: Nimii Sep 27 2006, 03:30 PM
Sigh! I wonder how the astrology will work out then
Where is Mandrake
our expert commentator ?
Posted by: Nimii Sep 27 2006, 07:08 PM
Are you sure the woman is really praying for the next 7 lives for the same man
he he he!! Now that would be wishful thinking! I guess it is vice versa too ![laugh.gif](style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
he he he! First let me get my whatever for this life ![mad.gif](style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)
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When e-booking arrives, they'll open different threads on the net
You bet man! This is too good for words
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ps: Vivek is gonna glare at both of us for taking this thread to some other level of discussion!
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Vivek are you listening?
Posted by: Mandrake Sep 27 2006, 07:27 PM
Badley ki is bhaavna ko man se nikaal do Raju - yeh woh khel hai jisey khelnewaale khatm ho jaate hain (now go into a hiss) khel khatm nahi hota....
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Amitabh in Kasme-Vaade
Posted by: vivekpm Sep 27 2006, 07:33 PM
QUOTE(Nimii @ Sep 27 2006, 07:08 PM)
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ps: Vivek is gonna glare at both of us for taking this thread to some other level of discussion!
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Vivek are you listening?
Kya se kya ho gaya, mere thread ka...
I better not listen. As a bachelor, MJ's 7 life theory sounds scary
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Cheers,
Posted by: Mandrake Sep 27 2006, 07:40 PM
Vivek ki fatkaar lagtey hi Mandrake ki hansi kho jaati hai....![sad1.gif](style_emoticons/default/sad1.gif)
Like it happens in all other threads, M gathers up his depressed cape, picks up his quashed hat, and slowly shuffles to the top of the page.
With a heavy heart he presses the 'view new Posts' button with his left foot, and exits the thread forever....
The background score changes to 'Who will call me a friend..."
Posted by: vivekpm Sep 27 2006, 07:44 PM
Nahin nahin MJ... I will definitely call you a friend. Specially for forewarning wrt 7-janams
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Cheers,
Posted by: Nimii Sep 27 2006, 08:02 PM
QUOTE(Mandrake @ Sep 27 2006, 07:31 PM)
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Nimz whichhh book are you talking about? I have planned to write a book on every new topic ever since I joined HF
Maybe I should start a new book - My Days With HF
Alternative Titles:
1. In The Line of HFire
2. A Matter of HFonour
3. HF-readom At Midnight
4. Ceeti of Joy
5. Mandrake in HFland
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7.
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Great topics to cover! Even I cant remember man, the book you were supposed to publish etc.! So many things preoccupied my mind for the past few months na, it is like your hard disk that crashed
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sab kuchh mitt gaya
Posted by: Nimii Sep 27 2006, 08:04 PM
QUOTE(vivekpm @ Sep 27 2006, 07:33 PM)
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QUOTE(Nimii @ Sep 27 2006, 07:08 PM)
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ps: Vivek is gonna glare at both of us for taking this thread to some other level of discussion!
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Vivek are you listening?
Kya se kya ho gaya, mere thread ka...
I better not listen. As a bachelor, MJ's 7 life theory sounds scary
Cheers,
No worries Vivek let me bring your thread back to original status
What if we all move to moon. What are the basic requisites we need to sustain there, apart from atmosphere and environment. The pros and cons have to be looked into. The transportation between the two celestial bodies, all this would it be feasible?
N
Posted by: vivekpm Sep 27 2006, 09:26 PM
QUOTE(Nimii @ Sep 27 2006, 08:04 PM)
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No worries Vivek let me bring your thread back to original status
No worries at all... the topic itself is in lighter vein
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. MJ to sach main thread chhod kar chale gaye
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QUOTE(Nimii @ Sep 27 2006, 08:04 PM)
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What if we all move to moon. What are the basic requisites we need to sustain there, apart from atmosphere and environment. The pros and cons have to be looked into. The transportation between the two celestial bodies, all this would it be feasible?
N
If you read Ansari's blog, I think the most basic thing we need to figure out is maintaining our hygiene
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Cheers,
Posted by: Nimii Sep 27 2006, 11:13 PM
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MJ to sach main thread chhod kar chale gaye
Aisa kiya to I will not talk to him!
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Chee chee bachhon jaise behaviour
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very bad!
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maintaining our hygiene biggrin.gif
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now that is a million $ suggestion(instead of a question)! Would we be able to do that
Posted by: Reeth Sep 28 2006, 01:49 AM
QUOTE(Mandrake @ Sep 27 2006, 05:08 PM)
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Suddenly, there is a puff of white smoke... and the Magisssian appphears!!! (please use the correct tones)
You are right!! The moonlings will have a different time altogether... the girls will have karva chauth - and they will look at the earth through the chhalni
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Songs will have dharti-mama and chanda-ma instead of dharti-maa and chanda-mama...
heroes will tell heroines that they look as beautiful as the earth on a full-earth day..
chanda aur chandni will be replaced with 'earth and satellites'...
moonlings will aspire to build rockets to go to the earth...
Americans will try to be the first to land on earth...
Shankar will have earth in his jataa....
lovers will bask in the soft blue earthlight...
Rishi Kapoor will sing 'dharti mera dil, space-station ho tum, dharti se bhi door, space-station kahaan'
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...and a lot more things will happen
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LOL
QUOTE(Mandrake @ Sep 27 2006, 07:04 PM)
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Nimii, tum bhi na
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Of course men do things for their wives!!! they stand on the other side of the chhalni so that the wives can see them
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(It doesn't matter whose wife sees whose husband
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Then, they are supposed to be the earthly incarnations of the supreme being - jussssst for their wives! Haven't you heard of 'pati-parmeshwar?
Have you ever heard of bhai-parmeshwar, or pita-parmeshwar or beta-parmeshwar, or dost-parmeshwar?
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Plus, they give the women a spiritual insight into future lives!! Aise-hi nahi women want the same husbands for the next SEVEN lives!!! (This is called advance-booking. The process is still a little rural-ised, hence women still go and tie threads around banyan trees. When e-booking arrives, they'll open different threads on the net
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QUOTE(Mandrake @ Sep 27 2006, 07:40 PM)
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Vivek ki fatkaar lagtey hi Mandrake ki hansi kho jaati hai....
![sad1.gif](style_emoticons/default/sad1.gif)
Like it happens in all other threads, M gathers up his depressed cape, picks up his quashed hat, and slowly shuffles to the top of the page.
With a heavy heart he presses the 'view new Posts' button with his left foot, and exits the thread forever....
The background score changes to 'Who will call me a friend..."
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LOL
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LOL
Posted by: Reeth Sep 28 2006, 01:54 AM
QUOTE(Mandrake @ Sep 27 2006, 07:31 PM)
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Nimz whichhh book are you talking about? I have planned to write a book on every new topic ever since I joined HF
![smile1.gif](style_emoticons/default/smile1.gif)
Maybe I should start a new book - My Days With HF
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Alternative Titles:
1. In The Line of HFire
2. A Matter of HFonour
3. HF-readom At Midnight
4. Ceeti of Joy
5. Mandrake in HFland
6.
7.
.
.
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Ceeti of Joy
Posted by: usrafian Sep 28 2006, 03:02 PM
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What if we all move to moon. What are the basic requisites we need to sustain there, apart from atmosphere and environment. The pros and cons have to be looked into. The transportation between the two celestial bodies, all this would it be feasible?
N
First of all, Will I get connectivity with HF from moon ? if yes, then nothing else is more important.
Transportation (on the moon only) won't be a problem there, ... one jump will cover atleast 60 feet distance.
If we apply same logic, transportation between celestial bodies would be 60 times cheaper.
Good-Effect : Exploaration in hyper-space would be easy.
Bad-Effect : Bandits would run away for-ever into space (like our Mandrake Bhau', runs away from thread)
Biggest benefit would be TATA to 'Green House Effect'. Sub Kucch cool-cool.
Rest, socchho-socchho.
USR
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